FROM CES: Kodak PixPro S-1 MFT camera and lenses in April 2014

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AussieMFT
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FROM CES: Kodak PixPro S-1 MFT camera and lenses in April 2014
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Re: FROM CES: Kodak PixPro S-1 MFT camera and lenses in April 2014
In reply to AussieMFT, Jan 8, 2014

Not really a micro four thirds mount.

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I believe it is a MFT camera...
In reply to Acrill, Jan 9, 2014

Read the whole article and see the picture (of a guy holding the camera).

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Not really a micro four thirds mount.

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Re: FROM CES: Kodak PixPro S-1 MFT camera and lenses in April 2014
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AussieMFT wrote:

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news

CES 2014: Kodak S-1 compact system camera to debut in ‘April’
Read more at http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/540332/ces-2014-kodak-s-1-compact-system-camera-to-debut-in-april#5LeVxCqKIsihB2aJ.99

About freakin' time.

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Re: I believe it is a MFT camera...
In reply to AussieMFT, Jan 9, 2014

Some quick text, already bed time long time ago here.

It was announced a year ago already.

If you google it you'll find lots of pictures of it. Like this:

http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Kodak-S1-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera-1.jpg

Seams m43 alright. There is one picture on the net of the mount and it is very m43 looking I think.

http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Kodak-S1-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera-2.jpg

Also I found that JK Imaging/Kodak has joined the M43 group. There was a press release from Oly about that.

Seams like a Oly PL5 concept. Sony sensor is said to be mounted in it, could be good if they buy premium ones from Sony.

Here is a picture with it and a Oly lens, so seams m43.
http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Kodak-S1-mirrorless-interchangeable-lens-camera-4.jpg

These pictures have been on the net for a while but from what I can see the new picture of the spokesperson that is in the above linked article, holds the same camera:

https://default.secure.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/11134/00000321b/9577/JKimaging1050350.low.jpg

And if you read the article, they will release three lenses, the standard kit zoom, the tele zoom and a fixed of 400 mm (800 mm in 35 mm terms). The last one seams interresting!

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I'll be interested in that 400mm
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if it's any good.

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Re: I'll be interested in that 400mm
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Art_P wrote:

if it's any good.

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it will brob. be a 400mm mirror lens F11 ....

But hopefully something better.

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Hardly a mirror lens
In reply to stinelise, Jan 9, 2014

it will prob. be a 400mm mirror lens F11 ....

But hopefully something better.

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it's a very long f6.3 lens

http://ces.cnet.com/2300-35292_1-10019346-11.html

Actually looks roughly the same length as my Aetna Super Coligon 400/6.3 but a tad slimmer.

Why would I want another 400/6.3?  Well, if it is AF and sharper than the Aetna, I would be tempted, but if it's MF, or not particularly sharp, I wouldn't be gaining anything.

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Re: FROM CES: Kodak PixPro S-1 MFT camera and lenses in April 2014
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Acrill wrote:

Not really a micro four thirds mount.

You're probably thinking of Sakar. They're the joke that produced that Polaroid-labeled Nikon 1 ripoff and called it Micro Four Thirds (which was actually neither). Nikon sued them.

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Re: I'll be interested in that 400mm
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Art_P wrote:

if it's any good.

It looks a lot like the 400mm f6.3 Spiratone lens sold in the back of the Photo magazines back in the 1970's. It was pretty inexpensive and I often was tempted to order one because it was pretty cheap. Maybe they found an old one and knocked it off.

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According to DPR's news story the S-1 has a 16mp BSI-CMOS sensor. Very interesting if that's the case (would be the largest BSI sensor yet), but think it's most likely that it's a typo.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/09/jk-imaging-updates-kodak-line-with-superzooms-and-smart-lenses?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

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Another page I saw says it's a Sony made sensor.

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Steen Bay wrote:

According to DPR's news story the S-1 has a 16mp BSI-CMOS sensor. Very interesting if that's the case (would be the largest BSI sensor yet), but think it's most likely that it's a typo.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/09/jk-imaging-updates-kodak-line-with-superzooms-and-smart-lenses?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

Shame on me, but I have no clue about BSI. What does it mean?

Can it be bull-sh*t-incredible?

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Re: BSI-CMOS sensor?
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s_grins wrote:

Steen Bay wrote:

According to DPR's news story the S-1 has a 16mp BSI-CMOS sensor. Very interesting if that's the case (would be the largest BSI sensor yet), but think it's most likely that it's a typo.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/09/jk-imaging-updates-kodak-line-with-superzooms-and-smart-lenses?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

Shame on me, but I have no clue about BSI. What does it mean?

Can it be bull-sh*t-incredible?

I think it refers to "backside illuminated" which means that all the "connections" to the photo sites are on the backside of the sensor and so there is more space for the photo sites themselves. This should result in a higher image quality.

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Yes, I was also curious about that. It is a said to be a Sony sensor in the Kodak. Sony made the RX100 mkII to have the first to my knowledge BSI 1 inch sensor. This would mean if it is correct that they now can make them even larger to M43 size.

Now, if the BSI tech did make the RX100 mk II better than the mkI is very debated. Some say yes, some say no, since it seams that the claimed noise gain is not found due to the mkII having an ISO scale that is less sensitive than the mk I. So at the same ISO the mkII picks a slower shutter speed, but it does have lower noise on a higher ISO setting than mkI. But to get the same shutter speeds you need to bump the ISO on the mkII. I only have the mkI so I haven't been able to test myself.

Another interresting item in the new Kodak lineup is the 400 mm/6,3 lens. Has anyone found out if it has AF?

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I doubt that it will have AF. Somewhere in the Press Release in MFT Rumors they mention "A spotting scope lens". If it is that one, it will be only AF

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doesn't look to be a modern design w lots of exotic elements... just a straight forward 'spy glass'.

But if it's AF, sharp and cheap, it should sell well.

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TheEngineer wrote:

s_grins wrote:

Steen Bay wrote:

According to DPR's news story the S-1 has a 16mp BSI-CMOS sensor. Very interesting if that's the case (would be the largest BSI sensor yet), but think it's most likely that it's a typo.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/09/jk-imaging-updates-kodak-line-with-superzooms-and-smart-lenses?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

Shame on me, but I have no clue about BSI. What does it mean?

Can it be bull-sh*t-incredible?

I think it refers to "backside illuminated" which means that all the "connections" to the photo sites are on the backside of the sensor and so there is more space for the photo sites themselves. This should result in a higher image quality.

Thank you, bro. Now I know what BSI stands for. Still, I have a problem with illumination that actually is something else.

Cheers

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