Do I Really Need a 610 or 800

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ShaggyRS6
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Do I Really Need a 610 or 800
9 months ago

Confused, perplexed, eager, hesitant, just some of the words that enter my head since retaking up photography. Why I feel that way will become apparent by the end of the post. Dont be mad at me!!

Just to recap…..I had a D2X, I mainly took aviation photography, used Auto settings for everything.  Did not have a clue!!

I recently sold the D2X and got a D7100, I also have a Sony RX100.

For once in my life I have actually taken the time to start learning about photography, composition, light, aperture and so on, and you know what?  I’m actually not too bad at it.  I’m not the greatest and never will be but I am not too shabby at all. I am enjoying the journey shall we say..  Recently I started to try some Street Photography, I love it, I can get enough of it.

The lenses I currently own are:

·         Nikkor 20mm 2.8 D

·         AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

·         Nikkor 80-400 VR – The first version

·         Tamron SP 70-200mm F/2.8 Di VC USD

Circumstances are such that I could take my D7100 back and get a very good price for it and then upgrade to a D610 or D800.  Why would I want to do this you ask?  Well good question, I was hoping you could answer that.

In the back of my head the little angel is saying. Oi… No…Your slipping back into the all the gear and no idea mind set. Be happy with what you have.  The little Devil though, well he is saying, get a big D800, sell that that DX lens too and get faster f2.8 lens, 18-55 or something like that.  Its only money!

Then the Angel says.. No, you can get a faster lens for the D7100 and maybe a new camera bag.  Learn to use what you have an come back to a full frame in a year or so.  Anyhoos.  You get the picture J

Bottom line is, I’m happy with the D7100 but in a position to get a 610 or 800.  Should I?  I should I spend that cash on another lens.

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In reply to ShaggyRS6, 9 months ago

You don't......Look at those great photos posted in 500px, most of them were taken with non expensive cameras.

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Just keep shooting with that D7100 and learn everything you can about photography from it.  Looks like you have plenty of lenses.  It's called UGI (Upgradeitis) and you got it bad!

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Enough said. Spend your money an a wider lens if you have money to burn.

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I would go with the D610, IQ is simply much better!

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In reply to ShaggyRS6, 9 months ago

If you don't need FF, keep your D7100 and get a lens.

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In reply to GPW, 9 months ago

Get the D800E. You'll never regret it.

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In reply to Alan Crosthwaite, 9 months ago

... but he may be in for a shock then!

The D800 is a boat anchor (to quote ctein)...

To OP: there is no such thing as "need" in photography. I would of course listen to the yes angel anytime.

... or the other angel depending on question.

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In reply to ShaggyRS6, 9 months ago

I think I understand the general consensus. Become good with what I have and maybe get a lens to fill the gap I have.

That's the sensible thing to do!!

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I have a 600 and I keep thinking I would like to have a DX body, and in particular a 7100 - and of course there is no really factually compelling reason at all!

You and I need to concentrate on doing the best we can with what we have ...

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ShaggyRS6 wrote:

Confused, perplexed, eager, hesitant, just some of the words that enter my head since retaking up photography. Why I feel that way will become apparent by the end of the post. Dont be mad at me!!

Just to recap…..I had a D2X, I mainly took aviation photography, used Auto settings for everything. Did not have a clue!!

I recently sold the D2X and got a D7100, I also have a Sony RX100.

For once in my life I have actually taken the time to start learning about photography, composition, light, aperture and so on, and you know what? I’m actually not too bad at it. I’m not the greatest and never will be but I am not too shabby at all. I am enjoying the journey shall we say.. Recently I started to try some Street Photography, I love it, I can get enough of it.

The lenses I currently own are:

· Nikkor 20mm 2.8 D

· AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

· Nikkor 80-400 VR – The first version

· Tamron SP 70-200mm F/2.8 Di VC USD

Circumstances are such that I could take my D7100 back and get a very good price for it and then upgrade to a D610 or D800. Why would I want to do this you ask? Well good question, I was hoping you could answer that.

In the back of my head the little angel is saying. Oi… No…Your slipping back into the all the gear and no idea mind set. Be happy with what you have. The little Devil though, well he is saying, get a big D800, sell that that DX lens too and get faster f2.8 lens, 18-55 or something like that. Its only money!

Then the Angel says.. No, you can get a faster lens for the D7100 and maybe a new camera bag. Learn to use what you have an come back to a full frame in a year or so. Anyhoos. You get the picture J

Bottom line is, I’m happy with the D7100 but in a position to get a 610 or 800. Should I? I should I spend that cash on another lens.

There's no denying that bigger, and more expensive cameras give you a sugar rush initially, but to be honest it doesn't sound like the D7100 is holding you back, and it's a fine camera.

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I have had just about every thing from Nikon that has come out since the D70.  I currently own D800 and the D7100.   I got the D7100 because it's quiet, small, pro body, takes great picts, and fun to use, and even though I can gripe about the lack of DX prime WA lenses, it still gets picked up more than the D800.

Remember to really get the most out of the D800 you need the glass, and glass wins every time, and by your inventory you could easily spend a bunch getting the 16-35mm/24-70mm/70-200mm F4---the 70-200mm F4 is also a wonder on the D7100-------------------or --------------you can go up a bit with D7100 glass and get the tokina 11-16mm F2.8/Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-4.5/ and I would still get the 70-200mm F4, but your 80-400mm is still a good lens.---this is reasonably small, portable, and excellent kit

Answer--keep your D7100 and work on glass---believe you me, the keeping up with the Nikon Joneses is not a cheap and/or fun game and there is probably more coming qucikly to a store near you   ---------------------ron s.

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You know you are going to listen to the devil in the end, we all do. 

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Probably you shld just spend more time improving your photography and spend the money on lenses that you can use on FX in the future.

By then, there will be newer FX cameras out there for you to pick up when you are ready.

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ShaggyRS6 wrote:

Then the Angel says.. No, you can get a faster lens for the D7100 and maybe a new camera bag.

Actually you cannot get faster lenses for D7100. There doesnt exist a 14mm F1.9 to match 20 F2.8, there doesnt exist a 50-135 F2.0 to match 70-200 f2.8. If you want faster, you have to go FF.

a refurbished D600 is a better deal than both 800 and 610.

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ShaggyRS6 wrote:

Then the Angel says.. No, you can get a faster lens for the D7100 and maybe a new camera bag.

Actually you cannot get faster lenses for D7100. There doesnt exist a 14mm F1.9 to match 20 F2.8, there doesnt exist a 50-135 F2.0 to match 70-200 f2.8. If you want faster, you have to go FF.

a refurbished D600 is a better deal than both 800 and 610.

I don't agree.  Every DX shooter needs the 35mm f1.8 prime, or better if you can afford it.

To the OP, upgrade your glass.

Personally I recommend the Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art.  It'll crop like a fifty on your D7100, give you nice shallow depth of field to play with and it's very sharp (sharper than the Nikon).

It's also compatible with FX, if you do decide to listen to the devil eventually.

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InTheMist wrote:

ultimitsu wrote:

ShaggyRS6 wrote:

Then the Angel says.. No, you can get a faster lens for the D7100 and maybe a new camera bag.

Actually you cannot get faster lenses for D7100. There doesnt exist a 14mm F1.9 to match 20 F2.8, there doesnt exist a 50-135 F2.0 to match 70-200 f2.8. If you want faster, you have to go FF.

a refurbished D600 is a better deal than both 800 and 610.

I don't agree. Every DX shooter needs the 35mm f1.8 prime, or better if you can afford it....

Personally I recommend the Sigma 35mm f1.4 Art. It'll crop like a fifty on your D7100, give you nice shallow depth of field to play with and it's very sharp (sharper than the Nikon).

Well, to make 35 F1.4 on DX, all you need is a 50 F2.1 for FF, which doesnt exist, you can spend about 23% of the money on a 50 F1.8 for FF, or half the money on 50 F1.4.

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In reply to ShaggyRS6, 9 months ago

If you find yourself challenged by low light, or you want shallower depth of field, then going full frame is a good option, but honestly, 90% of users don't get the benefit of the D800 over the D600/610. What I see is that you have 3 lenses already that you can immediately get the benefit of on full frame. The 20mm becomes a proper wide angle. In fact, just add a fast 50mm (not expensive) and you have the range more or less covered if you don't mind switching lenses.

If you can afford to keep the D7100 then you have a good combination for shooting with the long lens when you need the extra reach.

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Bottom line is, I’m happy with the D7100 but in a position to get a 610 or 800. Should I? I should I spend that cash on another lens.

I have a rule - if I asking me myseld, if I "need" something and there is not a clear answer / decision, I don´t need it.

Invest the money in good / superb lenses and you will be more pleased.

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ron_9 wrote:

I have had just about every thing from Nikon that has come out since the D70. I currently own D800 and the D7100. I got the D7100 because it's quiet, small, pro body, takes great picts, and fun to use, and even though I can gripe about the lack of DX prime WA lenses, it still gets picked up more than the D800.

Remember to really get the most out of the D800 you need the glass, and glass wins every time, and by your inventory you could easily spend a bunch getting the 16-35mm/24-70mm/70-200mm F4---the 70-200mm F4 is also a wonder on the D7100-------------------or --------------you can go up a bit with D7100 glass and get the tokina 11-16mm F2.8/Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-4.5/ and I would still get the 70-200mm F4, but your 80-400mm is still a good lens.---this is reasonably small, portable, and excellent kit

Answer--keep your D7100 and work on glass---believe you me, the keeping up with the Nikon Joneses is not a cheap and/or fun game and there is probably more coming qucikly to a store near you ---------------------ron s.

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