Sony 35mm 1.8 vs 18-135mm for A65.

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photolover77
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Sony 35mm 1.8 vs 18-135mm for A65.
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Hi! I am getting my first DSLR (or DSLT) soon, and I'm not sure which lens to get with it. I know that the 35mm is a great prime, and the IQ is probably superior to the 18-135. But the 18-135 is more convenient, and it has a great look and feel! Although I do love portraits and low light photography... suggestions?

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photolover77 wrote:

Hi! I am getting my first DSLR (or DSLT) soon, and I'm not sure which lens to get with it. I know that the 35mm is a great prime, and the IQ is probably superior to the 18-135. But the 18-135 is more convenient, and it has a great look and feel! Although I do love portraits and low light photography... suggestions?

Congrats on the new camera..

You have to choose.  If it were me between the two I would get the zoom.. Its pretty good if get it in a kit or find it discounted for $300.

I almost got it.  Ended up with the New Sigma 17-70 "C" which I love.

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Get the zoom.  The 18-135 has a reputation of being a very good lens and, even after you invest in more special purpose lenses, it will always serve you well as a general purpose, walk around/travel lens.  The 35 is very good lens but very limited to a specific range, not wide enough for real wide angle work and not long enough for any telephoto work.

You will also be able to determine what focal lengths you really use the most through experience with the zoom lens.

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I have built my system around the Sony 16-50 f/2.8.  I really love this lens.  I have the 18-55 kit lens and always found 18mm not wide enough.  16mm (24mm equivalent) is a much better starting point in my opinion.  I recently added a 55-300 to the 16-50 but the 16-50 is really the cornerstone of my system.

Which ever body you decide on I think the 16-50 f/2.8 is an excellent lens that won't leave you wanting to upgrade in a few months.  My 16-50 has made my 50mm 1.7, 30mm 1.4 and 20mm 2.8 pretty much dust collectors.

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Go for the 18-135mm. It'll give you flexibility so that you can shoot in a wider variety of situations. When you can I would get the 35mm as the next lens. Make sure you get the 18-135mm in a kit. The lens is cheaper that way, and you are kind of throwing money away getting them separately.
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I have both for my A57. Bought the 18-135 with the A57 body, and added the 35 as my second lens. Get the zoom. It's very good IMO; good IQ and practical range.

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Get the 18-135 because it's a great walkaround and the price discount purchased with the body makes it a great deal on an otherwise $500 lens.  Then buy the 35 f1.8 separately because it's a great inexpensive little lens in it's own right.

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I would suggest the 18-135mm too, if you can't decide. You can still buy the 35mm f/1.8 later. That is very useful indoor and in low light situations in general. But for general purpose without special needs, that zoom could be enough. And don't forget, you can go high in iso settings. I use the A65 myself.
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The Sony 18-135 will be a legendary lens in the future, colors are amazing as is the whole IQ made with this lens.

I sold it when I got the A99, because it didn't work nice on a FF, but I'm still sorry about selling that lens.

The 35MM, is also a very nice lens, you can buy this lens anytime because of the low price.

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Neither, I suggest 16-50mm f2.8 or may be cz 16-80.  for telephoto I use the beercan Minolta 70-210 f4.

When you buy lens go for quality. One good lens is better than many bad ones. both the lenses are good but think there are better setups than the 18-135 but it all depends on your uses.

for me I rarely go above 50mm so I don't benefit much from 18-135. I benefit more from good lens in wide angle to 50mm range.

So what will you use the most or photograph the most? Then find the best or a really good lens for that purpose. Don't buy lens for the sake of them. I did once and it's fun lol but it's expensive.

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I even plan to buy 35mm f/1.8 in addition to my 16-50mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.8. I call it a must have for every A-moubt shooter. But if you plan to buy one lens only (at first) then i would go with 18-135mm, if best possible quality and low light or less DOF is not the most important part.
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Sony 35mm 1.8 is the best budget prime Sony lens and also best for low light

18-55 or 18-135 are not recommended good for low light.. Sony 16-50 F/2.8 is the best lens for any Sony APS-C sensor. And if you cannot afford it, Tamron 17-50 F/2.8 should be your next choice.

For longer budget zooms I would say Tamron 70-300 USD or Sony 55-300 SAM

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The low light discussion is distorted.

If the light really is so low that you need F1.8, the picture will almost never be beautiful with a low handheld shutter speed. (on A65)

The low F most of the time is for the bokeh in a good light with a short shutter speed.

The argument about the tele Minolta, these are fantastic lenses BUT often older then 20 years, the biggest setback with these lenses is the severe CA, something you won't have with a modern lens like the 18-135MM and the color of this lens is very nice also.

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I like tge Sony 16-50mm a lot too, but if it is THE BEST for ANY a-mount camera, i dont know. There are so many alternatives and different needs. Also the 50mm Sony prime is cheaper than 35mm. Both are known for excellent image quality (which is not the only property making a good lens) and you cannot say one is superior to the other. It depends.
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The low light discussion is distorted.

Its not distorted, its the bitter truth which everyone faces, there is a dramatic performance difference in F 1.8 and F 3.5

If the light really is so low that you need F1.8, the picture will almost never be beautiful with a low handheld shutter speed. (on A65)

It really depends upon situations, Wider lens will give you a chance to shoot pictures under 1/30 shutter speed without actually worrying about the ISO levels

The low F most of the time is for the bokeh in a good light with a short shutter speed.

The argument about the tele Minolta, these are fantastic lenses BUT often older then 20 years, the biggest setback with these lenses is the severe CA, something you won't have with a modern lens like the 18-135MM and the color of this lens is very nice also.

You don't see CA because SLTs removes CA from your photographs by the cost of overall IQ. You can turn off the Auto-corrections related to CA/distortions by going into Menu to check the actual performance

We already had discussions on kit lens up-gradations and Tamron 17-50 is the best lens unless you need Sony 16-50 for weather sealing and SSM focusing system, if you see my follow-ups on the here, most of the users here are in favor of this lens.

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AlphaTikal wrote:

I like tge Sony 16-50mm a lot too, but if it is THE BEST for ANY a-mount camera, i dont know. There are so many alternatives and different needs. Also the 50mm Sony prime is cheaper than 35mm. Both are known for excellent image quality (which is not the only property making a good lens) and you cannot say one is superior to the other. It depends.

Of-course Sony 50mm F 1.8 is cheaper but its IQ is not upto the mark of Sony 35mm.

You get what you pay for.

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The shutter speed is not only important for camera shake if handhold. I have done photography in the night with 10mm (apsc crop) and was fine with f/3.5 without the need for high iso. The problem was sometimes movement of subject. Freezing a moment was harder or not predictable with 1/10.
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The shutter speed is not only important for camera shake if handhold. I have done photography in the night with 10mm (apsc crop) and was fine with f/3.5 without the need for high iso. The problem was sometimes movement of subject. Freezing a moment was harder or not predictable with 1/10.

Yes, that is where F 2.8 comes in hands, Tokina AF 11-16 F2.8 would work better there with shutter equal or faster than 1/30 in the situation you mentioned with F3.5

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Where did you got that? These two lenses are equal in quality. The term what you pay is what you get implies ecerything cheaper is worse. The 35mm and 50mm f/1.8 from Sony are both equal good and cheap lenses. The price is.no indicator here. 50mm is (as long as i know) cheaper in peoduction.

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Yea thats true. I wish i had buyed the Tokina instead.
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