Solutions to the crap hood of the 23mm

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Solutions to the crap hood of the 23mm
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Any small 3rd party ones out there a la 35mm? Thanks!

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Remember, it is only crap until the sun the gets in and ruins a shot.

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Re: Solutions to the crap hood of the 23mm
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zenpmd wrote:

Any small 3rd party ones out there a la 35mm? Thanks!

Just get yourself a cheap metal vented screw-on hood. It obviously won't offer the same amount of protection as the OEM one, but it still offers some protection without the size.

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Thanks Mr Moonlight. I heard they might cause vignetting?

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zenpmd wrote:

Thanks Mr Moonlight. I heard they might cause vignetting?

Yes, some do. You'll have to test them to see how they work for you.

My screw in hood works fine without a filter. It vignettes a little with a filter. I'm not too horribly offended by the standard hood, though.

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I just got this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Wide-Angle-62mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Cap-/360810412459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5401f9f9ab

It's pretty short, about a 1/2" deep, and does NOT vignette, even on top of a slim filter. I'm not sure how much flare protection it will give - I mainly wanted it for some "front end" protection.

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Al Valentino wrote:

Remember, it is only crap until the sun the gets in and ruins a shot.

I agree. It also comes in handy if it is snowing! I did buy a shorter metal screw in to use as well. But I find myself using the Big Ugly one more often than not.

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In reply to zenpmd, 4 months ago

I don't find the hood crap at all. Form follows function in my view. But hey, everyone is entitled to their own artistic opinions.

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Yes, the hood is ugly. Since I kind of like flares and ghostings every once in a while, I decided just not to use it. I put on a good UV filter for protection though, which by the way offers better protection against the ever sticky fingers of my toddlers.

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naftade wrote:

Yes, the hood is ugly. Since I kind of like flares and ghostings every once in a while, I decided just not to use it. I put on a good UV filter for protection though, which by the way offers better protection against the ever sticky fingers of my toddlers.

Hi, does this mean that if you do not see flares or ghostings in the photo, you will bear no image degradation - in the absence of a hood ? Will it not affect colors or contrast in any way not immediately visible ? Thx.

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Activatedfx wrote:

I just got this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Wide-Angle-62mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Cap-/360810412459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5401f9f9ab

It's pretty short, about a 1/2" deep, and does NOT vignette, even on top of a slim filter. I'm not sure how much flare protection it will give - I mainly wanted it for some "front end" protection.

I really like this, good idea. Based on your experience so far, does it actually improve the quality (colors, contrast) of the photos that you can tell ?

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naftade wrote:

Yes, the hood is ugly. Since I kind of like flares and ghostings every once in a while, I decided just not to use it. I put on a good UV filter for protection though, which by the way offers better protection against the ever sticky fingers of my toddlers.

Hi, does this mean that if you do not see flares or ghostings in the photo, you will bear no image degradation - in the absence of a hood ? Will it not affect colors or contrast in any way not immediately visible ? Thx.

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In most situations i do not see any difference. But this goes for all lenses with multi-coated glass I ever used. A fall off in contrast should not be noticeable in any but the brightest surroundings or (of course) when a light source is directed straight into the lens.

And there is another thing. Hoods are no magic items. They can only be as effective as they are capable of shielding the lens against stray light. Thus when using a wider angled lens the effect necessarily becomes less obvious as the hood has to be wide open in order not to vignette. Being a wide standard lens, I'd claim the 23 1.4 is not one of those lenses that practcally 'have to be used with a hood'.

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afragisk wrote:

Activatedfx wrote:

I just got this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Wide-Angle-62mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Cap-/360810412459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5401f9f9ab

It's pretty short, about a 1/2" deep, and does NOT vignette, even on top of a slim filter. I'm not sure how much flare protection it will give - I mainly wanted it for some "front end" protection.

I really like this, good idea. Based on your experience so far, does it actually improve the quality (colors, contrast) of the photos that you can tell ?

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Hi afragisk - I haven't really done any with or without hood testing. I bought it mostly for a little "front end" protection, as I don't like to use UV filters. My main concern was that it didn't vignette. I'm sure it's better than nothing, but obviously it's not going to be as good as the Fuji OEM hood!

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I plan to obtain a second Fuji hood for the 23mm, and then saw off the long petals.  That way I'll have the original for maximum flare suppression, and the sawed-off unit for compact requirements.

The problem with screw-in metal hoods are:

1.  They're screw-in, and therefore interfere with filters and come closer to vignetting.  And,

2.  They're metal, which clearly offers less impact protection that pliant plastic.

I wish the hoods on all my Zeiss ZF lenses were plastic for this reason.

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