Epson 3880 to 3900

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SEMO
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Epson 3880 to 3900
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Is there anything to the rumors that epson is going to upgrade the 3880 in the first quarter of next year? Possibly a 3900.

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Petruska
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SEMO wrote:

Is there anything to the rumors that epson is going to upgrade the 3880 in the first quarter of next year? Possibly a 3900.

Epson siad there will be new printers in the 1st quarter of 2014 but did no disclose which models. it could be all the super large format, expensive models.....

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Serhat Abaci
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the 3880 is a d**m fine machine by itself there is really no point in upgrading it as a technical aspect. Onliy thing i can think of is:

1.) more Inks: 5~6 shades of black, additional Orange, green,

2.) more media versatile like native roll paper holder

3.) Gloss Optimizer!!

4.) True Matte and Photo Black channel without switching and flushing!

5.) Rip like or pro like epson drivers for better print management

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Serhat Abaci wrote:

the 3880 is a d**m fine machine by itself there is really no point in upgrading it as a technical aspect. Onliy thing i can think of is:

1.) more Inks: 5~6 shades of black, additional Orange, green,

2.) more media versatile like native roll paper holder

3.) Gloss Optimizer!!

4.) True Matte and Photo Black channel without switching and flushing!

5.) Rip like or pro like epson drivers for better print management

I would skip a few meals in order to have that dream printer.
Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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JJ Winkel
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Joe, you are having expensive meals to skip a few only .......

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Joe, you are having expensive meals to skip a few only .......

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Should have said DAILY meals for about a year. LOL!
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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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NeroMetalliko
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Serhat Abaci wrote:

the 3880 is a d**m fine machine by itself there is really no point in upgrading it as a technical aspect. Onliy thing i can think of is:

1.) more Inks: 5~6 shades of black, additional Orange, green,

2.) more media versatile like native roll paper holder

3.) Gloss Optimizer!!

4.) True Matte and Photo Black channel without switching and flushing!

5.) Rip like or pro like epson drivers for better print management

Just having the point 4 alone will be enough for me to trigger it.

Having further added the point 3 could be the cherry on top.

Ciao

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In reply to SEMO, 7 months ago

If they do It will be a 3880 called a 3900

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Serhat Abaci wrote:

the 3880 is a d**m fine machine by itself there is really no point in upgrading it as a technical aspect. Onliy thing i can think of is:

1.) more Inks: 5~6 shades of black, additional Orange, green,

2.) more media versatile like native roll paper holder

3.) Gloss Optimizer!!

4.) True Matte and Photo Black channel without switching and flushing!

5.) Rip like or pro like epson drivers for better print management

The switching and flushing specification has always been the nail in the coffin thing for me as far as the 3880 goes. If Epson's redesigned head eliminates this constraint, then thier next 3880+ will be the dream printing machine.

Season greetings to all and let's hope for a Happy Epson New year

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jtoolman
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In reply to bhill643, 7 months ago

bhill643 wrote:

If they do It will be a 3880 called a 3900

Well they just might do that now that they threw a ton of money on a new print head manufacturing plant. But it's not only the RPO 3880
Their early 2200 R2400 R2880 PRO 3800 and R3000 also shared the same print head channel for Black. Some required a physical change of the MK or PK carts and the R3000 and 3800/3880 allowed you to physically have both blacks installed but still had to do the switch at the liquid level.

They really need to eliminate that system.

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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Cross-breeding R2000 with R3000/Pro 3880
In reply to bhill643, 7 months ago

Actually Epson could use the same chassis of the Pro 3880, but using the R3000 print head (2 pl smallest droplet size instead of 3.5 pl) and combining the ink set of the R3000/Pro 3880 with the R2000, thus eliminating the usage of the light colors (light magenta, light cyan and light light black). By eliminating the light colors, the ink usage will be dramatically reduced. The R2000 can produce very subtile light prints without any visible grains.

Now because of the matte and photo black position can be combined to one channel, this combined space can be used for an extra large (200 ml) gloss optimizer cartridge.

Then you will have:

cartridge 1: Gloss optimizer cartridge  200 ml (sitting on the matte + photo black position)

cartridge 2: Matte Black 80 ml

cartridge 3: Photo Black 80 ml

cartridge 4: Gray (light black) 80 ml

cartridge 5: Vivid Magenta 80 ml

cartridge 6: Orange 80 ml

cartridge 7: Cyan 80 ml

cartridge 8: Yellow 80 ml

So lower ink usage by omitting the light colors, no need to flush the ink channel between matte and photo black (both are loaded: R2000 feature)), extended gamut by using vivid magenta and orange (R2000: normal magenta + orange + red) (R2000 feature), most importantly: grey ink cartridge for neutral ABW-mode (R3000/Pro 3880 feature) and more glossy prints by using a gloss optimizer (R2000 feature). Because the gloss optimizer is heavily used, the combined position large cartridge of 200 ml should suffice for many prints.

The could also supply a CD/DVD-printing tray on this machine as well.

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Craig
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In reply to Apotheker, 7 months ago

bill awesome ideas!

But that makes too much sense.. They want to sell ink! sell ink!.

The money is in the ink..

however maybe they will do something smart, we'll see.

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Apotheker wrote:

Actually Epson could use the same chassis of the Pro 3880, but using the R3000 print head (2 pl smallest droplet size instead of 3.5 pl) and combining the ink set of the R3000/Pro 3880 with the R2000, thus eliminating the usage of the light colors (light magenta, light cyan and light light black). By eliminating the light colors, the ink usage will be dramatically reduced. The R2000 can produce very subtile light prints without any visible grains.

Now because of the matte and photo black position can be combined to one channel, this combined space can be used for an extra large (200 ml) gloss optimizer cartridge.

Then you will have:

cartridge 1: Gloss optimizer cartridge 200 ml (sitting on the matte + photo black position)

cartridge 2: Matte Black 80 ml

cartridge 3: Photo Black 80 ml

cartridge 4: Gray (light black) 80 ml

cartridge 5: Vivid Magenta 80 ml

cartridge 6: Orange 80 ml

cartridge 7: Cyan 80 ml

cartridge 8: Yellow 80 ml

So lower ink usage by omitting the light colors, no need to flush the ink channel between matte and photo black (both are loaded: R2000 feature)), extended gamut by using vivid magenta and orange (R2000: normal magenta + orange + red) (R2000 feature), most importantly: grey ink cartridge for neutral ABW-mode (R3000/Pro 3880 feature) and more glossy prints by using a gloss optimizer (R2000 feature). Because the gloss optimizer is heavily used, the combined position large cartridge of 200 ml should suffice for many prints.

The could also supply a CD/DVD-printing tray on this machine as well.

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I absolutely would love to see this implemented. As much as I would love a PRO-3800/3880 type printer with 12 inks, your arrangement would be perfect and could be implemented perfectly on an existing 3880.

What would it take to implement this with a RIP??

Think about the fact that in the T-Shirt printing industry which has used 3800s R1900s and now the R2000, they have completely replaced the default ink sets for special inks including custom colors like whites and grays. The printers are then driven by RIP software. So it is totally possible to do this.

If only I was smart!

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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In reply to Apotheker, 7 months ago

Amazing all the manipulations to try and replicate what can be done with a dye-based printer on glossy paper.  I would start by developing an ink that can print well on either matte or glossy papers.  And how archival is that gloss optimizer?

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Gesture wrote:

Amazing all the manipulations to try and replicate what can be done with a dye-based printer on glossy paper. I would start by developing an ink that can print well on either matte or glossy papers. And how archival is that gloss optimizer?

I do not think that GLOP helps to improve longevity and do agree that a good DYE printer like the PRO-100 for instance would and could do the same. But a PRO3880 that does not need to switch blacks would still be a great idea.

By the way, the PRO-100 does a great job on Matte and Glossy unlike many other dye ink printers. I am quite thrilled with it.

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/CX7400/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII / PRO-100
My videos!
PRO-100 Printing out of various sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYfoDpKk5Y
PRO-100 Setup and Basic Use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
01 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
02 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
03 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Pro3800 PEM Refill Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
04 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Refilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRr-rUu9hkU&feature=youtu.be
05 Want to refill and reset your OEM PRO 3800 / 3880 Carts? Printing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
Cleaning the Purge Pad and Wiper on the Epson PRO 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzxAm9QtWo
Basic Epson R2000 Maintenance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZU1_XD7xE
Calibrating your monitor and Printing to the R2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2X7MSd-ebE
Refillable 3800 3880 cart sticking problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDi1lhDoWjM
Gloss Optimizing Prints
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRUoUwwSlA
Printing out of Photo Shop to Epson and Canon Printers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV75Ak0R1g
Printing in LR-2 this time to the EPSON R2880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huZ6BlXQqew
Multi Image printing in LR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoJFJVemo8
Basic Printing in Qimage Ultimate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvrEAam6H_U
Canon PGI-9 Cart Refilling by the "Dribble" method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBzHSQx5bU\
Refill Canon PGI 9 via Freedom Method
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgQIWLw10M
Refilling and resetting R2000 China Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2wuzwezxM
Refilling Epson OEM carts - Thorough, Long Winded Version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8QspjBbhk
Taking out the CURL on prints done on from roll paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Zj9dtzeU0
Taking out the Curl - TWO.mpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VataFqqN-Jo
R2000 Push Buttom Reset Carts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYreszSdAM
Creating a Color Profile & Printing on the Canon Pixma PRO 9000 MKII using Color Managent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-jgaJY94
Print Room Visit + Filling and Priming Refillable fro Epson 3800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARPQ74_9N0
Color Management PART 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScojQ7dWAFU
Color Management PART 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqda4F9YlLU
Color Management PART 03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhmkI5EcPbI
Epson Stylus 2200 using refilled OEM carts and Roll attachment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVDIPt_0tU

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hjulenissen
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Re: Cross-breeding R2000 with R3000/Pro 3880
In reply to jtoolman, 5 months ago

jtoolman wrote:

I do not think that GLOP helps to improve longevity and do agree that a good DYE printer like the PRO-100 for instance would and could do the same. But a PRO3880 that does not need to switch blacks would still be a great idea.

By the way, the PRO-100 does a great job on Matte and Glossy unlike many other dye ink printers. I am quite thrilled with it.

Joe

Upscaling the pro-100 price/tech to A2+ and staying within the 3880 size would make for an interesting printer. I'd buy one and Canon would profit from the ink sales.

-h

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