Some dramatic black and whites

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Some really nice shots you have here!

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Beautiful work.

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Beautiful photos, thanks for sharing.

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Some truly excellent photos in that set! The first 2 are really great.

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Excellent series.

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great set, very nice PP.

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A very nice set of photos
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and I find these tones well suited for the context - for me the brownish sepia gives a timeless feeling.

If you were after more dramatic appearance, I think a cooler, more neutral black tone would have been a better match. But the appearance would have been very much different.

PS. Have you tried the bw-conversion of Capture1? I do most of my stuff with it, only minimal (or sometimes quite aggressive) pp elsewhere (photoshop, ACDsee, some other programs). For me the C1 gives enough parameters to adjust the tonality within the grayscale and color - graytone match in the photo and in the outcome (like sepia-toning).

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Very nice; like others have said, the first two in particular are excellent.  The second is the standout for me.

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The fourth is my favourite.

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Jouko wrote:

and I find these tones well suited for the context - for me the brownish sepia gives a timeless feeling.

If you were after more dramatic appearance, I think a cooler, more neutral black tone would have been a better match. But the appearance would have been very much different.

PS. Have you tried the bw-conversion of Capture1? I do most of my stuff with it, only minimal (or sometimes quite aggressive) pp elsewhere (photoshop, ACDsee, some other programs). For me the C1 gives enough parameters to adjust the tonality within the grayscale and color - graytone match in the photo and in the outcome (like sepia-toning).

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Thanks Jouko,

Yes. I tried the b/w conversion within Capture1. Which is by the way my favorite raw convertor for Olympus. The b/w conversion is very flexible and useful.
I'm still learning Capture1. I just bought it a month ago after using it as a trial for a month.
NIK Silver Efex has a lot of presets which can give you a sense of direction on which you can experiment further and adjust them to your own taste. This gives you a good starting point.
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Thank you,

That's the beauty of this forum. Negative and positive cc can be a great help for learning and expanding your photographic and PP skills. It makes you think and sometimes look different at your own work.

As long as people behave in a civilized manner it can give you much help.

Thank you all.

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Harold66 wrote:

Hello Gompie

I think that the images would actually be a little bit stronger if you were to tone down a bit ( not remove it all , just reduce it) the sepia effect which is not suited to all the pics anyway

Just my opinion

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Thanks Harold,

I'm going to give it a try. Could you please tell me which ones aren't suited for sepia?
Maybe a quick reply in a few words on when to use sepia and when not?
For example, people, landscape or photos with a lot of contrast or not.
Based on the subject or based on the type of photo.

Thanks!

Ruud

Hello Ruud

Thank you for the reply. First, I want to say that there is no " absolute rule " about when you to use sepia or not , or even how much toning should there be. It is ALWAYS the photographer choice

also keep in mind that people who are responding to this thread are viewing images on computer that may be calibrated differently so they do not necessarily see the same level of toning or contrast

Secondly if you were to present these images together ( like in a gallery for instance) you are better off having a consistent tone across the series even if individually some images in the series may not "need " the toning ( I hope I am being clear)

with all of that in mind I would give you my opinion. I think image EIGHT ( and also 5 to a lesser extent) is in a completely different mood than the others. It is a funny shot and a keeper but in my mind , not going with the others and not needing the sepia tone

and by the way , you have several good images ( 1, 2 , 4 , 6) but number one is my favorite

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Some very nice images, love the processing.

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I like 2, 4, and 7.

What did you use for PP?

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I like 2, 4, and 7.

What did you use for PP?

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I used Capture one Pro for converting the RAW files and then used a photoshop plugin called NIK silver Efex for the B/W conversion.
NIK has several presets which you can use as a good starting point.
From there it's all up to your own imagination.

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Harold66 wrote:

Gompie wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Hello Gompie

I think that the images would actually be a little bit stronger if you were to tone down a bit ( not remove it all , just reduce it) the sepia effect which is not suited to all the pics anyway

Just my opinion

Harold

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Thanks Harold,

I'm going to give it a try. Could you please tell me which ones aren't suited for sepia?
Maybe a quick reply in a few words on when to use sepia and when not?
For example, people, landscape or photos with a lot of contrast or not.
Based on the subject or based on the type of photo.

Thanks!

Ruud

Hello Ruud

Thank you for the reply. First, I want to say that there is no " absolute rule " about when you to use sepia or not , or even how much toning should there be. It is ALWAYS the photographer choice

also keep in mind that people who are responding to this thread are viewing images on computer that may be calibrated differently so they do not necessarily see the same level of toning or contrast

Secondly if you were to present these images together ( like in a gallery for instance) you are better off having a consistent tone across the series even if individually some images in the series may not "need " the toning ( I hope I am being clear)

with all of that in mind I would give you my opinion. I think image EIGHT ( and also 5 to a lesser extent) is in a completely different mood than the others. It is a funny shot and a keeper but in my mind , not going with the others and not needing the sepia tone

and by the way , you have several good images ( 1, 2 , 4 , 6) but number one is my favorite

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Thanks Harold,

Your explanation is very clear. I see what you mean about image 8.
Thank you.

Ruud

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Nice B&W shots. I need to do more of those.

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Have you noticed the presets of styles-tools? There are multiple bw-and other presets already. And you can always save your own, when you are satisfied with the result.

You can even save import presets for a camera type for whatever output you want - I have set Noise to low and clarity bit up for EM1. Usually no need to touch those settings afterwards.

PS. This does not mean, that forget NIK... More tools in the box is always a good thing.

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Till I saw the pictures. And they are very good. The first two and the last frames are excellent. Thank you for sharing these.

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