Now that the K3 has been returned.. back to work with the K5 IIs

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Jim Radcliffe
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Now that the K3 has been returned.. back to work with the K5 IIs
Nov 10, 2013

There's no better way to get over returning a camera than to get out and shoot with what you currently own.  In my case that is the K5 IIs.

I love doing photography at night. It offers a totally different feeling than shooting during the day. It's quiet and lends itself to really taking your time to enjoy photography on a different level. Normally it is much quieter at night but on this occasion two competing packs of coyotes were trying to see which group could be the most vocal... but it did add to ambiance of the evening under the stars in west Texas.

This shot was taken last night near Fort Griffin, Texas. There was a half moon providing good ambient light but not enough to turn night into day during a long exposure. This little blacksmith's shop was an unexpected find. I was given access by the custodian of this historical area and was surprised to find the shop to be so complete in period equipment and its 1870s appearance.

There were no lights in this building but I have learned to bring a variety of lights for night work from soft LED floods to little LED contraptions I have made myself as well as a variety of flashlights. I used two of my little handmade LED lights to light the interior of the building, a red and amber LED, powered by a 9 volt battery. The type I used were ultra-bright and designed to run off of a 12 volt battery but 9 volts will run them for over 40 hours continuously.. no kidding, I created my first one and powered it for five days straight on a single 9 volt battery. The exterior of the building was painted with soft light from and LED flashlight with a slight amber filter over the lens.

For the interior lighting I control the intensity of the light in a very low tech manner... toilet paper... you need less light, you wrap toilet paper around it until you get the subdued light you need... this also allows the light to diffuse as well. Toilet paper is a very handy thing to have in the field.

I used the Pentax K5 IIs and the DA* 16-50 for this shot. Set up focus using AF and then switched to manual focus and locked it in. Exposure was 15 seconds at f/2.8 ISO 800. Lightroom was used for initial post-work then I moved the file to Photoshop CS6 for final tweaks, re-sizing and sharpening.

Hope you like it.. I had a great time taking it.  Left Dallas at 10am Saturday morning and returned at 4:20am Sunday.. a full night of shooting and enjoying being out of the big city.

Always best to view the large version of my photos..

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In reply to Jim Radcliffe, Nov 10, 2013

Very nice work Jim! I enjoyed your picture as well as the detailed explanation, thanks for sharing!

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Nice one, Jim. I feel like I could just move right in.

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Fantastic shot. Not only the subject matter with the stars in the background sky but also the level of effort in order to get this shot. You just don't go out and shoot whatever you find as most of us do, you actually set up a scene !

I think this is a shot that deserves being exposed in a gallery.

Thanks for sharing your tricks too!

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In reply to Joseph Tainter, Nov 10, 2013

Great image, and great lighting ideas - I generally have a small LED flashlight (too dim) a road flare ( bad idea ) & headlights as alternate light sources. I really like this kind of shot but a bit more gear needs to come along for it.

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jimrpdx wrote:

Great image, and great lighting ideas - I generally have a small LED flashlight (too dim) a road flare ( bad idea ) & headlights as alternate light sources. I really like this kind of shot but a bit more gear needs to come along for it.

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I'm not sure what you are using for a flashlight, but I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Nitecore-EA4-Pioneer-Compact-Flashlight/dp/B00AEUQGR2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384135039&sr=8-2&keywords=flashlight+aa+860

I haven't gotten around to trying it with night shooting, but it seems about as bright as a car headlamp in the turbo mode.

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I just watched the new Jeff Bridges redo of True Grit last night. This photo reminded me of something from the movie. Well done.

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That is stunning. I love it.

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Inspirational - thanks.

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Great work, James.

Hope the K3 won't flop, I myself got the IIs and really enjoy using it, no plans on going for the 3

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Absolutely stunning shot! And thanks so much for the details - I love to learn about different lighting techniques.

And by the way - a K-5IIs user myself with no thoughts about upgrading.

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Excellent image.  The text describing the background of the shot just enhances it.

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You are very inspirational.

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The K-5IIs did a great job...but you are the architect of this image! Excellent work!

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Glad you are happy with what you have Jim.  

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Very nicely done, the K-5 II is still the best camera for image quality among Pentax's range.

Can't really justify the $400 premium for the other novelties the K-3 is marketed to provide.

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GossCTP wrote:

jimrpdx wrote:

Great image, and great lighting ideas - I generally have a small LED flashlight (too dim) a road flare ( bad idea ) & headlights as alternate light sources. I really like this kind of shot but a bit more gear needs to come along for it.

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I'm not sure what you are using for a flashlight, but I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Nitecore-EA4-Pioneer-Compact-Flashlight/dp/B00AEUQGR2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384135039&sr=8-2&keywords=flashlight+aa+860

I haven't gotten around to trying it with night shooting, but it seems about as bright as a car headlamp in the turbo mode.

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Jim, when doing exposures of this nature dim is better.  Bright light sources can very easily destroy the ambiance of such a scene.  The exterior of the building was bathed in soft moonlight. I only painted it with a dim LED flashlight for no more than three seconds.

As for the interior lighting, both the red and amber LEDs were wrapped with enough toilet paper to make them almost too dim to see with the naked eye.  Cameras love amber and red light and over a 15 to 30 second exposure they really drink those colors in.

I have found through trial and error that with night work of this nature that less light rather than more creates the most pleasing results.

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TitusXIII wrote:

Great work, James.

Hope the K3 won't flop, I myself got the IIs and really enjoy using it, no plans on going for the 3

No worries on the K3 flopping.  It is jammed with features and improvements that many will find to be just what they have been waiting for.  Mine was returned only because the two features I cared about most (AF speed and high ISO noise) did not seem improved enough to warrant the expenditure of $1295 for the marginal improvements over my K5 IIs.  The K3 is an outstanding camera.

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Jim Beverlin wrote:

Excellent image. The text describing the background of the shot just enhances it.

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Jim, too often people post photos with no background on the who, what, where, when and how the photos were taken.  The old saying that a picture is worth a thousand words does not always satisfy those of us who care about what went into the making of a photograph.  Glad you enjoyed this one.

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Glad you are happy with what you have Jim.

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I would say that I am satisfied.. for the time being.  Sensor noise has always been a pain in my backside, no matter what brand of camera I use.  I hope that some day a radical improvement will be made.. then I will truly be happy.

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