What don’t you like about your otherwise lovely m4/3s camera(s)

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Trevor Carpenter
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What don’t you like about your otherwise lovely m4/3s camera(s)
Dec 11, 2013

I'm interested to see if there are common moans about each camera model but also across models

Three things only please

Panasonic G6

  1. Too easy to switch on functions that you don’t want by pressing buttons that you don’t mean to.
  2. Very slow start up from sleep, I’ve missed a lot of shots from that
  3. The excellent focusing ability drops off very quickly in diminishing light, I’m talking outdoors. Might be a lens issue but I thing the camera is responsible as well.
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Re: I have nothing to moan
In reply to Trevor Carpenter, Dec 11, 2013

Stupid thread anyway. For me m4/3 is the perfect system. No real complaints.

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Re: What don’t you like about your otherwise lovely m4/3s camera(s)
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E-M5

1. Mushy tactile feel of some buttons on the back (mainly the directional navigation buttons).

2. EVF feels like it's lacking clarity.

3. Battery life could be better.

Color and clarity results from 12-50mm aren't bad, but somehow the 40-150mm lens gives me more pleasing results.  But that's lens, not camera, though they all came in the same package.

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Trevor Carpenter wrote:

I'm interested to see if there are common moans about each camera model but also across models

Three things only please

Panasonic G6

  1. Too easy to switch on functions that you don’t want by pressing buttons that you don’t mean to.
  2. Very slow start up from sleep, I’ve missed a lot of shots from that
  3. The excellent focusing ability drops off very quickly in diminishing light, I’m talking outdoors. Might be a lens issue but I thing the camera is responsible as well.
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1.) study pressing buttons in the dark, will help you press the right buttons, alternatively get a bigger camera with more space around the buttons.

2) Switch off sleep mode if it bothers you.

3) Carry a flashlight. Funny but cameras do have problems if there is insufficient light because low contrast is not very helpful with CDAF. Sometimes the AF light works if the subject is near, otherwise use MF.

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In reply to Trevor Carpenter, Dec 11, 2013

Now I use triggers or clip on and line of sight, not really a shortcoming as much as a non feature.

seems like with each generation of cameras though the list gets shorter, ie faster shutter lower and higher ISO capabilities, and flash sync speeds.

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Way back I had a thread named "8 things I don't like about my E-PL5" and I think it expanded to 10 things, lost in mists of time now so no matter....

But now I just Lurve it, buying a second E-PL5 body soon, maybe in post Christmas sales nonsense period if the prices are low enough.

So had to think really hard, (painful for me this early in the morning). Three items only, eh?

E-PL5

1. Mode dial too easy to bump, make it as stiff as the excellent E-PL1 Mode dial and I would be a happy bunny.

2. Need more MySets, 4 is way too few, need enough to fill the whole Mode dial, need a way to name them and save and restore them from card. Make that one glorious item.

3. Make a bright yellow body so I really look like a dumb tourist. Silver is too bland.

Really had to think hard for a third item to list.

General M4/3 wish list (while I'm here).

1. Global shutter.

2. LCD that can be easily seen under all lighting conditions.

3. See Item 2. in E-PL5 complaint list.

That's all folks !

Regards.... Guy

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nt)E-M1 Grip design, OM-D in general no articulating screen.
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The fact that Olympus Australia seem incapable of actually supplying cameras to NZ whilst in other countries people are walking in and buying them from stock!

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Trevor Carpenter wrote:

I'm interested to see if there are common moans about each camera model but also across models

Three things only please

Panasonic G6

  1. Too easy to switch on functions that you don’t want by pressing buttons that you don’t mean to.
  2. Very slow start up from sleep, I’ve missed a lot of shots from that
  3. The excellent focusing ability drops off very quickly in diminishing light, I’m talking outdoors. Might be a lens issue but I thing the camera is responsible as well.
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On my GX1, too easy to switch the ISO...I think my thumb hits the ISO button, and somehow the touchscreen activates 10000 ISO.  Had that happen more than once.

Have a similar problem with my GH1 where AWB gets sets to something other than AWB without my apparent knowledge.

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In reply to Trevor Carpenter, Dec 11, 2013

Okay, you did ask, so the following may contain negative points...

(1) Big delays reviewing or scrolling through images when fully zoomed-in if any of them are taken on portrait mode - complete amateur hour stuff. Panasonic really don't seem to care. (I'm guessing the hardware works in landscape mode and they have to bodge it for portrait mode.)

(2) Noise reduction artifacts visible at Base ISO.

(3) Way way too much moire on video, however flat you go (although the only non-video specific cameras that don't have this problem are the 5DmkIII and the Sony RX range, so not atypical).

(4) Too many annoying gaps in the lens range (okay, so an m43 issue not GH3, and almost a given for any new system, but still an annoying issue).

(5) Iffy EVF optics.

(6) No ETC in 50p/60p video modes (so lame).

(7) No focus peaking.

(8) Electronic shutter too slow (1/10 sec) to cope with much subject movement.

(9) iOS App is a right royal pain to use. With tiny picture icons too. (Okay, again more a Panasonic issue than a GH3 one, but affects GH3 owners, like the lens one).

I would add that if you don't disable touch screen focus point movement it is way too easy to find it stuck in a corner when you need to urgently take a photo. But maybe that's just me. (It's disabled now, hence no number in front of this para.)

I can live with or work around the issues, other than the video moire performance, which bites me too often, although also important to wait 3 secs when checking the sharpness of an image you've taken in portrait mode, as won't see the real image until then, but overall it's a good piece of kit and I'm happy to own one.

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EM 5.  Love the camera but I hate hate hate the menu system.  I am able to use it but it is just soooo complex and layered.  Too bad Oly can design a great camera and cannot design an acceptable menu system.  Because of this, I am never totally comfortable with this camera.  When my wife is not looking, I will sell it and either get the GX 7 or Fufifilm E-X2.

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In reply to Trevor Carpenter, Dec 11, 2013

Trevor Carpenter wrote:

I'm interested to see if there are common moans about each camera model but also across models

Three things only please

Panasonic G6

  1. Too easy to switch on functions that you don’t want by pressing buttons that you don’t mean to.
  2. Very slow start up from sleep, I’ve missed a lot of shots from that
  3. The excellent focusing ability drops off very quickly in diminishing light, I’m talking outdoors. Might be a lens issue but I thing the camera is responsible as well.
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What I don't like can be seen from my wishes.

1. Sensors with less noise at ISO 100 - 1600

2. SENSORS WITH LESS NOISE AT ISO 100 - 1600

3. G2/G6 like grips

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Re: What don’t you like about your otherwise lovely m4/3s camera(s)
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Olympus E-PL5

1. Control dial is much too sensitive (even after firmware update)

2. Articulating LCD hinges seem a bit loose - not sure about longevity

3. Movie record button is easy to accidentally press

I have lots of great things to say about the little E-PL5 and had to think a while to come up with a 3rd gripe.

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In reply to Trevor Carpenter, Dec 11, 2013

Buttons to small, to easy to switch something, no articulating screen.

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Major gripe with E-PL5:

1.  No wine cork screw

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Re: What don’t you like about your otherwise lovely m4/3s camera(s)
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I've got too many danged lenses, but I like them all, and can't bring myself to sell any!

And they keep making new lenses that I want to buy.

Please, stop the insanity.

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Re: E-PL5 .... more wining.
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kitsap2 wrote:

Major gripe with E-PL5:

1. No wine cork screw

Hey, in Oz that is solved now, all the wine has screw caps, and is way more reliable than corks, plus way easier to open. And also easier to close, but that never happens. Glug, glug.

Regards.... Guy

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MPA1 wrote:

The fact that Olympus Australia seem incapable of actually supplying cameras to NZ whilst in other countries people are walking in and buying them from stock!

Oh, is somebody still there? I thought that you had all moved to Australia.

Regards... Guy

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It's not here yet. Waiting on the mailman.

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The rubber eye cup of my G1 is a bit loose on one side.

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