Fujifilm XF 27 f/2.8 Lenstip Review

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Fujifilm XF 27 f/2.8 Lenstip Review
Oct 12, 2013

Extremely positive review of the XF 27 f/2.8. The MTF resolution test scores are extremely impressive equalling the 35 f/1.4 in the center. AF is fast and accurate. Vignetting and high price are the only criticisms from Lenstip.

There is also an interesting discussion of dcraw and their new "3-pass X-Trans" algorithm which they are now using at Lenstip for all future Fujifilm lens tests (see Image Resolution page).

See link below for the review.

Lenstip XF 27 f/2.8 Lens Test

There is also more on Lenstip for Fujifilm X users, they also review the 2 new Zeiss Touit lenses which you can find listed on the Lenstip homepage.

All the best and happy shooting, Markus

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Its an f3.5 lens, that can't focus reasonably close and costs $450.

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I think you'll find its an F2.8 lens, unless you are talking depth of field equivalence and not exposure. In which case you should probably state what format you are comparing it to and what aspect.

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There's been an awful lot of complaint about this lens from, I presume, people who've never owned it. Yes, it's a bit pricey, but how many used examples are up for sale? Not many Benny.

I'm well into it for a number of reasons, not least the "toy" appearance to the untrained eye. This makes it ideal for street; I keep going back to it, because it's fun and the images are pleasing.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95540165@N08/10193278146/

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Do you convert all crop sensor lenses to FF equivalent?
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uniball wrote:

Its an f3.5 lens, that can't focus reasonably close and costs $450.

So what? It's tiny and provides similar high IQ as the 35 f/1.4.

Do you always convert all X lenses to their FF DOF equivalent aperture?  That must really take all the fun out of shooting crop sensor cameras.

The reviewer mentions it's price as a con.

Anyway, I was just posting a link to an outstanding review for an X mount lens review.   Next time I'll keep it to myself.

Geez, No wonder I don't post on this forum more often.  The negativity is palpable.

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Thanks for posting!

No criticism of you Or the lens.

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marike6 wrote:

uniball wrote:

Its an f3.5 lens, that can't focus reasonably close and costs $450.

So what? It's tiny and provides similar high IQ as the 35 f/1.4.

Do you always convert all X lenses to their FF DOF equivalent aperture? That must really take all the fun out of shooting crop sensor cameras.

The reviewer mentions it's price as a con.

Anyway, I was just posting a link to an outstanding review for an X mount lens review. Next time I'll keep it to myself.

Geez, No wonder I don't post on this forum more often. The negativity is palpable.

There is no FF equivalent of aperture. 2.8 is 2.8. Read the review and you'll understand my comment.

"At the maximum relative aperture the lens doesn’t provide useful images; in order to get them you have to stop it down to about f/3.5. In the range from f/5.6 to f/8.0 the image is already fully useful but far from its frame centre quality."

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Not sure I'd call it extremely positive.  He seems pretty bent out of shape about the price.

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57LowRider wrote:

There's been an awful lot of complaint about this lens from, I presume, people who've never owned it. Yes, it's a bit pricey, but how many used examples are up for sale? Not many Benny.

I'm well into it for a number of reasons, not least the "toy" appearance to the untrained eye. This makes it ideal for street; I keep going back to it, because it's fun and the images are pleasing.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95540165@N08/10193278146/

Agree 100%

The lens has a number of unique selling points for the X-Series, which positions it as a valid addition to the set, even if you purchase the 23mm f/1.4

It delivers excellent image quality in the smallest Fuji package available to date

I have an ongoing Flickr set for the 27mm Lens here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dodkin/sets/72157634915780581/

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There's been an awful lot of complaint about this lens from, I presume, people who've never owned it. Yes, it's a bit pricey, but how many used examples are up for sale? Not many Benny.

I'm well into it for a number of reasons, not least the "toy" appearance to the untrained eye. This makes it ideal for street; I keep going back to it, because it's fun and the images are pleasing.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95540165@N08/10193278146/

Agreed. I have it and use it a lot. It's a very natural complement to the 18 and the 2 make a nice street kit.
Dunno about bad f/stops, sharpness etc. I'm just a shooter that makes photos and not test charts.

Price, $450.00 cheap enuff for a lens that gives you the 40mm FOV and works with the 28mm.
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marike6 wrote:

uniball wrote:

Its an f3.5 lens, that can't focus reasonably close and costs $450.

So what? It's tiny and provides similar high IQ as the 35 f/1.4.

Do you always convert all X lenses to their FF DOF equivalent aperture? That must really take all the fun out of shooting crop sensor cameras.

The reviewer mentions it's price as a con.

Anyway, I was just posting a link to an outstanding review for an X mount lens review. Next time I'll keep it to myself.

Geez, No wonder I don't post on this forum more often. The negativity is palpable.

Well keep on posting....  I appreciate the info and review you cited. Also, I generally am not anal about anything. All new info is good. All is well.

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"At the maximum relative aperture the lens doesn’t provide useful images; in order to get them you have to stop it down to about f/3.5. In the range from f/5.6 to f/8.0 the image is already fully useful but far from its frame centre quality."

Sorry to say, comments like that are just lens tester BS - Fuji 27mm @ f/2.8

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If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

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If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

Because it gives a completely different field of view to the 35mm....

I know that's stating the obvious, but it's the main reason to buy a lens with a different focal length

If it's the price that's the main worry - just wait till you see one used at a price you like

May take a while though

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Absolutic wrote:

If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

Because it gives a completely different field of view to the 35mm....

I know that's stating the obvious, but it's the main reason to buy a lens with a different focal length

If it's the price that's the main worry - just wait till you see one used at a price you like

May take a while though

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Oh u mean a difference between 40mm and 50mm effective length? I see.

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Absolutic wrote:

Absolutic wrote:

If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

Because it gives a completely different field of view to the 35mm....

I know that's stating the obvious, but it's the main reason to buy a lens with a different focal length

If it's the price that's the main worry - just wait till you see one used at a price you like

May take a while though

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Oh u mean a difference between 40mm and 50mm effective length? I see.

quite noticeable...

Also the stealth factor - especially for street work - the 35mm is very visible and attracts more attention than the 27mm.

The 27mm makes the camera look like a snap and shoot - so doesn't get the attention.

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Absolutic wrote:

Absolutic wrote:

If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

Because it gives a completely different field of view to the 35mm....

I know that's stating the obvious, but it's the main reason to buy a lens with a different focal length

If it's the price that's the main worry - just wait till you see one used at a price you like

May take a while though

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Oh u mean a difference between 40mm and 50mm effective length? I see.

I wouldn't be dismissive of such a difference, if that is what you intended.

I have shot quite a bit over the years with both 50mm and 40mm prime lenses. Although the FOV doesn't differ dramatically, it differs enough to commend itself to different types of shooting. The 50mm is narrow enough to imagine portraits of individuals and isolated objects.  The 40mm, on the other hand, lends itself more to vistas, groups, and shots of individuals in context. I have always been able to "see" 40mm shots better than 50mm shots. If I'm going to a party and want to grab some shots of people enjoying the gathering, I would reach for the 40mm before the 50mm almost every time.

If 40mm and 50mm are nothing more than numbers on a page to you, then it might seem absurd to own both.  If you have a history, on the other hand, with both focal lengths, you will have developed a sense for their differences, and might utilize each for different kinds of shots, or might simply prefer one over the other.

I own both the Fuji 27mm and 35mm. They are both impressive. Sometimes I choose one and sometimes the other, but one thing I never do is to think of them as essentially the same because the number 40 is close to 50.

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Absolutic wrote:

If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

Flare-resistant, doesn't need a hood. Has character.

That was a great price you got the 35 for; I agree, I see where you're coming from, seeing as I own both. I think "smallest size" plays a big part if you like street photography and, in fact, any situation where you don't want to intimidate - and believe me, the 35 + hood is big enough to intimidate. The other size-related plus is that you're more likely to have your camera slung around your neck just going up to the shops for a pint of milk, like me earlier:

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Absolutic wrote:

If I already have 35/1.4 what is the benefit of 27/2.8 besides the size advantage?

I know m43 has 20/1.7 and 25/1.4 discussion (one is significantly smaller and cheaper than the other while both are pretty bright wide open)

However can someone point any reason to buy a 2.8 $450 prime When my 35/1.4 cost me $400 used and an amazing lens that is sharp wide open, pretty light weight.

I am willing to listen. Other than smaller size any other advantages?

AF speed for one. It's extremely fast. In addition it turns either of the larger Fuji bodies into a "flat" camera like the X100/S, which can fit into a bag front pocket. As Chris and others point out, it's an exceptionally sharp lens in the centre.

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If you have a history, on the other hand, with both focal lengths, you will have developed a sense for their differences, and might utilize each for different kinds of shots, or might simply prefer one over the other.

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I do.   Ive shot probably thousands of shots with 50mm on a full frame, and before it on film.  I also shot probably close to 4000 shots on m43 with 20mm 1.7 lens which is 40mm equivalent.     Further, I did try 40mm 2.8 pencake on Canon 5DM3 when I was shooting Canon full frame, but I returned it as I found 2.8 on a pancake too pedestrian in terms of light power, as I've used to shooting with F/1.2-1.8 prime lenses on Full frame.   Perhaps I am just prejudiced against slow primes (I also owned 19 and 30/2.8 Sigma primes on Sony NEX and did not like those either).  I feel that it is generally easier to design a prime than a zoom, and 2.8 is for zooms.   On the other hand I own Fuji X100s with F/2 lens so I guess I contradict myself 

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