Return D5200 to get D5300? Yay or nay???

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Return D5200 to get D5300? Yay or nay???
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Wow... Steve comments and overall very positive feedback from D5300 users made me think very hard about returning my D5200 kit (18-140mm glass, extra battery and bag for $799CDN). I have a return option until January 5, 2014 (holiday return policy) to local Best Buy. The D5300 kit (with 18-140mm glass only) is currently $1199CDN and I have seen it for as low as $999CDN. There is good chance it will go on sale for $800-$900 ballpark during end of the year sales or in the near future. So my question to you guys is should I return D5200 or keep it.

This is my first DSLR (I’ve always wanted one) to capture precious moments with my 2 active boys (5 and 8 years old in hockey/ soccer).

I’ve had D5200 for 2 weeks now or so and overall I like it a lot. The 18-140mm lens is good enough even for my son’s hockey games, where photo conditions are very demanding.
I would use it for my kids school events, social party, family trips… etc. Also I would like to try some night shooting. I’m still a very nooble and there is still plenty to learn, even basic stuff.

My wife is anti-DSLR, she thinks it is too bulky and don’t need it. We already have decent p&s in Canon S100 which you can slip in your packets wherever we go…
However I’ve always wanted to go into DSRL, not sure how deep, but entry level camera such as D5xxx would be a good enough for me (at least for a little while).

Saying all this I can’t do like some peeps on this forms do buy and re-sell… Hence whatever I buy it will have to serve me for good several years.

My plan is to add 35mm 1.8G glass in the near future and maybe bigger zoom lens later (later on). Maybe I will add a flash and external mic (both very low on my wish list)

From the new D5300 what I like the most is better IQ (based on other opinion) and to some degree improved 1080P@60Hz video. I still find it awkward to shoot video with DSLR. It is so much easier with canon S100. I don’t really care about wifi or GPS. Improved higher rez screen is nice, so is better battery life.

I was thinking about D7xxx, although better IQ, it is bulkier and even more $$$....

So what do you guys think? keep D5200 or go for D5300 for a little $$$ more… ???

Please advise…

BTW. I'm planning to shoot in JPEG mode most of the time. For PP I will use NXView or Gimp.

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In reply to amd111, 7 months ago

I would keep the D5200.

You got a great deal on it.

If you have extra cash to spend get a wide-angle lens like the Tokina 12-28 (around $700 in Canada), or a mid-range flash like the SB-700 or the Metz 52, or a good tripod.

If all you want is better video get a purpose-built video camera like the Panasonic HCX920.

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I think the main reason to get a 5300 if you own a 5200 is if you want the GPS and WiFi. If that doesn't matter then the cost difference probably is not justified. Both have good image quality and the differences are the type you need to setup laboratory like conditions in order to notice and quantify. I understand the desire to own the latest thing ( I too own a 5200 ) but unless there are significantly needed features the upgrade is just not justified.
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In reply to amd111, 7 months ago

If wi-fi and gps connectivity is important to you, then you may opt for the d5300 as perhaps these features are the major differentiator.  The d5300 has a newer processing engine EXPEED 4 and no AA-filter.  Whether these features translate to a more visible better IQ, someone who perhaps made a comparison would be in a position to chime in and let us know.

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The D5300 . . . and almost 1 stop better in low light. At ISOs lower than 6400 you will never see a difference. I would keep your D5200 - it is a great bargain.

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Keep the D5200, it's a great camera.  Get a refurb D5300 next year when you've learned how to use a DSLR.

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Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

I’m planning on picking up HB-35 hood and replace Hoya 67mm UV(c) with Nikon 67mm NC filter (as per many users recommendation) before I go for my family trip to DR this weekend. I know shooting naked is preferred but with 2 kids around me and myself DSLR noobie I want to protect 18-140mm as much as possible… LOL

Also for the money I save I might grab Nikon 35mm 1.8G lens sooner than later, not only to play with it but it would allow me to test trully AF on my D5200. With some many complains about back AF issues hampering D5xxx and D7xxx line. I would rather take my chances on new kit package than sending it away to Nikon Service Center for AF adjstment (another city).

thanks GUYS !!!

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"Also for the money I save I might grab Nikon 35mm 1.8G lens sooner than later, not only to play with it but it would allow me to test trully AF on my D5200. With some many complains about back AF issues hampering D5xxx and D7xxx line. I would rather take my chances on new kit package than sending it away to Nikon Service Center for AF adjstment (another city)."

13 Nikon bodies later I've never had front/back/misfocus "issues".  Rumors like that sure can scare a newbie can't they?

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"Also for the money I save I might grab Nikon 35mm 1.8G lens sooner than later, not only to play with it but it would allow me to test trully AF on my D5200. With some many complains about back AF issues hampering D5xxx and D7xxx line. I would rather take my chances on new kit package than sending it away to Nikon Service Center for AF adjstment (another city)."

13 Nikon bodies later I've never had front/back/misfocus "issues".  Rumors like that sure can scare a newbie can't they?

There are at least 5 threads alone on the main page alone about it and YES I'm a newbie... and yes I'm scared of having a bad copy... LOL

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amd111 wrote:

toomanycanons wrote:

"Also for the money I save I might grab Nikon 35mm 1.8G lens sooner than later, not only to play with it but it would allow me to test trully AF on my D5200. With some many complains about back AF issues hampering D5xxx and D7xxx line. I would rather take my chances on new kit package than sending it away to Nikon Service Center for AF adjstment (another city)."

13 Nikon bodies later I've never had front/back/misfocus "issues". Rumors like that sure can scare a newbie can't they?

There are at least 5 threads alone on the main page alone about it and YES I'm a newbie... and yes I'm scared of having a bad copy... LOL

Don't be afraid.  Don't be very afraid.  I never am, works for me.

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amd111 wrote:

Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

Get the 5300. In addition to all the good being said about it in other threads, it uses Expeed4; Nikon's fastest. Considering that today's cameras are basically special purpose computers, it matters a lot: helps with everything (from image processing to AF).

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The D5300 . . . and almost 1 stop better in low light. At ISOs lower than 6400 you will never see a difference. I would keep your D5200 - it is a great bargain.

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Steve,

is there a source for this information about the low-light capabilities of the D5300 (I suppose you´re referring to the high-ISO performance of the D5300)?

Today I downloaded and installed ACR 8.3 and processed a bunch of test images at 25.600iso from D5300 and D7100, and came to a rather mixed picture. On another thread I posted this already, so I´ll just copy from there:

DXO numbers indicate an even better iso-performance of the D5300 than D7100/5200. However, I noticed a few things:

a) Without any noise reduction, D5300 shows more chroma noise, in particular red blotches

b) With slight noise reduction, chroma noise clears up visibly better in D5300 than in D7100/5200

c) Having said that, D5300 shows considerable color bleed using the chroma noise slider in ACR beyond a certain point

d) Detail retention was worse in D5300 at highest iso. While the noise seems to dissolve better with noise reduction in ACR, objects seemed to "disintegrate", while D7100/5200 did an amazing job "keeping things together" (for lack of a better word)

e) Banding/pattern noise is completely absent in D5300, no matter how much you torture RAW files in PP. D7100/5200 show banding at high/highest iso in dark areas.

f) At higher (highest) iso, D5300 images tend to look dull and grayed out in darker areas, which means I´d use the black slider in ACR quite a bit with the D5300.

g) Overall, iso-performance of the D5300 seems to be in between D3200 and D7100/5200.

So, to me it´s a mixed bag concerning iso performance of the D5300. Testimages taken of color checkers and other flat objects can be wonderfully low in noise, but do not tell you much about more 3-dimensional objects with fine detail.

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Gucio,

Very good point. If I can get the 18-140mm kit for $900CDN ($100 more than what I got D5200 for) before January 5, 2014 (return date) I might pull the trigger. No doubt extra speed would help, 1080P@60 and wi-fi would welcome addition.

Cheers,
Martin

I really like G5xxx size and it is

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Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

Get the 5300. In addition to all the good being said about it in other threads, it uses Expeed4; Nikon's fastest. Considering that today's cameras are basically special purpose computers, it matters a lot: helps with everything (from image processing to AF).

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amd111 wrote:

Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

Get the 5300. In addition to all the good being said about it in other threads, it uses Expeed4; Nikon's fastest. Considering that today's cameras are basically special purpose computers, it matters a lot: helps with everything (from image processing to AF).

So at the end I did return D5200 with 18-140mm. I like 1080p60, wifi (remote trigger) and faster CPU on D5300.  Now I will have to wait for some D5300 deals to come...   No big rush for me as there are no events coming up and my current s100 can do its job.
I did also play with D7100 at the store, very nice camera but it felt too bulky/heavy and probably an overkill for my needs.

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amd111 wrote:

gucio33 wrote:

amd111 wrote:

Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

Get the 5300. In addition to all the good being said about it in other threads, it uses Expeed4; Nikon's fastest. Considering that today's cameras are basically special purpose computers, it matters a lot: helps with everything (from image processing to AF).

So at the end I did return D5200 with 18-140mm. I like 1080p60, wifi (remote trigger) and faster CPU on D5300. Now I will have to wait for some D5300 deals to come... No big rush for me as there are no events coming up and my current s100 can do its job.
I did also play with D7100 at the store, very nice camera but it felt too bulky/heavy and probably an overkill for my needs.

Well, if having no DSLR is not critical in your photog life and an S100 point and shoot will work in the meantime, heck yeah, no big rush for sure.  Me, I shoot over 1000 shots a week with my D5200, a camera I absolutely have to have for my photog life.  To each his own.

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toomanycanons wrote:

amd111 wrote:

gucio33 wrote:

amd111 wrote:

Thanks for your quick feedback. Unless someone really stirs me away from D5200 or I will see some crazy deal for D5300 kit with 18-140mm glass I will stick with it.

Get the 5300. In addition to all the good being said about it in other threads, it uses Expeed4; Nikon's fastest. Considering that today's cameras are basically special purpose computers, it matters a lot: helps with everything (from image processing to AF).

So at the end I did return D5200 with 18-140mm. I like 1080p60, wifi (remote trigger) and faster CPU on D5300. Now I will have to wait for some D5300 deals to come... No big rush for me as there are no events coming up and my current s100 can do its job.
I did also play with D7100 at the store, very nice camera but it felt too bulky/heavy and probably an overkill for my needs.

Well, if having no DSLR is not critical in your photog life and an S100 point and shoot will work in the meantime, heck yeah, no big rush for sure.  Me, I shoot over 1000 shots a week with my D5200, a camera I absolutely have to have for my photog life.  To each his own.

I've only had D5200 (my first DSLR) for 4 weeks or so, and I already few times was trying to use non-existing EVF on s100... LOL...   i miss it already...

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I had a D5200 for a month and really liked it. Tested it quite a bit for stills and video. The only thing I really wanted more was to have 60p for smooth slomo. So, since I was still in my return period I took the D5200 back and waited for the D5300.

Having now played/tested the D5300 for a month... I'd say keep the D5200. I'm not saying that because I don't like the D5300. I actually love it. It's a bit smaller, lighter, slightly bigger and sharper LCD screen, wifi will come in handy but I was fine using my iPad camera connection kit. I don't care about GPS either.

I didn't think the FPN was that big a deal on the D5200, so it wasn't a deal breaker for me.

All in all... given the price difference.... if you're not specifically interested in doing smooth slo-mo at 60P, nor care about GPS/WiFi, I'd say keep the D5200.

Oops! Just read you already took the D5200 back. Well, you'll enjoy the D5300 if you liked the D5200 for sure. I could still return mine at BestBuy and get a deal on a D5200, but the benefits cited with the D5300 are worth the extra $ for my specific needs. Enjoy!

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There's probably just one or two things that could have swayed me towards the D5300 vs. D5200 - and that is the larger viewfinder and 1080p 50fps capability.

Other than that they are more or less the same.

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vagtanklan wrote:

There's probably just one or two things that could have swayed me towards the D5300 vs. D5200 - and that is the larger viewfinder and 1080p 50fps capability.

Other than that they are more or less the same.

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What larger viewfinder?

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vagtanklan wrote:

There's probably just one or two things that could have swayed me towards the D5300 vs. D5200 - and that is the larger viewfinder and 1080p 50fps capability.

Other than that they are more or less the same.

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What larger viewfinder?

D5300 viewfinder > D5200 viewfinder

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