best printers for 10x14 prints?

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best printers for 10x14 prints?
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I'm looking for a printer that can do at least 10x14 prints (25cmx35cm). I'm leaning towards Canon printers, I read some things about HP printers that really put me off. Epson also seems to have many quality printers, but Canon seems more geared towards wireless printing. (I don't mean WiFi, I mean not having to attach a computer in the first place. Canon printers support many kinds of media, usb sticks and memory cards.)

If you know a great printer that can do 8x11" (A4) prints but no bigger, let me know, I might want to look into those as well.

I value the ability to print directly from media (usb, sd, cf) in addition to faithful color reproduction and borderless printing. I know Canon inks are not the cheapest, so feel free to suggest a printer with cheaper inks if you think it's better.

I'm looking for a photo-only printer, so if it prints everything but text documents perfectly, that's fine by me. Of course, if it can also print text documents well, that's a plus. Scanner functionality is also a plus, but not necessary.

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Re: best printers for 11x14 prints?
In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

Actually, I would only like recommendations for printers that can do prints up to at least 11x14.

I keep reading bad reviews on the Canon printers too... Everything from expensive ink and nozzle problems to color reproduction not being faithful unless you use the provided Canon software (people complaining that despite calibrated ICC profiles printing from Adobe software produced wrong colors, but Canon software produced right colors? I found that strange.)

And

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PRO-100-Professional-Inkjet-Printer/product-reviews/B0095F5BCS/ (see 2 star reviews, then one)

What is this about having to install Canon software for the printer to work? I don't want a printer that can't print or can't print correctly unless I use the provided software.

Then there are threads like this: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51710729

It seems impossible to find a printer, regardless of price or brand, that doesn't have almost as many negative reviews as positive ones.

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In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

So, is it your plan to NEVER use your printer with a computer? The only software that has to be installed is the printer driver. With my Canon Pixma Pro-100 there are other programs and utilities that can be installed, but they aren't mandatory. Some of them are very useful, others I installed and eventually removed from the computer.

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In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

canonagain123 wrote:

Actually, I would only like recommendations for printers that can do prints up to at least 11x14.

I keep reading bad reviews on the Canon printers too... Everything from expensive ink and nozzle problems to color reproduction not being faithful unless you use the provided Canon software (people complaining that despite calibrated ICC profiles printing from Adobe software produced wrong colors, but Canon software produced right colors? I found that strange.)

And

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PRO-100-Professional-Inkjet-Printer/product-reviews/B0095F5BCS/ (see 2 star reviews, then one)

What is this about having to install Canon software for the printer to work? I don't want a printer that can't print or can't print correctly unless I use the provided software.

Then there are threads like this: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51710729

It seems impossible to find a printer, regardless of price or brand, that doesn't have almost as many negative reviews as positive ones.

These %^%$$% people have not a clue what the are talking about or doing for that matter.

The majority of them should not be allowed within a mile form a fine printer.

Take the CANON PRO-100 for instance. Absolute brilliant printer. Nothing can touch it in its class for overall build quality and output.

I and many of us here in this forum are producing gallery quality prints from that and other printer.

Bottom line, any time you about colors being off with this software and fine with another I will bet my whole printing army that it is due to user error.

It's the same mentality that makes a person think that if they buy a 5k Nikon or Canon camera they will all of a sudden begin to produce master pieces. Need I say more? The same applies to printers.

You need to learn the art. And by the way printing from a USB stick is not what most of us here consider proper work flow. Unless all you want are snapshots.

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My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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In reply to jtoolman, 6 months ago

I agree with your comments about the Canon Pixma Pro-100. It is a remarkable printer. People who complain about the cost of ink seem to be those who expect to get something for nothing. If you want to print your own photos then you need to be willing to pay the price. Actually, the Pixma Pro-100 seems to be a relatively economical printer as far as ink consumption is concerned. If you want to really save a lot of money then consider refilling your own cartridges (that comment is directed at the OP). I'm still using the set of cartridges that came with the printer. I don't print a lot, but compared to my previous printer the ink seems to be lasting longer than I expected. And, again, the images are remarkable. I was a little disappointed with the first couple of prints that I made. But that is because I wasn't careful in choosing printer and paper profiles. You have to pay attention to what you're doing if you want quality prints.

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In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

Joe (jtoolman) +1, has given you the best reply so far.

Direct from flash storage printing is really designed for printing documents and snaps. Generally the only time you will get near acurate color reproduction is from sRGB jpgs, and even then most printers tend to give exaggerated (overly vivid and saturated) prints using this mode. Some slightly, but with others it is obvious.

If you want accurate color reproduction, then you need a color managed workflow using a color managed software application.

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I fully concur with the above replies. Forget about printing fine quality photos or art from anything other than a 'puter.

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of COURSE I'll install it and send files from my computer. But from the reviews I got the impression that you can only use the canon software for sending files to be printed.

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Sometimes I wish the replies here would come with a little smaller side dish of ego.

I haven't had to make prints because that's not what I do. I'm learning about the art right now, but after learning the "art" I can't make thin air or a non-photo printer print the photos, can I? Or does learning "proper printing" also come with superpowers, like conjuring solid objects from thin air?

Other than that I appreciate the comment and picking apart the amazon reviews.

Where I'm coming from, I don't trust a single company to put quality above making money quicker, which is why I don't tend to discount reported problems be the company however big, no matter how much the product costs.

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I never said I would print only from usbs, and I thought the color profile can be embedded on the usb.

I didn't KNOW there is a DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY when printing from a usb stick. How should I? Companies make their own prints, I'm buying a printer because I could use the added ability to make prints.

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forget about it, now that I had it explained to me so nicely.

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So, what is it that you really want? A photo-quality printer that requires no computer or software or any connection whatsoever to print high-quality images that are at least 11 x 14"? No effort, no color correction, no thinking, just automatic perfect prints every time from nowhere. Right? It seems to me that you need to decide what is that you expect. I doubt you'll get a lot of help or suggestions from here. I could be wrong.

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Thank you for your reply. If you read my post, you'll not I didn't say I think the inks are costly. I listed it as one of the complaints the reviews brought up.

I do not enjoy having words put in my mouth.

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Do you get off on being offensive?

I thought you could do all the color work on a computer, and then print from the stick when all the color adjustments are done.

I thought so because I haven't had to print any photos in the period when the pro-100, or the previous X models for that matter, have existed.

Operating systems, software, and workflows change all the time. If I haven't had to print anything, I haven't had to print anything.

Does owning a printer come with a necessary amount of unwarranted self-importance?

I want a printer that can print photos from a computer where the color profiles have been calibrated to that particular printer. I don't want a printer that is unable to color profile or print using any other software than the one provided by the manufacturer. I thought printing from the USB would be possible, if the images are calibrated to the color profile of the printer. I did not know it was not possible. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved. I don't want a printer that can produce great prints no work involved.

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In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

An AIO like the Canon MG6220 will do wonderful prints right off a memory card. But the relatively inexpensive, simpler printers that can print off memory cards are usually limited to 8-1/2 x 11 paper size.

To get a printer that is designed for photos and will make 11 x 14 prints, then we are talking about more expensive, more complex to maintain printers, especially as these printers can have from 8 to 12 ink positions.

I think you will be happy with something like the Canon MG series at an investment of less than $150, it would be a good way to get started with printing. Once you print from a computer-based application, even the basic print programs that are part of system software, even if you print from a browser (and images can be loaded into browsers for display as simply as drag and drop), then driver software is always involved.

Good luck.

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In reply to canonagain123, 6 months ago

I didn't put any words in your mouth. Really, what I want to know is what you are actually looking for. I didn't say that you sent the link was expensive. I was just saying that those who complain about the expense don't realize there is a cost involved in printing from home. We aren't communicating, and probably never will. I apologize for taking up your time. I won't comment again. Good luck finding like you are after.

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In reply to Gesture, 6 months ago

I noticed the misunderstood part now. When I said "not attach the printer to the computer in the first place" I didn't mean not installing the drivers and getting the color profiles, I meant the ability to print even when the printer is not connected to a computer. I also didn't know only "cheaper models" print straight off of media. I didn't know the more you pay for quality, the less you get. I'm asking for help because I don't know anything about any printers in existence, or any programs related to them. I learn by doing, so buying a printer before I fully know how to use it makes perfect sense to me.

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canonagain123 wrote:

I never said I would print only from usbs, and I thought the color profile can be embedded on the usb.

I didn't KNOW there is a DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY when printing from a usb stick. How should I? Companies make their own prints, I'm buying a printer because I could use the added ability to make prints.

OK first of all you would not embed a printing profile with your file.
You can not print FROM a USB directly to the print and expect to be able to color manage the print.

This can only be done through software that allows you to use ICC profiles.

Files can have embedded color spaced. aRGB / sRGB/ Adobe RGB / PRO Photo RGB and such.

A cheap printer can barely reproduce the sRGB color space.

I do print from a USB or SD card directly from the camera to my EPSON Artisan 720 at parties. Letting the printer enhance or correct the unedited jpg from my usb of card and it will print some pretty nice pics.

However is you really fine work you can not work that way.

If printing fine images is not what you are after then yes.

If you plan on printing great images then you need a high end printer.

You need to calibrate the monitor used in editing with a Hardware calibrator.

You need to use software that will allow you to print through ICC profiles. Some are Photo Shop, Lightroom, Qimage.

Then you must turn off ALL color management from within your printer driver. That option may be

be more obvious like on EPSONs of pretty hidden as in CANONs. WHY? Because you would end up with both the driver and the editing app trying to tell the printer how to mab every color value your file contains, resulting in a bad off color print.

This work flow will insure that what you see on the monitor will closely match what your printer outputs. It will never be identical. It is impossible to do so.

None of the Home use printers will print on solid sheets of aluminum. Coated or otherwise.

Only printers with a straight paper path through the front or back may possibly allow you to do so.

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX-7400/R-1900/R-2000/R-2400/R-2880/PRO-3800/R-340/R-380/SP-1400/Artisan- 725/Canon-Pro-9000MKII/Canon-PRO-9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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In reply to Jim Hess, 6 months ago

I wasn't referring to you personally, I feel frustrated that everything I wrote in my first post or my next messages was misunderstood. Everything. I can only fault myself for my bad wording, and asking questions that assume things that don't make sense because I don't know what I'm talking about. I can fault others for their "oh, you want to take your little picture wicture snappy shots and put them on a stick and stick it in a magic box that gives you a print? how cute." Because even though those weren't the words overtly used, they seemed to be the attitude between the lines.

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In reply to jtoolman, 6 months ago

for finally giving me a much more helpful answer. I had it all wrong, I had no idea that's how it works, but I'm glad to know that now. Like I said in my previous post, I learn by doing, so it makes sense to me to buy a printer before I know how to use it, so I can learn to use it.

I prefer printers with a straight path through anyway, but now I know it has the additional benefit of being able to print on aluminum. That's not something I would even think about trying, before fully mastering printing on paper.

I really appreciate you taking the time to explain these things to me. Maybe I should have made it a lot more obvious that I don't know what I'm talking about or how to print with a printer, but I want a proper printer so I can learn how to use a proper printer.

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