Close-up filter for Nikon 55-300 VR?

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Escape
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Close-up filter for Nikon 55-300 VR?
Dec 15, 2013

Any of you tried using close-up filters with a Nikon 55-300 VR lens?

Are these PLR ones any good?

http://www.amazon.com/PLR-Close-Up-Digital-Cameras-55-200mm/dp/B002P9HXMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1387073206&sr=1-2&keywords=close-up+filter

Any other suggestions?

Note: I am not looking to purchase a dedicated macro lens at this time.

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In reply to Escape, Dec 15, 2013

I've only tried a Nikon 6T on  the Nikon 70-300mm VR and it worked very well although not as well as a dedicated macro. With the 6T I got 1:1 with about 10" of working distance.

The Nikon 6T is a discontinued 2 element diopter (a higher quality close up lens). The two element diopters give better results the close up lenses but are also more expensive. I don't know how well the close up lenses will because each brand may have different results.

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In reply to Escape, Dec 16, 2013

Escape wrote:

Any of you tried using close-up filters with a Nikon 55-300 VR lens?

Are these PLR ones any good?

http://www.amazon.com/PLR-Close-Up-Digital-Cameras-55-200mm/dp/B002P9HXMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1387073206&sr=1-2&keywords=close-up+filter

Any other suggestions?

Note: I am not looking to purchase a dedicated macro lens at this time.

Go to Canon 500D filter (an option can be Canon 250D). It is more expensive at USD 90 but I have great results with my version with 77 mm thread. One of the joys in macro is to get sharpness - and low quality lenses, mainly if it has a single element, will be very frustrating.

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In reply to Escape, Dec 16, 2013

Escape wrote:

Any of you tried using close-up filters with a Nikon 55-300 VR lens?

Are these PLR ones any good?

http://www.amazon.com/PLR-Close-Up-Digital-Cameras-55-200mm/dp/B002P9HXMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1387073206&sr=1-2&keywords=close-up+filter

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I've never touched this model of lens so my comments are based on general experience with close-up filters/lenses.

At the $14 price shown, you can expect uncoated, single element close-up lenses.Such sets are OK for discovering whether you like doing close-up photography at a modest cost, but your expectations of optical performance should be quite modest. In particular, you can expect large amounts of chromatic aberration.

In 58mm, either the Canon 500D or the Marumi 330D will run you between $85-$100. Both of these lenses are a big step up from the inexpensive sets, but the concern about buy either one is the same. Close-up lenses are most effective at longer focal distances, and that's where the 55-300mm is the weakest optically. So you may still not get the quality of results you want. Nor would a 58mm close-up lens likely to be a good fit with any upgraded gear you purchase at a later date.

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In reply to Escape, Dec 16, 2013

Escape wrote:

Any of you tried using close-up filters with a Nikon 55-300 VR lens?

Are these PLR ones any good?

http://www.amazon.com/PLR-Close-Up-Digital-Cameras-55-200mm/dp/B002P9HXMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1387073206&sr=1-2&keywords=close-up+filter

Any other suggestions?

Note: I am not looking to purchase a dedicated macro lens at this time.

Another vote for the Canon 500D. I've used it on a 70-300 VR lens. I've also have one of the Nikon diopters (5T or 6T). The Nikons are hard to find. The Canon 500D and 250D are "well respected" diopters. I like the 500D much better than extension tubes as it provides more "distance range" than the tubes. However, it does add more glass - no glass with tubes. I like the magnification the 500D provides.

With the 500D, you could get a 72mm filter size and then buy a few step up rings to use it with a few of your lenses.

With all that said, I love my Sigma 150 f2.8 (non-OS) macrolens. On rare occasions, I will use the 500D on that Sigma lens for increased magnification. The Sigma 150 is also a great medium tele lens.

The Nikon 180 f2.8 and the 500D is a great combo too.

Good luck with your "close-up" decisions.

Wayne

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In reply to dwa1, Dec 16, 2013

Thanks, all!  The 250D has a higher diopter rating than the 500D and can therefore reduce the focusing distance even further, correct?

And yes, the Nikon 55-300 VR is rather soft at 300mm, so i'd have to keep it under that.  I'm trying to figure out if this Nikon 55-300 VR with Canon 250D closeup diopter would give me better closeups than my Sigma 17-70 at 70mm that can focus just inches away from the subject without needing a diopter.  Is there  a way to calculate this somehow?

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Escape wrote:

Thanks, all! The 250D has a higher diopter rating than the 500D and can therefore reduce the focusing distance even further, correct?

And yes, the Nikon 55-300 VR is rather soft at 300mm, so i'd have to keep it under that. I'm trying to figure out if this Nikon 55-300 VR with Canon 250D closeup diopter would give me better closeups than my Sigma 17-70 at 70mm that can focus just inches away from the subject without needing a diopter. Is there a way to calculate this somehow?

You can't calculate this exactly unless you know the exact design of the lenses but I can give you some rough numbers based on the lens specifications. The Sigma is listed as having a maximum magnification of 0.34 while the Nikkor is listed at 0.28. So the Nikkor actually comes pretty close. The Nikkor's minimum focus distance, which is where it gets maximum magnification, is 1.4 meters from the plane of the sensor.

The 250D has a focal length of 250mm. Using the lens equation 1/Do + 1/Di = 1/f and taking Di to be -1200mm, I get a magnification of 5.8X. Combining that with the Nikkor's magnification, I get a net magnification of 1.6X, which is real macro. This will drop if you zoom the lens below 300mm but you should be able to get 1:1 with the lens at 200mm.

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In reply to Escape, Dec 16, 2013

Knowing your "intended use" will allow people to give you more "targeted" feedback.

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In reply to Michael Benveniste, Dec 17, 2013

It so happens I have a set of inexpensive Hoya close-up filters in 52mm that I never bothered to get rid of.  It's probably been 25 years since they saw use, but here's a sample of what you can expect from an inexpensive +4 filter on a consumer zoom, in this case a 75-150mm f/3.5:

D800, 75-150mm f/3.5 @ f/11, +4 Hoya close-up filter, Manually focused (Duh!) with live view.

At the 25% size shown, things look okay.  However, at 100% crop, the CA quickly becomes apparent:

100% crop from above shot.

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