The reasons I bought the NEX 6

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The reasons I bought the NEX 6
Dec 11, 2013

Just came back from a fishing trip to Perth, Australia. Very happy with my NEX 6. It fits my needs for decent IQ in a small package with an EVF. Given all the fishing equipment I can't take lots of camera gear. The following travel kit suited my needs perfectly:

* NEX6

* PZ 16-50 - great travel compact zoom especially for daytime use

* SEL35f18 - for better image quality, low light and shallow depth of field

* Polerising filter

* spare battery (I never ran out during a day) spare SD cards, lenspen, cloth and remote.

* Ultrapod (small tripod) I never used it this trip.

* All (except for ultra pod) fits into the small Lowpro Streamline 100 bag…brilliant! And all goes into the carry on luggage and then the fishing bag when on the boat.

Down side: I put the camera in auto mode and pop up the flash to hand to friends so they can take a picture but the fill flash did not cope well with the strong light and the shaded faces. Maybe spot metering in A mode woule be better?

Constructive comments/critique welcome on the pix

Did not use the lens correction here because I like the curve of the horizon.

Most processed in Lightroom.

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In reply to rodderslw, Dec 11, 2013

You got some good shots there rodderslw.  It also looks like you had a good day of fishing.  Good going.

There's been lots of positive feedback on the nex 6 here lately.  I think that's a good thing because this is an e-mount forum - both FF and APS-C should be able to share the same space and our love of photography.

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I'm a full frame Nikon guy, but wanted a pocket sized camera with at least an APS-C size sensor and after lots of research and holding lots of cameras, I also decided on a Nex-6 and I'm glad I did. I also got a Fotodiox Pro adapter that allows me to use all my Nikon lenses manually if I want to.  Nex-6 - in the pocket!

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Experiment a little with the built in flash as a fill flash. In bright sunlight you'll probably have to increase the flash intensity. You can increase it up to +2 EVF, which is often (not always) enough.

You may want to experiment with decreasing the EV of your basic exposure at the same time you increase the EV of the flash. Play around with different settings, before you go on your next boat trip. That way, you won't have to fiddle too much while you're on the boat.

If you have an external flash which is able to function as a slave flash, the built in flash can trigger your external flash. But first, experiment with increasing the intensity of the built in one.

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Nice shots there, i really love the dog photo:) The Nex-6 should keep you company for a long while. Good choice with the 35mm F/1.8 OSS, it is really great and sharp.

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Terrific work! You show off your ability and this camera very well indeed!

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bill hansen wrote:

Experiment a little with the built in flash as a fill flash. In bright sunlight you'll probably have to increase the flash intensity. You can increase it up to +2 EVF, which is often (not always) enough.

You may want to experiment with decreasing the EV of your basic exposure at the same time you increase the EV of the flash. Play around with different settings, before you go on your next boat trip. That way, you won't have to fiddle too much while you're on the boat.

If you have an external flash which is able to function as a slave flash, the built in flash can trigger your external flash. But first, experiment with increasing the intensity of the built in one.

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Cheers Bill, appreciate the feedback.Yes I will try upping the flash power and decreasing the EV. I will check if this can be done in auto mode because when fishing I often need to hand the camera to friends so auto mode is handy. A slave flash (which I have) is not an option in this case.

In ref to the other comments about praise for the NEX6 I admit I posted in part because I felt there needed to be some balance to all the FF hype. I think APSC has a lot of further potential to acheive high IQ in a small format. At the same time I don't want to fall into the consumer trap of buying a new camera system every year. In fact I was relativley happy with my C3 until it was stolen.

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"Down side: I put the camera in auto mode and pop up the flash to hand to friends so they can take a picture but the fill flash did not cope well with the strong light and the shaded faces. Maybe spot metering in A mode woule be better?"

I wonder if using HDR would help with the shadowed areas?

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captura wrote:

"Down side: I put the camera in auto mode and pop up the flash to hand to friends so they can take a picture but the fill flash did not cope well with the strong light and the shaded faces. Maybe spot metering in A mode woule be better?"

I wonder if using HDR would help with the shadowed areas?

It would, but it's not a good idea to use that mode when giving to friends, as it needs to be held still for 3 photos.

Be sure DRO is turned on. It will brighten shadows. Otherwise, try RAW and have more leeway in making adjustments.

Normally, the built in flash works well for fill for me, but maybe it's too bright on the water like that?

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I agree, the NEX-6 is a great compromise.  With the 16-50 it's compact with decent range.  Having a viewfinder in bright light is a real plus.  I  didn't realize it until after I purchased the camera that is has some really nice advanced features like AF adjust, Rear Sync and can fire flashes wirelessly.

It also can work as a backup to my SLRs with LEA2 adapter helping to reduce the load when I want to carry a more serious camera.

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What a handsome dog. Is it a boy or girl? I have a female German Shepherd .

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As for the fill in flash, it does not work well on bright days, because shutter speed is limited to 1/160 with flash. I normally shoot in A mode, and I got some completely overexposed pictures until I figured out what was going on.
I bought the camera after reading this review: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/sony-alpha-nex-6/4505-6501_7-35437771.html
I agree with everything that Lori Grunin said about this camera. I am very happy with it.

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GaryW wrote:

captura wrote:

"Down side: I put the camera in auto mode and pop up the flash to hand to friends so they can take a picture but the fill flash did not cope well with the strong light and the shaded faces. Maybe spot metering in A mode woule be better?"

I wonder if using HDR would help with the shadowed areas?

It would, but it's not a good idea to use that mode when giving to friends, as it needs to be held still for 3 photos.

Be sure DRO is turned on. It will brighten shadows. Otherwise, try RAW and have more leeway in making adjustments.

Normally, the built in flash works well for fill for me, but maybe it's too bright on the water like that?

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Never had problems with using it. The 3+ photos happen quickly and the camera seems to compensate for the slight movement in between. You are right about trying DRO.

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Jesper Frickmann wrote:

As for the fill in flash, it does not work well on bright days, because shutter speed is limited to 1/160 with flash. I normally shoot in A mode, and I got some completely overexposed pictures until I figured out what was going on.
I bought the camera after reading this review: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/sony-alpha-nex-6/4505-6501_7-35437771.html
I agree with everything that Lori Grunin said about this camera. I am very happy with it.

I would like to invest in a 49mm ND filter for these occasions. If I were to buy just one ND filter, what would be the recommendation as far as numbering goes for the top photo posted by the OP and using a flash as fill in?

BTW - Very nice photos, OP.

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Jesper Frickmann wrote:

As for the fill in flash, it does not work well on bright days, because shutter speed is limited to 1/160 with flash. I normally shoot in A mode, and I got some completely overexposed pictures until I figured out what was going on.
I bought the camera after reading this review: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/sony-alpha-nex-6/4505-6501_7-35437771.html
I agree with everything that Lori Grunin said about this camera. I am very happy with it.

Living in cold dark Canada I have not much need for an N.D. filter but perhaps in your case, where it is so bright? I don't know, but if you are shooting at F11 or higher that can create it's own set of problems.

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10 out of 10 for the big smile you put on my face

Excellent shots and good humour as well in these IMO. That is a FISH !! Nice catch. The second shot is timing at its best, that brings a smile and tells a story at the same time. Nice work. The doggy, well we love love it here, beautiful shot.

All the best and great to see thanks.

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Jesper Frickmann wrote:

As for the fill in flash, it does not work well on bright days, because shutter speed is limited to 1/160 with flash. I normally shoot in A mode, and I got some completely overexposed pictures until I figured out what was going on.
I bought the camera after reading this review: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/sony-alpha-nex-6/4505-6501_7-35437771.html
I agree with everything that Lori Grunin said about this camera. I am very happy with it.

Living in cold dark Canada I have not much need for an N.D. filter but perhaps in your case, where it is so bright? I don't know, but if you are shooting at F11 or higher that can create it's own set of problems.

Thanks to all for the comments. I have an 8stop ND filter but did not take it on this trip and anyway I tend to use a polerizing filter when on a boat. The Aussie sun is pretty harsh so I think the 1/160 shutter speed has somthing to do with it. I'll keep trying a few different things.

The dogs name is Randy and he's quite a character and photogenic I think. I used the SEL35f18 for this shot, indoors with some late afternoon light. I think I can see the difference in quality between this lens and the pancake zoom…but both are handy!

For the fishermen out there those fish are Samson fish and they are brutal. We were jigging for them in 100m of water over some wrecks and getting them to the boat was PAINFUL with about 12kg of drag. I could not lift my arms higher than my shoulders after that session. A nice pain.

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I went back and looked at the EXIF and the shutter speed is 1/160 or less!  So, flash should have worked, unless it just wasn't strong enough.  ???

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In reply to rodderslw, Dec 13, 2013

Nice fishing shots! Gotta love a big slippery fish.

As to your flash not working, it is likely due to lack of power not the metering mode. Shooting at f8-f11 ISO 100 is too much for a tiny flash.  You would be better off with a full sized flash.  My Nikon sb800 can do f11 light to 9 feet full power and that is a GN 125 ISO 100 flash.  That tiny GN 18 iso100 flash just can not compete with the sun. It Is the right idea, but underpowered.  Is it worth getting a full sized flash for outdoor use?  YES!  But that means batteries and a bit more stuff!

Nice fish!  Nice dog!

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