Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150

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photo perzon
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Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150
7 months ago

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

AF accuracy similar

IQ same in good light

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces.  E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

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Re: Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150
In reply to photo perzon, 7 months ago

photo perzon wrote:

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

AF accuracy similar

IQ same in good light

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces. E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

Not surprising.

m43 only really ever pulls well away from the best fixed-lens compact cameras when using fast (and preferably very sharp) lenses, and the 40-150 is neither.

Although I'm dubious about your claim that the IQ is the same in good light.  Would love to see some comparison shots.

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photo perzon wrote:

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

AF accuracy similar

IQ same in good light

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces. E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

IS (stabelization) excellent in E-M1 and Stylus 1, mediocre (shaking) in PM2 and PL5 at 150mm

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Re: Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150
In reply to photo perzon, 7 months ago

photo perzon wrote:

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

Possible, but would doubt it in all circumstances, like low light where higher ISOs are needed.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

Very doubtful

AF accuracy similar

Again, possible but only in perfect circumstances (bright light and very high contrast)

IQ same in good light

Very doubtful, possibly close in perfect conditions

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces. E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

Here you made your point.

Funny thing. First you start a thread that the Stylus 1 is terrible compared to the PM2/PL5 and now you start another that it is as good as the EM1. So how do you explain your major shift in attitude towards this camera? Just curious.

Steve

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Re: Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150
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Steven Wandy wrote:

photo perzon wrote:

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

Possible, but would doubt it in all circumstances, like low light where higher ISOs are needed.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

Very doubtful

AF accuracy similar

Again, possible but only in perfect circumstances (bright light and very high contrast)

IQ same in good light

Very doubtful, possibly close in perfect conditions

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces. E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

Here you made your point.

Funny thing. First you start a thread that the Stylus 1 is terrible compared to the PM2/PL5 and now you start another that it is as good as the EM1. So how do you explain your major shift in attitude towards this camera? Just curious.

Steve

Me too

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Steven Wandy wrote:

photo perzon wrote:

Much better than PL5 or PM2.

Possible, but would doubt it in all circumstances, like low light where higher ISOs are needed.

AF speed same of Stylus 1 and E-M1

Very doubtful

AF accuracy similar

Again, possible but only in perfect circumstances (bright light and very high contrast)

IQ same in good light

Very doubtful, possibly close in perfect conditions

Stylus 1 is 14 ounces. E-M1 with 40-150 is 8 ounces more.

Here you made your point.

Funny thing. First you start a thread that the Stylus 1 is terrible compared to the PM2/PL5 and now you start another that it is as good as the EM1. So how do you explain your major shift in attitude towards this camera? Just curious.

Steve

I used it.  Focus was better for really far antennas with Stylus 1 than with E-M1 with 40-150 oly lens.

yes in good light.  In indoor light the Stylus is so so ISO 800 a good idea.

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Re: Stylus 1 as good as E-M1 with 40-150
In reply to photo perzon, 7 months ago

You must be one of the unluckiest blokes around these parts.

First a faulty Stylus 1 and now a faulty EM-1 by the look of it.

Absolutely amazed you have stuck with Olympus.

Everyone here would love to see some examples of the comparison images.

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Aaron Sur wrote:

You must be one of the unluckiest blokes around these parts.

First a faulty Stylus 1 and now a faulty EM-1 by the look of it.

Absolutely amazed you have stuck with Olympus.

Everyone here would love to see some examples of the comparison images.

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You must be one of the unluckiest blokes around these parts.

First a faulty Stylus 1 and now a faulty EM-1 by the look of it.

Absolutely amazed you have stuck with Olympus.

Everyone here would love to see some examples of the comparison images.

Weird stuff happens when one actually takes pictures with a camera...one finds the feel for it, the timing, all sorts of results and magically the camera starts to give better results.

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In reply to photo perzon, 7 months ago

Ok so the voodoo with the EM-1 has not kicked in yet?

No worries it will be an eyeopener for you once the witchcraft starts to take effect.

If theStylus is that good looks like I wasted my hard earned dollars  

Merry Christmas

Aaron

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Ok so the voodoo with the EM-1 has not kicked in yet?

No worries it will be an eyeopener for you once the witchcraft starts to take effect.

If theStylus is that good looks like I wasted my hard earned dollars

Merry Christmas

Aaron

Yes a shame Fuji messed it up with the X

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photo perzon wrote:

Aaron Sur wrote:

You must be one of the unluckiest blokes around these parts.

First a faulty Stylus 1 and now a faulty EM-1 by the look of it.

Absolutely amazed you have stuck with Olympus.

Everyone here would love to see some examples of the comparison images.

Weird stuff happens when one actually takes pictures with a camera...one finds the feel for it, the timing, all sorts of results and magically the camera starts to give better results.

The thing is; even with the Stylus 1; nothing really weird happens when I take a picture; the ''feel'' for it comes from reading the manual and pushing the right buttons.  I gather you didn't read that manual at first, posted a thread a few days ago stating it was a bad camera....and now suddenly (and even magically) the Stylus is great again....

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I don't know mate , I reckon he has got Fuji X worked out I tried to do a moon shot like Henry Falkner

but the gravitational effects of the moon affected the signal to noise ratio of the APSC sensor so I ended staying up all night and just before dawn The moon got low enough on the horizon and I got got this lousy shot.

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Aaron Sur wrote:

You must be one of the unluckiest blokes around these parts.

First a faulty Stylus 1 and now a faulty EM-1 by the look of it.

Absolutely amazed you have stuck with Olympus.

Aaron,

Imaging Resources is/are pretty impressed the Stylus 1 and ever since my Nikon CP8400 failed (after six years of light duty) I've been a bit wary of "compacts".  As much as I'd like to get a Stylus 1, if something fails I don't have the support that you guys in the US have (a function of a large and competitive market).

A good compact is never going to compete with MFT bodies, but they are versatile in that they are a bit easier to carry about (and that's one of the secrets of grabbing "keepers").

So what does one do ?

We learn that camera-bodies are disposable (more so thesedays since most are assembled in China !) so rather invest in good glass and dump the bodies, if need be.

A sad reflection of the state of modern mass production.

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Aaron Sur wrote:

I don't know mate , I reckon he has got Fuji X worked out I tried to do a moon shot like Henry Falkner

but the gravitational effects of the moon affected the signal to noise ratio of the APSC sensor so I ended staying up all night and just before dawn The moon got low enough on the horizon and I got got this lousy shot.

It's terrible!

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In reply to australopithecus, 7 months ago

Agree with everything you say mate, btw I'm Australian a wallaby and a mortal enemy of the Springboks

We have thw same problems you do to a lesser extent maybe but  I have had to order stuff You Have to follow this persons threads to see the reason for my reply . One has to put one moneys where one's mouth is, to make incredible unsubstantiated claims with no evidence , well some may go as far as to call them ahem  lies!

The Storey Bridge in Brisbane had its Christmas lighting changed on Sunday to express our support of the people of South Africa at this sad time.

Best wishes for Christmas

Aaron

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In reply to Steven Wandy, 7 months ago

Sharing opinions...

As a pre-stylus 1 (xz-1) user and currently holding a second-gen PEN (E-PM1) with 30mm f 2.8 fixed lens, I can say that Stylus might beat this combo by its;

  • Handheld IS
  • Pocketability

But if your concerns are

  • Image size
  • resolutions & detail
  • DOF (bookeh! Trust me, even XZ-1 ´s razor sharp f 1.8 can´t beat the sigma)
  • better video
  • possibility to improove your optics (there are lenses out there with  F 0,95 !!)

Dude.... PEN, I don´t know the first-gen (E-P1-P2-PL1-PL2) but the second-gen (E-P3, PL3, PM1) are preety good on the second list!

But then the most importand issue as a hobbyist member Kirppu on the forum and also for me too nowadays

THE PRICE RANGE.

My E-PM1 and 30mm sigma together (brand new) costed at 269 euros ! In this part of the world XZ-2´s actual price is 279euros right now! While stylus 1 is 600 euros !!!!!

There is a PEN lens which is not optically superb, but filling exactly the same optical range with a 14-150mm (28-300mm) with a 399euros...

Long story short; my concern is:

Versatility: STYLUS 1

Felxibility: PEN

Regards

Ben

ps: I personally not a fan of "my cam beat your cam !!!!" conversations because, end of the day its all about "my photos beat your photos !!!" is not it

but anyway olympus beat fujifilm !!!!! cheers Aaron.

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Ben O Connor wrote:

Sharing opinions...

As a pre-stylus 1 (xz-1) user and currently holding a second-gen PEN (E-PM1) with 30mm f 2.8 fixed lens, I can say that Stylus might beat this combo by its;

  • Handheld IS
  • Pocketability

Yes but (1) the OP was comparing the Stylus 1 to current 3rd generation Pens and the 4th Generation EM1 as far as AF and IQ was concerned. And to make those comparisons, I have my doubts.

Also, I don't think that the optical two axis IS on the Stylus 1 is any better/worse than the older sensor shift IS that you have on your EPM1.

And as far as pocket ability - I don't know how large your pockets are (cargo pants?), but if I take my EP5 (which is larger than your EPM1), and put on my 14mm 2.5 pancake, it is MUCH more pocketable than my Stylus 1 is.

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In reply to Aaron Sur, 7 months ago

So you're an Australian Aaron,  my apologies for lumping you with the American "consumerists" (no offence meant).  Pleased to learn that you are a rugby union follower as I've never managed to understand footie !

I've just spent four weeks in W.A., and have a son in Brisbane.

Thanks for your condolences, most South Africans will miss the great man, who in my mind was the nearest thing to a saint.

I wish you a peaceful Christmas and look forward to the Wallaby/Springbok clashes of 2014.

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In reply to Ben O Connor, 7 months ago

No question mate, it's the lipstick cam after all made by a cosmetics company.The man from Fuji has said terrible things like " we will provide lots of firmware updates so you can use your camera for a long time".

BTW where's my reindeer shots from the Tundra this year?

Oh well here's a another warship for you.

HMAS Diamantina , River Class Frigate, Battle Honor Pacific. Now a museum ship here in Brisbane.

HMAS DIAMANTINA

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