E-PL3 Sensor cover glass broken

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EVAGORAS
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E-PL3 Sensor cover glass broken
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I received an E-PL3 today from ebay, seller claims it was slightly used, only problem the battery door has difficulty to lock and unlock. Anyway it seems the camera must have fell on the floor (reason the battery door has difficulty locking and unlocking.)

The worst however was the sensor cover glass is broken in to two pieces, the seller claims he did not notice that it was broken, before shipping.

My question is is it ok to just remove the two broken pieces of glass, without any consequences that will hinder the performance of the cameras photos.

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Sensor cover? For me it's difficult to get what you mean. Do you have a photo of it?

I am not aware of any glass that covers the sensor.

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I can post a photo tomorrow but I found a similar photo of the problem I have on the internet.

http://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=28093

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Afraid so. It's toast. Try to get your money back.

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EVAGORAS wrote:

I received an E-PL3 today from ebay, seller claims it was slightly used, only problem the battery door has difficulty to lock and unlock. Anyway it seems the camera must have fell on the floor (reason the battery door has difficulty locking and unlocking.)

The worst however was the sensor cover glass is broken in to two pieces, the seller claims he did not notice that it was broken, before shipping.

My question is is it ok to just remove the two broken pieces of glass, without any consequences that will hinder the performance of the cameras photos.

Thanks

If the low-pass filter is removed, it must be replaced with another piece of glass of specific characteristics. The low-pass filter is also an IR filter.

Return the camera for a refund. If the impact was hard enoug to shatter the AA filter, there is likely other serious damage.

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It's broken. You're getting robbed if you don't return it.

Tech speculation. An exposed silicon sensor  like that will quickly attract dust which the Oly dust buster cannot remove as it shakes the cover not the sensor.  Also, moisture and humidity will kill it eventually.

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Thanks for all your replies,

I have contacted the seller, and we have come to an agreement to get a refund for the body and just keep the lens.

In the mean time does anybody know if I can purchase a E-PL3 sensor cover and replace it myself??

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Removing or changing the low pass filter in front of the sensor is usually a very complicated operation. It normally requires stripping down the whole camera, from the rear. So unless you know what you are doing, this is just not possible for you to do yourself.

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baxters wrote:

It's broken. You're getting robbed if you don't return it.

Tech speculation. An exposed silicon sensor like that will quickly attract dust which the Oly dust buster cannot remove as it shakes the cover not the sensor. Also, moisture and humidity will kill it eventually.

so you're saying that when we talk about dust or pollen "on the sensor", or "sensor cleaning", we're actually talking about the protective glass in front of it? then i have to wonder why these parts are not easily replaceable - once they become contaminated or smeared beyond cleaning, we should be able to put a new one in ourselves.

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I believe the filter is one of the more expensive parts of the camera and must be carefully aligned to do its job properly.

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How much would it cost if Olympus would repair it? If the cost is not to high, it still may be worthwhile.

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I very much doubt that you will find that it is economically repairable.

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and what it is not just filter but more internals broken?

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agentul wrote:

baxters wrote:

It's broken. You're getting robbed if you don't return it.

Tech speculation. An exposed silicon sensor like that will quickly attract dust which the Oly dust buster cannot remove as it shakes the cover not the sensor. Also, moisture and humidity will kill it eventually.

so you're saying that when we talk about dust or pollen "on the sensor", or "sensor cleaning", we're actually talking about the protective glass in front of it? then i have to wonder why these parts are not easily replaceable - once they become contaminated or smeared beyond cleaning, we should be able to put a new one in ourselves.

Good point - Agentul!

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How much would it cost if Olympus would repair it? If the cost is not to high, it still may be worthwhile.

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In the USA, per their repair page, flat rate of $159.99 to repair an EPL1.  Still 2X what a body is worth, although you get 3 months warranty on the repair.

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EVAGORAS wrote:

agentul wrote:

baxters wrote:

It's broken. You're getting robbed if you don't return it.

Tech speculation. An exposed silicon sensor like that will quickly attract dust which the Oly dust buster cannot remove as it shakes the cover not the sensor. Also, moisture and humidity will kill it eventually.

so you're saying that when we talk about dust or pollen "on the sensor", or "sensor cleaning", we're actually talking about the protective glass in front of it? then i have to wonder why these parts are not easily replaceable - once they become contaminated or smeared beyond cleaning, we should be able to put a new one in ourselves.

Good point - Agentul!

Then how would they force you to buy a new camera once it fails outside warranty? 

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Then how would they force you to buy a new camera once it fails outside warranty?

well, first of all i was referring to the glass covering the sensor (color filter or not, i think a solution could be found to make it replaceable). so replacing this only covers a limited number of scenarios, most of which are probably solved today by sending the camera to be serviced. it would be similar to user-replaceable BIOS chips that certain motherboards have (or had?). I had one like that, and I had to replace the chip after flashing the BIOS with the wrong firmware accidentally. that did not stop me from upgrading to a newer model a few years later.

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These are cool, at least to this engineer.

The cover glass is the round piece. From fareastgizmos.com

Three phillips screws and it's off! Of course, you have to take the whole camera apart to get here.

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I finally got from the seller a partial refund for the broken camera.

I have now put the camera back on ebay as spares or repairs.

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Thanks for all your replies,

I have contacted the seller, and we have come to an agreement to get a refund for the body and just keep the lens.

In the mean time does anybody know if I can purchase a E-PL3 sensor cover and replace it myself??

sorry, I would not trust even the glass if I was you.

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