Any signs of the 150-600 a-mount Tamron?

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Kriekira
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Any signs of the 150-600 a-mount Tamron?
Dec 18, 2013

Hi. I'm planning a trip and might take this lens if it's available. I didn't turn up any even medium-hard news of it's availability. (One site says the Canon-mount version "will be available in the USA on January 17, 2014".)  Can anyone provide any?

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In Canada the Canon mount is coming in February.  I was told by Tamron Canada that, based on prior history, the Nikon Mount would come around April and the Sony mount in June.

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Did Tamron Canada Elaborate if it will have the VC Stabilisation built in Lens on the A mount's ? B&H 's ad does not include VC in the Ad Copy so some including myself am thinking they will short change Sony and Charge identical price as Canon/ Nikon with VC as they have done in the past . At 500 mm I find the OS in the Bigma much more effective than in body IS and would venture to say another hundred would make a real difference . I spoke to a Lady that is an Audubon Volunteer that shoots Canon and she heard "Rumor" that the 150-600 will be the same price as the 200-500 at 999.00 US , I highly doubt that having 20 groups and 14 elements and the new Coatings and VC (hope) oh and a limiter ( I would think it would be closer to 2000.00 but at least the same as the Sigma 50-500 OS at 1599.00.

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Did Tamron Canada Elaborate if it will have the VC Stabilisation built in Lens on the A mount's ? B&H 's ad does not include VC in the Ad Copy so some including myself am thinking they will short change Sony and Charge identical price as Canon/ Nikon with VC as they have done in the past . At 500 mm I find the OS in the Bigma much more effective than in body IS and would venture to say another hundred would make a real difference . I spoke to a Lady that is an Audubon Volunteer that shoots Canon and she heard "Rumor" that the 150-600 will be the same price as the 200-500 at 999.00 US , I highly doubt that having 20 groups and 14 elements and the new Coatings and VC (hope) oh and a limiter ( I would think it would be closer to 2000.00 but at least the same as the Sigma 50-500 OS at 1599.00.

Definitely no VC for Sony.

http://www.tamron-usa.com/lenses/prod/150600_vc_a011.asp#ad-image-0

*3: The Sony mount does not include VC, as Sony digital SLR bodies include image stabilization functionality.

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

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In reply to capt bob, Dec 19, 2013

2 comments on that. Yes Tamron should charge Sony users less for not having OIS. I would rather not have OIS because it has been demonstrated that OIS does negatively affect IQ and battery life and on a beast like that I certainly would use a tri or monopod anyway.

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SHood wrote:

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

WOW that's crazy low price for 600mm zoom. I just hope its sharp enough wide open at 600mm. Tack sharp at F8.

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" it has been demonstrated that OIS does negatively affect IQ "  Not sure what you mean by that  OS stabilizes the lens so it can be used handheld how can that Negatively affect Image quality , that would be the opposite if it's purpose , When locked in a tripod it does affect the image negatively , The instructions mention to shut it off on Tripod as Sony does Spec that as well of the IS , Also if your body has IS and your lens has Stabilization they should not be used together that could affect IQ .

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In reply to Kriekira, Dec 19, 2013

I need it before the end of the year.  I pulled the thin strings I have, and come up empty.

Thanks for the responses.

The 70-400G is my most used lens, so I'm not missing much.  It's also lighter than the 150-600 (unsurprisingly).

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That is a good price Thanks for the links , Wonder how Beach Camera got the Scoop on that before Powerhouse B&H did , they don't even have an announced price as of yet on their site.

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I haven't seen this verification and I'm sure a lot of CanKon users of their VC lenses would strongly disagree.  I believe the image stabilization in the viewfinder to be a very strong advantage to having it in the lens on these very long focal lengths.   Using a tripod is nice, if you are shooting something that allows it and gives you the time to set it up, but this type lens can be hand held effectively, especially with in lens VC to stabilize the image.

Should we even mention that many NEX users don't have stabilization in their cameras but would like to use this lens?

I didn't like loosing this feature with my 18-270 PZD but bought it anyway.  It becomes even more important at longer focal lengths and this move is a total deal breaker for me--especially when Sigma DOES offer it on similar lenses.

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In reply to SHood, Dec 19, 2013

SHood wrote:

<snip.

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

According to this thread Beach Camera is the scum of the earth:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52649106

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SHood wrote:

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

WOW that's crazy low price for 600mm zoom. I just hope its sharp enough wide open at 600mm. Tack sharp at F8.

Backlit Bison at f5.6 looks not too bad to me.  The f9 shots are crisp.

http://blog.naver.com/sp_marketing/70179201020

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I haven't seen this verification and I'm sure a lot of CanKon users of their VC lenses would strongly disagree.

+1

I believe the image stabilization in the viewfinder to be a very strong advantage to having it in the lens on these very long focal lengths. Using a tripod is nice, if you are shooting something that allows it and gives you the time to set it up, but this type lens can be hand held effectively, especially with in lens VC to stabilize the image.

Should we even mention that many NEX users don't have stabilization in their cameras but would like to use this lens?

+ 1 (actually, all NEX including the FF A7/A7r lack in body IS)

Leaving out OIS from the A Mount versions by third party lens makers is stupid IMHO.

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lehill wrote:

SHood wrote:

<snip.

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

According to this thread Beach Camera is the scum of the earth:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52649106

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Agree.  I don't trust beachcamera.  When I see the price on B&H or Adorama I will know if the price is true.

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SHood wrote:

<snip.

And you can preorder it for $1069.

http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=TMAFA011S700&omid=200&ref=cj

According to this thread Beach Camera is the scum of the earth:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52649106

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I received an e-mail response from Tamron Canada that this lens will have a suggested list for $1299 in Canada. This price is also on Tamron Canada's online site as well as at Henry's (largest camera store in Canada). US pricing is always less for Tamron.

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" it has been demonstrated that OIS does negatively affect IQ " Not sure what you mean by that OS stabilizes the lens so it can be used handheld how can that Negatively affect Image quality , that would be the opposite if it's purpose , When locked in a tripod it does affect the image negatively , The instructions mention to shut it off on Tripod as Sony does Spec that as well of the IS , Also if your body has IS and your lens has Stabilization they should not be used together that could affect IQ .

There have been tests conducted with 2 otherwise identical lenses, one with OIS and one without. The test was conducted on a tripod with all IS systems turned off. The lens with OIS was noticeably less sharp than the one without. This is due to the non rigid-lens that is in the optical path. It only makes sense that such an arrangement would have some negative effect on IQ even with OIS turned off. Of course when hand held the lens performed better with IS turned on but lets face it, very long lenses of 500-600mm should be used on a tripod since even OIS can't perform miracles.

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From my point of view, if you already have the nice Sony 70-400, only good reason to get a another long zoom lens would be to buy a lens with OS (or VC) and Tamron is not giving A-mount users that option with 150-600. That's pure stupidity!

And if you buy the A-mount lens without a OS or VC, you will not get any better image quality than the users with OS in other mounts, because most probably there is still the same optical structure inside the lens. Sigma and Tamron just most likely did not enable it to A-mount users. Isn't that stupid or what?

About a year ago when I was looking for a lens with more than 400 mm's Sigma 50-500 OS was my only real option because I wanted the stabilization working also in my viewfinder. Stabilized viewfinder picture is a big advantage and I'm very happy to use it with my Sigma 50-500.

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dlkeller wrote:

Should we even mention that many NEX users don't have stabilization in their cameras but would like to use this lens?

Certainly not!  The idea A mount lenses should have the extra floating elements and a mechanism to manipulate them introduced to cater for a different mount just because Sony was daft enough to leave IBIS out on Nex is not a compromise I would want to see made to A mount lenses.

Unfortunately with the Tamron  A mount version I suspect the totally unnecessary stabilisation lens group will still be in the optical path and it will just be disabled.  If I am right we won't get a cleaner optical path on the Sony version anyway.

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Leaving out OIS from the A Mount versions by third party lens makers is stupid IMHO.

What was stupid was Sony leaving out IBIS.

A clear case of form over function whereby they went for the very small form factor (which means small batteries and lack of space for IBIS) instead of having cameras that offer stabilisation with every lens you mount in it, even those old screw mount, Lecia M mount or whatever lenses Nex fans like to attach to their cameras.

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