Speckles all over flash photo

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Speckles all over flash photo
Dec 11, 2013

I took some photographs on saturday at a local Christmas event.  The ones with flash typically came out as follows: the ones without flash were clear. It was not raining.  I checked my lens - it's not spotted.

Anyone know what might have caused it?

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msjhaffey wrote:Anyone know what might have caused it?

Reflected Dust in the Air.

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Rain, Dust or snow flakes.

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In reply to msjhaffey, Dec 11, 2013

The above responses are quite correct. You did not say, but I am guessing you used the pop up flash? This 'phenomena' is frequently seen where the flash output is close to the optical axis of the lens - it is very prevalent on pocket compacts. If you want a laugh at the expense of the cerebrally challenged then look up 'orbs' on the internet - some people believe these blobs to be fairies or spirits - some people believe anything 

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Thanks for the replies.

There was no snow or rain and I was using an SB900.

All I can think of is that the air felt damp, but there was no precipitation, either in the air or on objects. Nor was there any visible mist.

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msjhaffey wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

There was no snow or rain and I was using an SB900.

All I can think of is that the air felt damp, but there was no precipitation, either in the air or on objects. Nor was there any visible mist.

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then that settles it: they must be fairies and spirits!

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Indeed.  A sherlock amongst us!  

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Hugo First wrote:

msjhaffey wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

There was no snow or rain and I was using an SB900.

All I can think of is that the air felt damp, but there was no precipitation, either in the air or on objects. Nor was there any visible mist.

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then that settles it: they must be fairies and spirits!

Must be!

Sherlock Holmes said:

... when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

OP: It's definitely something in the air.

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Lots of colds around at this time of year. Perhaps someone sneezed. Also a lot of vapour coming out of the singers mouths.

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Hugo First wrote:

msjhaffey wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

There was no snow or rain and I was using an SB900.

All I can think of is that the air felt damp, but there was no precipitation, either in the air or on objects. Nor was there any visible mist.

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then that settles it: they must be fairies and spirits!

Must be!

Sherlock Holmes said:

... when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

OP: It's definitely something in the air.

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Re: Speckles all over flash photo
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msjhaffey wrote:

I took some photographs on saturday at a local Christmas event. The ones with flash typically came out as follows: the ones without flash were clear. It was not raining. I checked my lens - it's not spotted.

Anyone know what might have caused it?

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Hi Sean,

Just a suggestion - but check in with your dealer as I think you need to move on to a DF to prevent this sort of problem.

I'm joking - you already have 2 PROFESSIONAL cameras, and high end PROFESSIONAL lenses and needed to check your lens?!!!  You seriously need to consider spending more time rather than money on your hobby!

Good luck! May your technique and bank balance improve

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It is refections from droplets close to the camera.
In reply to msjhaffey, Dec 11, 2013

This is caused by reflections from condensed droplets in the air very close in front of the camera. The condensed water is probably from your own breathing. The droplets are almost invisible when they are spread out in front of you particularly when it is dark.

You can see these reflections are in front of everything also the person on the podium to the right. From the size you can calculate how close they are at f/4 and 24 mm FL.

Next time keep your breath for a moment before triggering the shutter.

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Well that was helpful.

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In reply to Bob GB, Dec 11, 2013

Thanks.  It has to be droplets in the air, but not from my breathing: these were in every flash photo taken about this time but not in others that were earlier/later, nor was there any sign of these in non-flash photos.  It's also not droplets from the singers' mouths: I've checked the original photos at 100% and no sign of singer steam.

I think it must just have been the very damp air.

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msjhaffey wrote:

Thanks. It has to be droplets in the air, but not from my breathing: these were in every flash photo taken about this time but not in others that were earlier/later, nor was there any sign of these in non-flash photos. It's also not droplets from the singers' mouths: I've checked the original photos at 100% and no sign of singer steam.

I think it must just have been the very damp air.

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I have gotten same result this in the summer on a hot clear evening, where there is a large group of people trampling in a spot, there is dust, it is reflecting the flash light and the reflection is enlarged compared to a small light speckle due to it being out of focus. The simplest "solution" was don't use flash for that shot, but I am sure that taking the light off the lens axis would also help if you have a TTL cord

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msjhaffey wrote:

these were in every flash photo taken about this time but not in others that were earlier/later, nor was there any sign of these in non-flash photos.

There is a guy on the stage at right, he maybe generated the dust in the air close to you.

He looks like he is dancing or something.

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englishfil wrote:

If you want a laugh at the expense of the cerebrally challenged then look up 'orbs' on the internet - some people believe these blobs to be fairies or spirits - some people believe anything

I just did this.  Sheesh!  I must say I find it a little sad that there are people who actually seem to believe this stuff.

But as P.T. Barnum was reputed to have said, there's a sucker born every minute.

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msjhaffey wrote:

Well that was helpful.

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Perhaps just try my advice, you may be surprised.

Best wishes.

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As the ground looks wet, I still go with very light drizzle.

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I doubt I'd be astonished.  I'd be totally taken aback.  Staggered.

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