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Tokina ATX 150-500mm/5.6 on e-Bay

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Rod McD
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Tokina ATX 150-500mm/5.6 on e-Bay
Dec 30, 2013

Hi,

I don't know if this appeals to long lens enthusiasts but there's a Tokina ATX 150-500mm constant aperture f5.6 MF zoom for sale - appeared on e-Bay today.  USD $468 starting bid for auction.  Three days to close.

These things were supposed to be sharp, including at the long end, and an affordable 500mm f5.6 is a rare beast indeed.  I'm tempted but I'm a bit broke at the moment........

Cheers, Rod

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In reply to Rod McD, Dec 31, 2013

I had one once, in Pentax mount. Not a bad lens infact as I sold a shot of an egret flying away from me to a MD nature center and they use it on one of their brochures. That was in the late 80's or early 90's. David (ZX5Lx) and I compared notes on that lens compared to the Tamron AD-2 200-500/5.6 and we both agreed that the Tamron was slightly better at the long end but neither gave that much away to the other over the rest of the range. Photodo did not give the lens a very good MTF score, only 2.0, which is near the bottom of long zooms but we thought the score was a little unfair. When stopped down to F8 or F11 it was decent enough. Howevert I replaced that Tokina after about a year with my first example of the Tamron SP 200-500 after testing that one out. Both were somewhat of a pain except on an monopod because both had tripod collars that were way too far to the rear of the balance point with the Tamron being the worst of the 2 in that regard. That Tokina 150-500/5.6 is actually a sharper lens overall when compared to the later Tokina 80-400/5.6 AF lens, which suffers from significant reduced sharpness at the long end.

Kent Gittings

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In reply to Rod McD, Jan 2, 2014

Well i hope i did the right thing..............

Just bought this......

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In reply to thegreat26, Jan 2, 2014

Dave (Zx5Lx) here. Wow Kent!  Can't believe after all these years you recall our conversation....I'm impressed!  You nailed the performance of these two lenses to a "T".  I agree, a good sample of the Tokina 150-500 is indeed a decent bargain.  It does have some shortcomings when used with a 12MP sensor or hight, depending how large you plan to print but so does the Tamron 200-500 f5.6 and their 300 f2.8 and unique 400 f4 lenses.

You are  also right about the later Tokina 80-400 f5.6 lens.  It may be very small and light compared to the 150-500 but unfortunately as you stated, it's performance at the long end leaves much to be desired.

How ironic we should be talking about these lenses now.  Just a week ago I came across a Tokina 15-500 f5.6 in Nikon mount and was tempted to grab it.  Then I thought twice since I would be using it on a higher resolution DSLR and my guess is it would fall short for my needs.  Still all in all, a good sample has potential for not a hugh sum of money.

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In reply to Dave, Jan 3, 2014

Where are you living these days, David? With the demise of all the camera swap meets we did not have a chance to get together like in the old days. I moved around the area, now living in Hagerstown but in the process of moving to the Martinsburg, WV area which is near where I work.

PM me an answer. I am also on the PF forum.

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In reply to Rod McD, Jan 10, 2014

Well this is my message reagarding my purchase of that specific tokina 150-500 lens.

I always wanted this lens so i gave it a bid.

I WON IT i received it today from japan ay 7:45 in the morning. And i took her for a ride to capture some flamingoes. As soon as the sun hit the lens i saw a couple of spots under the first glass element and a large amount of haze inside.

I felt really stupid because a friend of mine i think inside here was warning us about buying used lens from the net.

I contacted the seller and he offered me 20usd as a compensation. Jesus........

I paid 518usd for this no fungus no haze excelent + condition lens and he offered me 20usd as compensation.

Anyway i asked for a full refund i already send them back and i am already almost 160usd poorer because i lost all the money i paid for customs plus the 44 euros for sending the lens back.

This is the exact answer i took:

Hello,

Sorry for my mistake.
I had missed to correct my template.
I misunderstood the spots were on the filter.
I can accept 20USD refund as compensation.

I hope you enjoy with the lens,

Thank you,

So my dear friends be extra cautious and careful before buying used lens from the internet.

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In reply to thegreat26, Jan 11, 2014

I am sorry to hear that, i has hoping to see some pictures taken with the lens.

Buying from ebay is risky, I learnt it also the hard way. In any case, maybe you can claim back the 160 USD since you can prove now the lens was exported (returned).

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In reply to PrakticaB, Jan 11, 2014

I had already spoke with my customs office.

The answer?

What comes in can't come out.

Anyway at least i manage to touch one of my all time favorites. And i am sure this lens is not available anywhere close to Cyprus.

Got to save for sth better i quess.

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In reply to thegreat26, Jan 13, 2014

This is one reason I don't buy or bid on lenses being sold from Japan or Hong Kong.

Kent Gittings

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In reply to KentG, Jan 13, 2014

No kidding, Kent!

Any time I see "a good deal" online -- ANYWHERE -- and the seller is in Hong Kong or somewhere, I just write it off. That's the same sort of thing I figure... They could even NOT send the product and just WHAT am I going to do? Go to China and press charges?!?!? Unless I'm some American big-wig I could be the one to end up in jail. Besides, it would likely cost more to do that (or most any other funds recovery method), than the $$$ lost.

So for me, if it's not sold in America, I don't buy it... Maybe Canada, although nothing so far. I'll let the manufacturers and middlemen deal with international trade.

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In reply to thegreat26, Jan 13, 2014

Sorry to hear about your problem.  Re: your reply from Customs, do they mean that if you were to return the lens they will still not refund the taxes you paid on importation?

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In reply to Wickedstreak, Jan 13, 2014

I have already send them back since day one.

Normally i should get my tax money back but yes this is the answer i got.

Unfortunately here in Cyprus you can't find anything regarding pentax to buy. New or old. All the buys i made from USA and preferably UK were trouble free.

This guy refunded me the money but the whole 'i forgot the template' thing was suspicious.

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In reply to thegreat26, 1 week ago

Hi

I have just seen this post and was wondering did you leave him negative feedback? also was the seller Happy new world?

I just bought this lens from him I hope its not the same lens you bought.

Regards Steve

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In reply to kwa_Zulu, 1 week ago

Hi

I have just seen this post and was wondering did you leave him negative feedback? also was the seller Happy new world?

I just bought this lens from him I hope its not the same lens you bought.

Regards Steve

I don't remember the seller but I think the name was different. If there is haze inside maybe it's the same lens.....kidding. I guess you will be luckier than me.

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In reply to thegreat26, 1 week ago

This is description.

◆Optical system

There is no balsam separation.

There is no moisture/fog on inside of the lens.

It has no tiny fungus.

It has no small scratch.

◆Appearance of the item

There is usually abrasion by the use.

Please check on the photos for detailed condition of the product.

◆Functional

It works properly.

◆Includings

All you can see on this photo will be included in a set of a package.

Made in Japan

If you have any question or concern, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you for visiting.

does that ring a bell?

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In reply to kwa_Zulu, 1 week ago

Btw this lens is an Md mount.

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In reply to kwa_Zulu, 1 week ago

Btw this lens is an Md mount.

No this is not the description I remember. My lens was k mount.

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In reply to Rod McD, 1 week ago

These things were supposed to be sharp, including at the long end,

NOT in my book. I owned one of these for some time, and, while I really wanted to love the lens, its softness (lack of resolution and contrast) at the long end became more and more annoying (since, not surprisingly, I found myself using it much of the time at 500mm).

My copy was in very good shape, including the glass (as opposed to the lens in question here), and it (other than the long end softness) was a lovely beast overall. I still have my review of it (with pix of it) at http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/tokina-150-500mm-f-5-6-x.html . Of course, I could judge only that one particular lens. (I have long since sold the lens.)

It was really a shame. At the time I bought it I already had been extremely pleased with my Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 (about as sharp at the long end as it is at the short end, which, in my experience, is not overly common), and I had hoped that the 150-500/5.6 was going to be some sort of a "super 100-300/4".  So I was quite disappointed.

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In reply to fwcetus, 1 week ago

Like I said during the time of the original posting the lens is not bad when using film or 6-10 MP DSLRs (I did not mention that before I don't think). Even the better regarded Tamron 200-500/5.6 showed a little weakness at the long end compared to say my Sigma 100-300/4 EX IF HSM (EOS). In fact the Sigma with a top TC (Canon 1.4x II/III or Kenko Pro 300 1.4x) is better at the long end than either the Tokina or Tamron at least a little bit. Neither is anywhere in the same league as the Pentax 150-450, but I would not expect such older lenses to be good on DSLRs as the coatings are not up to modern standards. One difference is I had no problem in 2011 in selling my 200-500/5.6 for around $450.

Kent Gittings

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In reply to KentG, 1 week ago

Hi

I got my Tokina ATX 150-500mm/5.6 today front Japan and I must say it is in perfect condition

Its heavy and solid, I have only taken a few pictures so far because its winter here in Melbourne Australia and its been overcast since I got it.

I'm using it with my A7ii I'm really looking forward to giving it a real go.

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