Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1

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Re: Whew, you paid a lot
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For the close to $1300 for the GX7 (black kit with 20 pancake)

Whew!  You sure paid a lot for that 20mm lens.  The body is selling for $728 so that makes your 20mm $572.  I paid $340 for my 20mm last year.  Certainly, for $1300 I wouldn't buy the GX7 + 20mm either.

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It was $1,098 for the black kit and another $198 for the 20 since it was a package deal. Got another $100 off. But since $1,200 was a lot. I ended up getting a Ricoh GR instead.

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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

The GX7 is very customizable, the IBIS works very well, the EVF and LCD are both top-notch.  Great ergonomics and a very solid feel make you want to use it.  I think you chose wisely.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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I think you made a sound choice to be honest. The EM1 is probably the ultimate m43 camera for now . . .

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E-M1 is the m43 pace-setter in both features and design

If the GX7 fits your style and pocketbook, however, it was the right choice. I took a m43 option that is even less expensive: the E-PM2. Less can be more.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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sounds like you've made a good choice to suit your needs.

Do you ever shoot manual with auto ISO?  I believe panasonic's lack this feature.

Also, just a question for those that have a gx7... does the panasonic have 'live-view' highlights/shadows alerts?  I find this feature very useful in my EM5 when trying to ETTR, and would really miss it

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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The reason to buy an E-M1 is not superior IQ, but superior ergonomics, view finder, and performance (i.e. image buffer). To me that money would have been well spent.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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For me, the E-M1 only had two advantages over the GX7...weather sealing and a larger EVF.  IQ is equal and the GX7 trumps the E-M1, by a large margin, in video functions and quality.  Couple that with the smaller size of the GX7 and it was a no-brainer for me to purchase the GX7, my first m4/3 camera.

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for ME the EM1 was an easy decision. I had a EM5 before and while I fully recognize the quality capabilities of the Panny line the EM1 was a more "professional" tool with which I can do what I need to when called upon for a paid job. The GX7 to me is a fine tool for travel and personal use with little left wanting. The feature set, build and EVF and IBIS of the EM1 DO warrant the price in comparison. It's more a matter of whether it is a value to YOU. I'm not sorry I anted up for the 12-40 f2.8 to go with it as well. Makes for a fine no compromise professional tool. I'm glad you're GX7 is all you asked for. That's what a good personal decision is all about.

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In reply to Ricky JJ, 10 months ago

This is sort of an odd thread. You already bought the GX7 so why second guess your purchase? do you really need validation after the fact? What happens if the conflicting responses to your question lead you to believe you made a mistake? Answer - you won't joy your new camera like you should. Do yourself a favor. right now walk away from your computer and this forum, and go out and shoot! That should give you all the validation you could hope for.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

You can't go wrong with either, they're both very good cameras. Each has its special flair.

I picked the E-M1 over the GX7 on the basis of its support for my FourThirds SLR lenses. Beyond that, the quality of its EVF is extraordinary, even compared to the GX7, and the camera's overall responsiveness in use is a mite better than anything else in this price class. The ability to fit a battery grip for use with larger, heavier lenses is a big plus for me too as the FT SLR lenses and the Leica R lenses I occasionally adapt to the camera are somewhat large and heavy.

I've not worried one bit about how much better or worse the image quality from this camera is vs the GX7. Both are outstanding, good enough to say "no matter."

Enjoy whichever you pick.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1 (and an E-P5)
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Just to throw a little Steve Huff everyone's way: he calld the GX7 the "second best m43 camera" after the E-M1, but now has rescinded that judgment in favor of the Olympus E-P5. So accordingly, Ricky, you bought the 3rd best m43 camera (lol). This sort of enterprise gets really silly . . .

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/tag/olympus-e-p5/

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

No one can tell you you made a wrong decision if you couldn't see a reason to pay the extra money.

Personally, for the primary work I do, the EM1 offers more flexibility than the GX7, while the GX7 does offer more versatility in video and the silent electronic shutter. Ideally I'd buy both, since on a given performance shoot having 2 bodies is a great advantage anyway.

I'm waiting to see what the upcoming low end OMD has to offer. If it's the same form factor, EVF and sensor as the EM1, with an electronic shutter, I would easily forego some of the versatility the EM1 offers.

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

Seriously, why so insecure about your decision? Seems like you went about it the right way . . . did a lot of research, factored in price, and came to a conclusion. Almost by definition it's the right decision (for you). But this thread is only going to incite a lot of responses from people who made a different decision FOR THEM, which FOR YOU is irrelevant. Be happy with your new camera. Take lots of pictures!

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In reply to Ricky JJ, 10 months ago

I might just buy both... Each has its plusses.

But for now I'll stick w the E-M5... weather sealed, can slim down when needed, and nearly the same IQ... plus I still have 18 months on the extended warranty.

Hey, maybe by then the Sony A8 will be out fixing the A7 issues, and the E-M1MkII will be announced w sensor upgrades rivaling today's best FF.

But really, if the GX7 does what you need it to do, and the extras on the E-M1 are not of interest, don't worry about your decision, just go out and enjoy the camera!

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

There are many differences between them

If you wanted the GX7 as its cheaper and also an excellent camera then great, don't have buyers remorse

I hope you love the GX7

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Where do you find this kind of information about different cameras?

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Re: Deciding to buy a GX7 over an E-M1
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"does the panasonic have 'live-view' highlights/shadows alerts?"

Yes it does.

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WAlso, I like all the customisable buttons the E-M1 offers; really help make the processes much faster and easier.

Doesn't the GX7 and even the G6 have more customisable buttons than the E-M1?

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Doubtful, EM1 has 6, fn1, fn2, record, front1, front2, AEL/AFL, plus you can set the 4-way controller to be custom buttons too, so that's what 10? And the 2x2 lever system gives you even more if you need it. All that before you even consider the fixed function buttons for drive/time/hdr, and af/metering.

The GH3 comes close in terms of physical controls, but I think the EM1 still has more.

Apologies then, I've just counted them on the G6 and it's 8. What I can't do is customise the 4-way controller, now that would be nice. Oh no, I now have customizable button envy.

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Honestly the EM-1 has so many customize-able buttons that I have trouble assigning useful functions to them all. But then I shoot in raw so the color creator, highlight/shadow adjustment, etc is useless to me.

Also there is no option to assign a button to spot metering toggle, now that I would really like, a physical switch for it like my A900 would be even better.

You could set spot metering to one of the Mysets and assign THAT to a button.
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This is sort of an odd thread. You already bought the GX7 so why second guess your purchase? do you really need validation after the fact? What happens if the conflicting responses to your question lead you to believe you made a mistake? Answer - you won't joy your new camera like you should. Do yourself a favor. right now walk away from your computer and this forum, and go out and shoot! That should give you all the validation you could hope for.

Hard not to indulge in what if and comparisoning.  The two cameras are first rate.  Yes, you made a lousy decision if you want to know the truth.  So you saved four hundred dollars.  Two day passes to Disneyland.  About 200 medium size stuffed crust pizzas.  Four pair of quality running shoes.  A pair of Michelin racing tires. Big deal.  Are they as much fun as the pride of owning Olympus's flagship.  Flagship as in the carrier that held Admiral Halsey through the Pacific.  And won the war against all those camera loving souls who gave us technical hell with better aircraft and a Banzai spirit to boot.  So get the banzai spirit and forge ahead with what you bought.  And don't look back.  Attack!  Retreat Hell. Take No Prisoners! Me, oh I got an E-M1, a capitalist type with no bank dividends worth a fart. So I spend and spend....

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I think you made a great decision. I've been in µ4/3 since 2009 and the differences between the camera IQ now is not where it's at any more. The advances have been phenomenal.

Consider that my (1+ year old) E-M5 has the same sensor rating as my Canon full frame 5D that I still sometimes use.

Now it's about features and camera usability... but that can and should be a very personal thing.

I've used both the E-M1 and the GX7.  They are both excellent.

The reasons I think you made the right choice:

Rangefinder body style ...very personal but important to me

Only rangefinder style yet in µ4/3 with both built in EVF and flash.

Silent shutter. E-M1 is not loud and beautiful like my A7's shutter, but it can't go truly as silent as the GX7 can. Can be important in many settings.

Extremely customizable through external buttons and easy to set, although not as much as my Sony A7, but still better than the E-M1 IMO. E-M1 is very customizable, but you have to know Olympus menu system, which is great, but has a steep learning curve. Still I like the buttons on the GX7.

For a cam to be so well thought out and executed, the ONLY misstep  by Panasonic, IMO, was not to put auto ISO in manual mode. I use my full frame MF lenses on µ4/3 sometimes and they are MF...and I really benefit from auto ISO....one thing I have come to dislike about my 5D... it doesn't have it. Yes I can work around it but if you plan on using MF lenses, that is a consideration.

Then last but not least...features and IQ for price. Of course you really can't argue that well here because there are many who know that there's great value in last or a few years old models.

Still the GX7 is a MUCH better value... especially if you get the body only at $728, which I saw yesterday at Samy's.

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Ricky JJ wrote:

Hello!

This month I decided it's finally time to upgrade my GH2.
I was set to buy either the GX7 or the E-M1. I spent a few days pouring over reviews, and finally decided to buy the GX7.
This is what made me decide:
Bypassing the super hype for the E-M1, I couldn't find enough differences in IQ and features to justify the price difference. I payed $728 on the GX7 body, while the E-M1 was $1400. With the price difference, I was able to buy a nice lens (The Pana 25mm 1.4) and still have leftover money.

From what I gathered, the image quality and low light performance is pretty much the same. The E-M1 has in body stabilization (which the Gx7 also has, though not as good) and weather sealing, while the GX7 is more compact and does better video (something I value).

Am I wrong? Do you think I made a good decision?? I couldn't find anything that really justifies an almost 700 dollar price difference, and the GX7 still seems like an awesome camera for my needs!

No nothing justifies that difference.

The GX7 is an amazing camera.

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