A7/A7R for new customers, or old?

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SQLGuy
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A7/A7R for new customers, or old?
11 months ago

Trying to validate, or invalidate, the theory that most A7/A7R customers are a different demographic from the NEX users that up 'til recently made up the bulk of this forum's members.

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I owned one or more Sony NEX cameras before buying an A7 or A7R
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I owned one or more non-Sony mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras (not including Leica) before buying an A7 or A7R, but had never owned a NEX
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The A7 or A7R is my first mirrorless interchangeable lens camera (pick this option if you bought an A7/A7R and haven't owned any of the non-Leica MILCs)
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In reply to SQLGuy, 11 months ago

Trying to validate, or invalidate, the theory that most A7/A7R customers are a different demographic from the NEX users that up 'til recently made up the bulk of this forum's members.

I would say it is both. As an E-mount user, I am tempted by A7/A7r cameras but can't justify to have a budget to build an appropriate system around them.

At the same time, the duo definitely has the same appeal to owners of cameras from other brands, as NEX cameras and RX1 have had over last three years.

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SQLGuy wrote:

Trying to validate, or invalidate, the theory that most A7/A7R customers are a different demographic from the NEX users that up 'til recently made up the bulk of this forum's members.

New here. Would never have considered Sony were it not for the a7r.

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SQLGuy wrote:

Trying to validate, or invalidate, the theory that most A7/A7R customers are a different demographic from the NEX users that up 'til recently made up the bulk of this forum's members.

I don't like carrying heavy prime lenses to cover wide angle. I've got a very compact Zeiss Contax G 21mm lens on my full frame film camera and the closest thing on the NEX is the 10-18. So I might get a full frame E-mount camera particularly to use this lens with cropping for urban landscape work. As a substitute for a shift wide angle lens.

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In reply to 120 to 35, 11 months ago

I'm thinking there must be more than 15 A7/A7R users on here, judging by the amount of discussion (and the other "Which camera did you end up buying?" poll).

So far (though the sampling is small) the numbers seems to disagree with Captura and ParallaxProblem's theory that the majority of A7/R owners are new to mirrorless.

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In reply to SQLGuy, 11 months ago

How do I answer if:

The primary camera I was shooting just before buying the A7r was a Nikon D800? and,

I have owned a NEX-5N (but no longer own it)?

I answered that I wasn't coming from a NEX, which is certainly true, but not the full story. The A7r is the first camera vaguely related to NEX that I would buy; after experiencing NEX I did not buy the NEX-7 or -6 and wouldn't have bought any other APS-C NEX model.

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In reply to sroute, 11 months ago

Just saw SQLGuy's last post - gathering from your intent that you are wondering how many DSLR-only shooters are coming through.

My guess is that the numbers of "I shot mirrorless before buying an A7/r" whether that was their primary system or not will be fairly high. Given the A7/r cameras have but two lenses available at present, those buying the cameras either have to love kit lenses or fixed 35mm primes, or must be open to adapting other lenses. What user group has more experience with adapting lenses over any other? Mirrorless shooters.

That said the Canon forums (not just here) have lots of talk about the A7r because it gives them something Canon can't deliver, and they can mount their existing lenses. Those folks might not be hanging out in this forum however.

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sroute wrote:

How do I answer if:

The primary camera I was shooting just before buying the A7r was a Nikon D800? and,

I have owned a NEX-5N (but no longer own it)?

I answered that I wasn't coming from a NEX, which is certainly true, but not the full story. The A7r is the first camera vaguely related to NEX that I would buy; after experiencing NEX I did not buy the NEX-7 or -6 and wouldn't have bought any other APS-C NEX model.

Interesting. Yes, I guess you would be more in the 3rd category, as you would be a new customer from Sony's perspective, instead of one who already had bought into their previous product lines.

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In reply to SQLGuy, 11 months ago

SQLGuy wrote:

I'm thinking there must be more than 15 A7/A7R users on here, judging by the amount of discussion (and the other "Which camera did you end up buying?" poll).

So far (though the sampling is small) the numbers seems to disagree with Captura and ParallaxProblem's theory that the majority of A7/R owners are new to mirrorless.

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What about existing A-mount SLT camera owners who bought an A7? The differences between A7 and those cameras are: body size, optional PDAF, lack of IBIS.

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MisterHairy wrote:

SQLGuy wrote:

Trying to validate, or invalidate, the theory that most A7/A7R customers are a different demographic from the NEX users that up 'til recently made up the bulk of this forum's members.

New here. Would never have considered Sony were it not for the a7r.

Same here, I'm coming from DSLR world (Nikon D300) and never considered a Sony before. The A7R will most probably be my next camera. Primary reason for the switch: great image quality combined with lower weight and smaller size.

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I've never considered Sony until the A7/R.

Still haven't bought one as yet but leaning more toward the A7.

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120 to 35 wrote:

SQLGuy wrote:

I'm thinking there must be more than 15 A7/A7R users on here, judging by the amount of discussion (and the other "Which camera did you end up buying?" poll).

So far (though the sampling is small) the numbers seems to disagree with Captura and ParallaxProblem's theory that the majority of A7/R owners are new to mirrorless.

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A7 with kit lens and a number of legacy lenses (mostly Canon FD)

What about existing A-mount SLT camera owners who bought an A7? The differences between A7 and those cameras are: body size, optional PDAF, lack of IBIS.

And different native mount, presence of a mirror...

If you're coming from an A-mount camera, pick the 3rd option.

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There should be one more option because I had both an NEX as well as other mirrorless cameras.

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