Who Wants a DA 29 mm f2.0 Limited Lens?

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haziz
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Who Wants a DA 29 mm f2.0 Limited Lens?
10 months ago

I have the DA 21 mm Limited, I love the lens but sometimes find it a bit too wide. Obviously I can crop, but it is always nice to crop 'in the camera' while composing. I probably would have been happier with a 24 mm lens producing the field of view of a 35 mm lens on 35 mm film.

I recently acquired the DA 40 mm Limited. Very nice, but again maybe just a hair too long.

I find myself hankering for a 29 mm f2.0 lens. Small, and unobtrusive and with "Limited" quality; hence the f2.0 rather than faster. We really need a normal lens for APSc format sensors.

So who else is hankering for a compact DA Limited 29 mm f2.0 lens?

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Seems to me the 35mm  is pretty darn close to "normal" lens. At least that is what I use for normal and at 52mm equiv it fits the bill perfectly!

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24mm 1.8 or 2.0 close focus (n/t)
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haziz wrote:

I have the DA 21 mm Limited, I love the lens but sometimes find it a bit too wide. Obviously I can crop, but it is always nice to crop 'in the camera' while composing. I probably would have been happier with a 24 mm lens producing the field of view of a 35 mm lens on 35 mm film.

I recently acquired the DA 40 mm Limited. Very nice, but again maybe just a hair too long.

I find myself hankering for a 29 mm f2.0 lens. Small, and unobtrusive and with "Limited" quality; hence the f2.0 rather than faster. We really need a normal lens for APSc format sensors.

So who else is hankering for a compact DA Limited 29 mm f2.0 lens?

I bought into another system because Pentax has refused to bring a fast standard lens to market. They need to fill that hole in their lens line.

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a pic is worth 1,000 words

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In reply to haziz, 10 months ago

I gave up asking many years ago.

Here is my post from 5 years ago: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/28315867

when there were rumors of a 30mm f2 or so lens floating around.

Now that Ricoh owns them they have a better chance of coming out with some nice new lenses

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In reply to haziz, 10 months ago

I've been using the DA21 since 2007 (on K10, K20, K-5) for more than 90% of my exposures. On occasions when I require wider or narrower view, I have the DA15 and DA40.

I have no qualms about cropping (or merging frames) or anything else in the virtual darkroom—my interest is only in the end result, and I have been very pleased with Pentax.

Having less equipment means better portability and fewer decisions to make—and better images, I believe.

FWIW, I almost never use the maximum aperture on any lens. High speed just means more size and weight.

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Nope, want a DA* (or WR like the DFA 100) 24mm f1.8-2.0

29/28mm is too long.

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drummercam wrote:

a pic is worth 1,000 words

I was thinking much the same thing, but the OP did specify compact. The 31/1.8 is a big, heavy horse of a lens. The same thing with an APS-C image circle should be much smaller. For that matter, my A35/2 is about half the size and 1/3 the weight.

But neither are what I consider a fast lens. Something in the 30mm range with an f/1.4 or faster maximum aperture would be nice.

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I have the SMC-A 24/2.8 and it's a nice focal length for sure.  Trouble is, I also have a DA16-45 and it defies me to use primes, it's excellent (though a bit slower), focuses close and its modern coating have made a significant difference in many shots.  Each added lens disturbs my dreams -er dream kit, which would now be 16-45, 70, 105 macro and 50-200 for all the rest.

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I have the DA21 but I use the K28/3.5 more. More comfortable with the FOV. It's fine at 3.5 and it's very rare that I hanker after anything faster at that length. 35-40mm is getting a bit close. But's a matter of personal taste, obviously.

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I would prefer a weather-proof DA* lens with a modern internal focusing motor. The lack of a weather-sealed prime shorter than 55mm is a serious omission, IMO. Would definitely NOT be cheap, however.

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In reply to haziz, 10 months ago

I started this thread a few months back asking the same thing.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51593473

A 27mm or 28mm seems a bit better since as mentioned the 29mm is a little close to the 31mm. Plus 28mm on crop sensor is close to 43mm on 'FF', which is a nice FOV. I'd also take a 24mm if it came to that.

I would have to agree that a weather sealed DA* would be beneficial in this range, as there are no primes that are wide angle under the 55mm. And it's nice to be able to leave a camera on a tripod for night time lapses without having to worry about weather.

Would be nice to see something appear on the road map.

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Gary Martin wrote:

I would prefer a weather-proof DA* lens with a modern internal focusing motor. The lack of a weather-sealed prime shorter than 55mm is a serious omission, IMO. Would definitely NOT be cheap, however.

I totally agree. There are only 2 small gaps in the current lineup of special (LTD or SDM or */WR) lenses:

DA 15 ltd
DA 21 ltd
--> DA*26 SDM (WR)
FA 31 ltd
DA 35 macro ltd
DA 40 ltd
FA 43 ltd
--> DFA 50 macro WR
DA*55 SDM (WR)
DA 70 ltd
FA 77 ltd
DFA 100 macro WR
DA* 200 (WR)
DA* 300 (WR)

But the size/weight-advantage of primes is gone if you buy all of them

And the WR-advantage is useless if you have to change prime lenses every minute.

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There are the A and M 28mm f2 lenses - fairly small and light but MF only of course. The K version is much bigger and heavier. Then there was the FA*24 f2 - highest grade but not so small. The FA*31 f1.8 has been mentioned but it isn't that size just through malice on the part of Pentax. A re-design might be able to use fewer elements though. There is unlikely to be any size benefit in designing an APS-C specific lens at these focal lengths.

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Though personally, I'd prefer a 24mm, because I'm not interested in the slow-ass 21.  For me the perfect set of short primes would be 12, 24, and 50.  The 12 can be slow but the other two need to be faster.  The only one I've got is the 50.

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Wouldn't it clash in sales

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But the size/weight-advantage of primes is gone if you buy all of them

Not really, I can divide up the load a lot easier with primes rather than a couple of fat zooms.

And the WR-advantage is useless if you have to change prime lenses every minute.

This, of course, is not true at all. Not even close.

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