Exposure Bracketing with 70D

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Peter Marchant
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Exposure Bracketing with 70D
Dec 9, 2013

Can anyone explain why it seems to be almost impossible to achieve Exposure Bracketing with a single press of the shutter release?

If one has chosen to do exposure bracketing, it seems daft to have to remember to press the button 3 times. Why is it not like HDR where a single press take the 3 shots immediately?

I’ve only found one way to achieve 3 bracketed shots with a single press, and that’s by engaging the 2 second delay. Seems a convoluted way to do a simple job! I can’t think of any reason why someone would want to press the button 3 times, rather than once. It’s easy to forget that bracketing is engaged, so the second (single press) shot will be under-exposed and the third one over-exposed if bracketing is not self-cancelling.

Maybe I’ve overlooked something?

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Peter

PS I presume the same goes for White Balance bracketing - Surely the 3 shots should be taken immediately the button is pressed?

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I have not shot bracketed in a while but that is the way my other Canons work. I guess they should make it selectable to auto shoot three times or manual.

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You can do it by putting the camera in continuous drive also (and of the continuous modes, high speed, low speed, silent) and holding the shutter button.  It will stop shooting frames after the 3 bracketed shots automatically.

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Try shooting in rapid fire mode.  If it works anything like my 7D, it will fire off the requisite number of shots to complete bracketing automatically at full speed as you hold the button down.

Peter Marchant wrote:

Can anyone explain why it seems to be almost impossible to achieve Exposure Bracketing with a single press of the shutter release?

If one has chosen to do exposure bracketing, it seems daft to have to remember to press the button 3 times. Why is it not like HDR where a single press take the 3 shots immediately?

I’ve only found one way to achieve 3 bracketed shots with a single press, and that’s by engaging the 2 second delay. Seems a convoluted way to do a simple job! I can’t think of any reason why someone would want to press the button 3 times, rather than once. It’s easy to forget that bracketing is engaged, so the second (single press) shot will be under-exposed and the third one over-exposed if bracketing is not self-cancelling.

Maybe I’ve overlooked something?

Thanks

Peter

PS I presume the same goes for White Balance bracketing - Surely the 3 shots should be taken immediately the button is pressed?

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Use the two second delay and use Live View to flip up and lock the mirror before you press the shutter. That way you will have no problems aligning your images in post and all your shots will be taken with just one shutter press. Canon, in their infinite wisdom, got this feature right in my opinion (well, except you can't take 5 bracketed shots or more without working a fiddle... I do wish they would fix THAT).

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I just moved up from a Canon Rebel XS, which also has AEB.  The XS allows you to set the AEB.  It will then take three photos in succession, without having to press the shutter three times.  You need to keep the camera still while the three images are taken, of course.

It seems really odd that Canon would require you to press the shutter three times manually on the 70D, especially given that it is not clearly explained in the manual (at least not clearly to me).

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Simple - just put it in continuous high-speed drive.

Mark

Edit...just realized the thread is 9 months old!  Sorry.  Hopefully the OP has got this sorted out by now lol.

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Mark B. wrote:

Simple - just put it in continuous high-speed drive.

Mark

Edit...just realized the thread is 9 months old! Sorry. Hopefully the OP has got this sorted out by now lol.

OP here - I don't often use bracketing and I never use high speed drive.  My question was (should be addressed to Canon really) why doesn't bracketing anticipate that the user needs to take 3 (or selected number)  shots?  In my view, once bracketing is selected, a single press of the release should ALWAYS take the 3 shots.

As I earlier noted, selection of HDR DOES take 3 shots with a single press of the release, even on single-shot drive. Why the inconsistency?

Peter

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Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Simple - just put it in continuous high-speed drive.

Mark

Edit...just realized the thread is 9 months old! Sorry. Hopefully the OP has got this sorted out by now lol.

OP here - I don't often use bracketing and I never use high speed drive. My question was (should be addressed to Canon really) why doesn't bracketing anticipate that the user needs to take 3 (or selected number) shots? In my view, once bracketing is selected, a single press of the release should ALWAYS take the 3 shots.

As I earlier noted, selection of HDR DOES take 3 shots with a single press of the release, even on single-shot drive. Why the inconsistency?

Peter

I'm not sure that I see this as a problem. This way, you get the choice of taking all three at once, by using continuous shooting mode, or of taking each one when you choose. If Canon had set it up so that it always takes all three at once, no matter what drive mode you're in, I'm sure there would be plenty of people here complaining that Canon was forcing something on them, when they wanted the choice to do it the other way! I expect that the HDR mode doesn't give you the choice, because the camera has to align the pictures, and the quicker they get taken, the less chance of misalignment there is. I have my camera in continuous mode (usually high speed) the whole time, so it's never a problem for me. Even in high speed mode, I find it easy to take just one shot when I want to.

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Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Simple - just put it in continuous high-speed drive.

Mark

Edit...just realized the thread is 9 months old! Sorry. Hopefully the OP has got this sorted out by now lol.

OP here - I don't often use bracketing and I never use high speed drive. My question was (should be addressed to Canon really) why doesn't bracketing anticipate that the user needs to take 3 (or selected number) shots? In my view, once bracketing is selected, a single press of the release should ALWAYS take the 3 shots.

As I earlier noted, selection of HDR DOES take 3 shots with a single press of the release, even on single-shot drive. Why the inconsistency?

Peter

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement.  You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to.  One choice accomplishes the goal.  The other just leads to frustration.

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Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing.  In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures.  This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest.  There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected.  I see no logic in this.

Peter

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Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing. In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures. This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest. There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected. I see no logic in this.

Peter

So get a different camera.  My point is that the 70D simply isn't set up to do it that way - but there is a workaround.

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Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing. In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures. This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest. There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected. I see no logic in this.

Peter

So get a different camera. My point is that the 70D simply isn't set up to do it that way - but there is a workaround.

I agree.
I regularly take 3-shot brackets with my 70d using the method described.
My main problem is forgetting to cancel the bracket settings when I've finished.

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Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing. In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures. This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest. There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected. I see no logic in this.

Peter

I agree with you, the advantages of always taking the bracketed shots in one go outweigh the cons. AEB is an old feature and works the way it does probably because ‘it always has been like this’. I guess the thinking is that you might want to recompose your three bracketed shots, but that must be a much rarer thing nowadays with HDR processing.

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Mark B. wrote:

Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing. In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures. This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest. There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected. I see no logic in this.

Peter

So get a different camera. My point is that the 70D simply isn't set up to do it that way - but there is a workaround.

He knows of the workaround, he is just discussing the logic of the default behaviour. "Get a different camera" is such a stupid reply. Do you switch cameras each time you find a minor niggle with your current one?

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David Naylor wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Peter Marchant wrote:

Mark B. wrote:

Regardless of why it was done that way, the solution is very simple to implement. You can choose to use it, or continue to curse Canon b/c the camera doesn't operate the way you want it to. One choice accomplishes the goal. The other just leads to frustration.

Mark - the point is, it's all too easy to forget you've selected bracketing. In that case, only 1 in 3 shots you subsequently take will be accurately exposed.

The point of bracketing is to take THE SAME SHOT at 3 (or however many you choose) different exposures. This allows one to later select the best one and discard the rest. There's no valid arguement (as another poster suggests) that you may want to wait some considerable time between bracketed exposures - these would be different photos and conditions may well change by the time he takes his 2nd and 3rd shots, thus defeating the whole point of bracketing.

I don't expect everyone to agree but I've not yet hear a valid reasson for choosing to press the button 3 time for bracketing whilst only a single press is required if HDR is selected. I see no logic in this.

Peter

So get a different camera. My point is that the 70D simply isn't set up to do it that way - but there is a workaround.

He knows of the workaround, he is just discussing the logic of the default behaviour. "Get a different camera" is such a stupid reply. Do you switch cameras each time you find a minor niggle with your current one?

No, he just wants to complain that the camera doesn't work the way he wants it to.  It's pointless to continue the complaint at this point.  Send a complaint to Canon.  Getting a different camera is not unreasonable if it bothers someone that much if they won't even use a solution that's been suggested.

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Mark B. wrote:

So get a different camera. My point is that the 70D simply isn't set up to do it that way - but there is a workaround.

He knows of the workaround, he is just discussing the logic of the default behaviour. "Get a different camera" is such a stupid reply. Do you switch cameras each time you find a minor niggle with your current one?

No, he just wants to complain that the camera doesn't work the way he wants it to. It's pointless to continue the complaint at this point. Send a complaint to Canon. Getting a different camera is not unreasonable if it bothers someone that much if they won't even use a solution that's been suggested.

He's already said he uses the workaround ... And what's wrong with complaining? These forums are for both complaints and praise, right? Or are just positive, hallelujah type threads allowed? I must have missed the memo.

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