What The 'L' ...

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Lloydy
Lloydy Forum Pro • Posts: 18,890
What The 'L' ...
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... Interesting seeing the age old debate rage.

However, if you are interested, I only ever shoot L size and am very happy with the results 

Examples here :

HS50 EXR

HS30 EXR

X-E1

XF1

XF1 Chinatown

XF1 Fresh Produce

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Cheers, Dave

Elyharbour
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Or of course we could all go SONY and get in-camera multiframe HDR at high res !! Whoops sorry, I'm blacklisted now 

But seriously, I'm inclined to agree with you for everyday shooting. What I still have to find out for myself is whether pulling back the highlights in PP can match the EXR DR mode. Right now I still favour the latter for high DR scenes, but I'm just at the start of my EXR journey so much to do.

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DickyAus Senior Member • Posts: 1,531
Re: What The 'L' ...

Elyharbour wrote:

Or of course we could all go SONY and get in-camera multiframe HDR at high res !! Whoops sorry, I'm blacklisted now

But seriously, I'm inclined to agree with you for everyday shooting. What I still have to find out for myself is whether pulling back the highlights in PP can match the EXR DR mode. Right now I still favour the latter for high DR scenes, but I'm just at the start of my EXR journey so much to do.

I will keep trying both for a while; I only found out from Orion's thread how to lock in 8MP so I will give it a fair go, I still can't make up my mind. I have a lot to learn about PP and RAW though - I find it hard to improve on Fuji's Jpegs. I also have little success with high ISO and get few keepers above 400.

EXR JPG 16:9 M re-sized only.

PP from RAW of the above image. I wanted to retain the blue sky but couldn't quite get it right.

ISO 3200 from RAW - just plain ugly!

Onward, onward, ever onward!

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DickyAus Senior Member • Posts: 1,531
Re: What The 'L' ...

Lloydy wrote:

... Interesting seeing the age old debate rage.

However, if you are interested, I only ever shoot L size and am very happy with the results

Examples here :

HS50 EXR

HS30 EXR

X-E1

XF1

XF1 Chinatown

XF1 Fresh Produce

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Cheers, Dave

Enjoyed your galleries  - some beautiful photos Dave, thanks for sharing. It looks like we will be touring Myanmar and Cambodia in March so I will look forward to browsing some street markets with the HS50.

Best regards,

Dicky.

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Elyharbour
Elyharbour Senior Member • Posts: 1,515
Re: What The 'L' ...

DickyAus wrote:

I will keep trying both for a while; I only found out from Orion's thread how to lock in 8MP so I will give it a fair go, I still can't make up my mind. I have a lot to learn about PP and RAW though - I find it hard to improve on Fuji's Jpegs. I also have little success with high ISO and get few keepers above 400.

There's the problem - RAW on 2/3 EXR sensor files. I'm reasonably proficient at PP in RAW with Sony and X-Trans (X20) files, but it's hard enough to match the OOC JPEGs on the latter, with the XF1 EXR sensor it's so far proved impossible. So, any pulling back of the HLs will have to be in JPEG right now...and that's why I'll default to EXR DR 6MP mode for the time being for high DR scenes.

However, I find my XF1 images rather soft, and HR mode is better, so I'm going to run with this  for regular low DR scenes and shift to EXR DR for the more difficult ones. I really don't feel a "one size fits all" policy is the best for me, at least not until I figure-out how to process the RAWs. Just my approach - I'm not suggesting this is "right way" for everybody.

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Lloydy
Lloydy OP Forum Pro • Posts: 18,890
Elyharbour ...

... I've had EXR cameras for more than four years. The first was the F200 EXR purchased in July 2009. I also have the HS30 EXR, HS50 EXR, XF1 and X-E1.

I've experimented with all the settings and now simply use L size, Astia, Raw+Jpeg, DR200%, -0.3EV, ISO Auto on them all. And, AF Tracking if the camera has it.

This combination gives excellent DR latitude, good colour and fast and accurate focusing. It is simple and provides the required latitude in almost all shooting situations.

That being said, use the settings you feel comfortable with and simply enjoy your camera.

Elyharbour wrote:

Or of course we could all go SONY and get in-camera multiframe HDR at high res !! Whoops sorry, I'm blacklisted now

But seriously, I'm inclined to agree with you for everyday shooting. What I still have to find out for myself is whether pulling back the highlights in PP can match the EXR DR mode. Right now I still favour the latter for high DR scenes, but I'm just at the start of my EXR journey so much to do.

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Cheers, Dave

Me Tarzan
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Re: What The 'L' ...

Dave, I had to chuckle over the title of your thread. 'what the l'. lol

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Frank

Lloydy
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Dicky ...

... Thanks for the comment. Hope you really enjoy your trip.

DickyAus wrote:

Lloydy wrote:

... Interesting seeing the age old debate rage.

However, if you are interested, I only ever shoot L size and am very happy with the results

Examples here :

HS50 EXR

HS30 EXR

X-E1

XF1

XF1 Chinatown

XF1 Fresh Produce

-- hide signature --

Cheers, Dave

Enjoyed your galleries - some beautiful photos Dave, thanks for sharing. It looks like we will be touring Myanmar and Cambodia in March so I will look forward to browsing some street markets with the HS50.

Best regards,

Dicky.

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Cheers, Dave

jcmarfilph Veteran Member • Posts: 7,592
Re: What The 'L' ...

Lloydy wrote:

... Interesting seeing the age old debate rage.

However, if you are interested, I only ever shoot L size and am very happy with the results

Examples here :

HS50 EXR

HS30 EXR

X-E1

XF1

XF1 Chinatown

XF1 Fresh Produce

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Cheers, Dave

Fantastic collection Dave. And yes, "What the 'L'" to those who are not using LSize.

-=[ Joms ]=-

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Lloydy
Lloydy OP Forum Pro • Posts: 18,890
Frank ...

... Levity is good for the soul 

Me Tarzan wrote:

Dave, I had to chuckle over the title of your thread. 'what the l'. lol

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Frank

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Lloydy
Lloydy OP Forum Pro • Posts: 18,890
Joms ...

... Thanks for the comments.

jcmarfilph wrote:

Lloydy wrote:

... Interesting seeing the age old debate rage.

However, if you are interested, I only ever shoot L size and am very happy with the results

Examples here :

HS50 EXR

HS30 EXR

X-E1

XF1

XF1 Chinatown

XF1 Fresh Produce

-- hide signature --

Cheers, Dave

Fantastic collection Dave. And yes, "What the 'L'" to those who are not using LSize.

-=[ Joms ]=-

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Cheers, Dave

KJaay Senior Member • Posts: 5,075
Re: What The 'L' ...

You sure no how to use that  L  on more one cam, some beautiful images!

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KJ

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Lloydy
Lloydy OP Forum Pro • Posts: 18,890
KJ ...

... Many thanks for your comment. Pleased you liked them.

KJaay wrote:

You sure no how to use that L on more one cam, some beautiful images!

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KJ

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