If English is not your native tongue...

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If English is not your native tongue...
Dec 9, 2013

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

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In Russian and Croatian, the answer is yes
In reply to gordonpritchard, Dec 9, 2013

But most of the abbreviations are the English ones. ROFL, ATMO, WTF. The symbols are the same. If you're using Russian there's lots of toggling between cyrillic and English keyboards.

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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

Only the language that Jesus spoke to Texans, English, is as flexible as this. Other languages do not come close, abbreviations, truncated words, symbols, have not been introduced yet.

We are waiting patiently for English to spread to other countries so that we can all benefit from Lyle's schooling

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Marcamera wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

Only the language that Jesus spoke to Texans, English, is as flexible as this. Other languages do not come close, abbreviations, truncated words, symbols, have not been introduced yet.

We are waiting patiently for English to spread to other countries so that we can all benefit from Lyle's schooling

Rgds

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Marcamera wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

Only the language that Jesus spoke to Texans, English, is as flexible as this. Other languages do not come close, abbreviations, truncated words, symbols, have not been introduced yet.

We are waiting patiently for English to spread to other countries so that we can all benefit from Lyle's schooling

Rgds

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K7 = cassette, in French!

GRÖFAZ = Größter Führer aller Zeiten = Hitler, in German!

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Re: If English is not your native tongue...
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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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NO

NO

NO

My neighbours speak BlaBla, in our cave we just growl and use bits of sign language, mostly middle finger.

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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Any language which has similar words with different meanings can be used for puns. English though has so many because it borrowed words from multiple sources, but it is not unique.

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Varies to a large extent. Bad spelling is not unique to English, but most Latin, Germanic or Slavic languages are more consistently phonetic (spelling is exactly as it sounds, even if accents vary). English is uniquely bad in this respect, but there are other "mixed" language dialects in all countries which are less consistent, especially near borders where words are borrowed from both sides of the border along with local dialects. Catalan for instance.

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

Yes, but obviously not the same ones.

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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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No offense but are you serious? I guess you are pretty good comedian asking these questions - no offense, but what have you been learning in school? Have you heard about the fact that English was not invented in Alabama?

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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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Older, ancient languages such as Hebrew, Arabic do indeed have puns...in that many words have more than one meaning and can be used with a double context - ie: pun, or play on a word.

However, in modern times...Hebrew often creates a pun within the context of say 'international' terminology.

See here for examples:

http://howtobeisraeli.blogspot.ca/2010/02/art-of-punning-in-hebrish.html

Yes, Hebrew is often abbreviated also.

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Not in Dutch which is a very primitive language. We have a few so called writers but no poets to speak of.

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Not in Dutch which is a very primitive language. We have a few so called writers but no poets to speak of.

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Windmills, just do it.

What about Guido Gezelle ?

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oops, I'm not supposed to know about him, I live in a cave and only growl. . .  

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Not in Dutch which is a very primitive language. We have a few so called writers but no poets to speak of.

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Windmills, just do it.

Leon de Winter, Harry Mulisch. Not poets, but writers.

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Rubbish is a polite way to describe their scribbles.

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I would also like to add that English was actually invented in a small town somewhere in the Midwest. There have been studies by really famous and totally smart scientists from universities stating that people who don't have American blood running through their veins can - obviously for reasons only God can explain, because he created all of us, but Americans first - never learn to master this oh so complex language in which most people use words like "like" and "duh" and "awesome" and "cute" in every second sentence.

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In reply to Marcamera, Dec 9, 2013

Marcamera wrote:

gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

Only the language that Jesus spoke to Texans, English, is as flexible as this. Other languages do not come close, , truncated words, symbols, have not been introduced yet.

We are waiting patiently for English to spread to other countries so that we can all benefit from Lyle's schooling

Rgds

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One of my abbreviations for, (o)(o) do you know what the are?

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Thanks Guy...

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gordonpritchard wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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In my country there are three types of Christmas trees,
Christmas tree in my language = kerstboom,
So, a kerstboom,
if you don't like the mess a kunst-kerstboom,
and, if you don't like it at all, a kut-kerstboom.

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dh steffi wrote:

Rubbish is a polite way to describe their scribbles.

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Windmills, just do it.

Does this explain why the Dutch speak such impeccable English?

Just for some good reading material?

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dh steffi wrote:

Rubbish is a polite way to describe their scribbles.

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Windmills, just do it.

Steffi, would you have a good recipe for a "kerststol" and be willing to give it out ?

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Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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In Japanese there are quite a few puns.

With having a character based writing system and being a purely phonetic language. It is harder to figure things out when messed up. But it can be done.

As for abbreviations.... I doubt many languages have more than Japanese. They especially like to abbreviate English words. Sekuhara is sexual harassment.

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Brian wrote:

Questions:

Do other languages have puns?

Can you mix up the letters within words and still have the text be readable?

Can you abbreviate, truncate, and/or use symbols when texting?

gordo

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In Japanese there are quite a few puns.

With having a character based writing system and being a purely phonetic language. It is harder to figure things out when messed up. But it can be done.

As for abbreviations.... I doubt many languages have more than Japanese. They especially like to abbreviate English words. Sekuhara is sexual harassment.

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I like sekuhara (the word, that is )

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