That was too close, E-M5 saved.

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Ron Evers
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That was too close, E-M5 saved.
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I was walking along when I felt the camera strap slipping across the back of my neck.  I quickly grasped the loose end just before the camera was about to hit the ground.  The strap lug came out of the camera body.

Strap lug failure.

Two months out of warranty.

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Re: That was too close, E-M5 saved.

Whoa, that was close, nice save Ron…Olympus repair work, not the fastest, but I am sure they will check the other one as well while they have it?

Only thing I found concerning:

http://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=31613

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That is just one more reason I don't much like the lugs.  I prefer the way the G3, Canon 60D, Sony A700, etc., etc., etc. do it.  Those lugs can come out and in your case one did.  A good way to end up with a busted camera.  Glad you saved it at the last second.

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Whoa Ron!

So glad you "caught" this mishap before it turned really nasty and expensive.

This is twice now, I have read about the camera body - strap lug, PULLING loose from the body!

Unbelievable! I thought Olympus' Quality Control was MUCH BETTER than this?

All it would take it ONE crash and could destroy camera and/or lens, man I am shuddering to think of it happening...

Sorry it happened... and Thanks for bringing it to my (and others) attention, to keep a watchful eye,,, out for this type pf potential failure..

Have a nice day....

Ed

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The new Leica M had a recall earlier in the year for the same problem....

So its not just Olympus QC.

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Blimey that should not happen.  

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Wow, that's bad, second time I read this on this board. Kid of scary. Olympus should be responsible for any damage to the camera if the strap lugs fails. But of course they won't...

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Good warning. Apply super glue! nt

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Isabel Cutler
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Re: Egads! Thanks for sharing!

I use handstraps with my cameras and when using two because I need two different lens I will hang one camera from my wrist while using the other.

This is a good warning!

I never before heard of a lug coming out of a camera.

Isabel

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Big Ga Forum Pro • Posts: 18,624
Re: Egads! Thanks for sharing!

Isabel Cutler wrote:

I never before heard of a lug coming out of a camera.

Not uncommon. Especially with Olympus.

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Re: That was too close, E-M5 saved.

Ron Evers wrote:

I was walking along when I felt the camera strap slipping across the back of my neck. I quickly grasped the loose end just before the camera was about to hit the ground. The strap lug came out of the camera body.

Strap lug failure.

Two months out of warranty.

Thi is outrageous! I'd contact Oly and send the photo. I think that this kind of damage Oly has to fix for free.

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rrr_hhh Veteran Member • Posts: 6,023
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Henry Richardson wrote:

That is just one more reason I don't much like the lugs. I prefer the way the G3, Canon 60D, Sony A700, etc., etc., etc. do it. Those lugs can come out and in your case one did. A good way to end up with a busted camera. Glad you saved it at the last second.

While it is the first time I'm reading about this problem on an Olympus body, I can remember several threads concerning the Panasonic G1 lugs coming off of the camera. After that I kept checking my G1 and indeed I noted that the lugs were unscrewing and getting loose easily. I think that was fixed in ulterior bodies, as I didn't have that problem with the G3.

Indeed, on the G1 the lugs were the same as those found on Olympus bodies :

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Good grief.  One more reason to insure your camera equipment, folks.  My homeowner rider costs $30/year with zero deductible.

The op made a helluva catch.  I doubt I would have been so lucky.

Ron Evers
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rrr_hhh wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

That is just one more reason I don't much like the lugs. I prefer the way the G3, Canon 60D, Sony A700, etc., etc., etc. do it. Those lugs can come out and in your case one did. A good way to end up with a busted camera. Glad you saved it at the last second.

While it is the first time I'm reading about this problem on an Olympus body, I can remember several threads concerning the Panasonic G1 lugs coming off of the camera. After that I kept checking my G1 and indeed I noted that the lugs were unscrewing and getting loose easily. I think that was fixed in ulterior bodies, as I didn't have that problem with the G3.

Indeed, on the G1 the lugs were the same as those found on Olympus bodies :

I believe the Lug problem with the G1s were limited to the ones made in China.  Mine was made in Japan & the lugs are solid to this day.

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Isabel Cutler
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Re: Thanks for the warning...

Big Ga wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

I never before heard of a lug coming out of a camera.

Not uncommon. Especially with Olympus.

I guess I won't be hanging Olympus cameras from wrist straps!  Maybe, I shouldn't hang my GH2 either!

Isabel

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Barry Stewart
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Good catch

It's hard to tell — but are the lugs the same design as my E-PL5's. Is there a thread that they are nutted to, from inside? (I just gave mine a good tug, and they are fine for now. Still a few months under warranty, though...)

I remember a similar catch of my own, about 20 years ago. I was riding my Honda scooter at city speeds, with my fully-loaded camera bag over my shoulder. I felt the weight turn to nothing and just slammed my hand against my chest to trap the strap.

"Phew!"

I rethreaded the strap through the grommet and sewed it in place when I got home. I know sewing won't help in this case.

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3DrJ Senior Member • Posts: 1,027
Super glue not the best option

If the lug "socket" and stud are both made of common metals, the best material is probably an epoxy resin formulated for metal-to-metal adhesion.  Epoxies are usually quite good at filling gaps, compensating for "looseness" of fit of parts joined.

OTOH, potential "side effects" of gluing the lug to the body are valid reasons to send it in for repair vs. DIY approach.  This is doubly true if the camera is still under warranty.

However, if not under warranty, and I was sure about lug/socket materials, and certain that the resin wouldn't "leak" beyond the socket in the body, I'd sure consider mounting the lug as described, knowing it definitely would never come out again.

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Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 16,263
Re: That was too close, E-M5 saved.

rrr_hhh wrote:

While it is the first time I'm reading about this problem on an Olympus body, I can remember several threads concerning the Panasonic G1 lugs coming off of the camera. After that I kept checking my G1 and indeed I noted that the lugs were unscrewing and getting loose easily. I think that was fixed in ulterior bodies, as I didn't have that problem with the G3.

The G3 doesn't have lugs so that is why you didn't have the problem.  Most cameras these days don't have lugs, but the E-M5 does.  Back 40 years ago lugs were common, but not anymore.

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Ron Evers wrote:

I was walking along when I felt the camera strap slipping across the back of my neck. I quickly grasped the loose end just before the camera was about to hit the ground. The strap lug came out of the camera body. ...

... Two months out of warranty. ...

Healthy reflexes saved you from catastrophe!  Haven't seen loose lugs, but I've worried it could happen.  Closest I've experienced is a couple of times when straps looped through lugs have lost their grip and a similar "save" was necessary.

From the photos, it's hard to "diagnose" the "cause" of this failure.  It would be interesting to see closeup pictures of the lug and the "socket" it was inserted into on the body.  I wondered if the hole was a discrete "blind" tunnel, or a gaping cavern, clues to how the lug was anchored, or was supposed to be anchored, in the first place.

A bit of discussion above describes DIY ways to permanently reinstall the lug.  While easy to do, there are reasons to consider it carefully before plunging in.

Jules.

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WhiteBeard
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Not exactly true, I'm afraid. While I don't understand the reasoning behind the choice of fixed D rings versus moving triangles, I have to notice that Panasonic has chosen the D rings for their "middle-of-the-road" G-series (G3, G5, G6) and the older (more expensive?) moving triangle for their top-of-the-line GH-Series, as did Olympus with the E-M1 and E-M5. I have had both types of lugs on different cameras and in the end find that the simpler fixed D rings are quieter and safer than their jingling counterparts especially after having heard plenty of comments on lug failures, especially on the GH1. The only potential - yet to be proven - advantage of the moving triangle lug could be less friction and possible wear on the strap but even if this were the case, this wear and tear would be easily visible and the strap replaced or simply re-adjusted to "expose" another part of it before failing. This is of course impossible with the lug and triangle design were all that is left is hope or epoxy...

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