* Wed C&C (No Theme) Thread, Ed. 282, 13 09 18 *

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* Wed C&C (No Theme) Thread, Ed. 282, 13 09 18 *
Sep 18, 2013

Welcome to the Wednesday Comments and Critique (No Theme) thread!

We’re continuing the great tradition of this C&C thread because we’re convinced that looking at and talking about images is vital for better photography, and also useful for understanding and appreciating our gear.

The idea is simple: you post an image and get critique on it, and in return give other people your opinion of their images. Or vice versa: you give others your honest feedback, and in return deserve the right to post your own picture for C&C.

Generally, you should post only one single image for C&C. As an exception, you can post two pictures resulting from one shutter release but with different treatment (for example a color and a black & white version, or a different crop) for us to choose from and comment on.

TWO RULES:

1.If you post an image, you critique at least one other image.

2.Keep your comments honest but polite; if you don’t care for an image, try to explain why. This is neither a “Good shot!” nor an image-bashing thread.

Any style, any camera. It is a peer-to-peer photography workshop!

Feedback is guaranteed (for up to 48 hours after the thread has started)! Though keep in mind that the thread tends to be busiest during the first 24 hours or so, so later image posts may get little feedback.

HOW TO PLAY:

1.Turn on "Threaded view" and reply to this post with a web-sized image. Change the title so we can sort different images out easily!

2.Get back to this thread in a minute, an hour or a day or so, and…

3.…still in threaded view, look at one or more pictures of your choice, click reply and critique it.

4.Remember to add the EXIF if your image doesn't embed it as this may help

5.Image posters: please consider telling us what your own opinion on your image is. What prompted you to click that shutter button? What did you see? Why do you like the result? You don't have to explain, but it might be interesting.

6.You are very welcome to post agroup replyto the feedback you have gotten. This could include a new version of your image, taking on board the comments received. Please try not to reply individually to every comment so as not to fill up the thread on your own.

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WELCOME! AND BE SURE TO READ THIS:

•The critique you give (point 3 from the above list) is vital. What was your first impression? What catches your eye about an image? Why? What do you like, and what distracts you? What would you change?

•Fiddle with the image in your head - composition, perspective, color balance, exposure. If the poster of the image does not object, you may even consider downloading his image and fiddling with it for real, to illustrate your point.

•More general feedback is also welcome. Do you know something about taking the same sort of image that would make matters easier - share your own as an example in your reply. Encourage - it is a scary business putting your work up for other people to judge!

•Finally what is the verdict? Waste-bin? Snapshot? Could be better? Family Album? Frame on wall? Poster-size frame on wall? Billboard? Reuters? World Press Photo? National Geographic? Museum? (pick your own superlative here)

One of the first replies is “The Related Post”. This is the place to post your general, not image-specific musings about this great enterprise called the C&C Thread.

Another of the first replies includes a link to all previous threads. This is called "Our Archives Vault".

Andrew (19andrew47)

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* The Related Post *
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

This is a placeholder for anything related to the C&C threads. And we do mean anything: feel free to start a discussion about the threads, or how you felt when your image was trashed by some mean know-it-all (probably not in this thread, though), or how it feels trying to say something polite about a cr @ ppy image posted for review (tough one).

This is also the place to make arrangements and share ideas for keeping this thread alive and kicking. Or for starting a new "Photo Essay" or "Series" thread, as has been suggested in the past (plenty of “Weekly” this-and-that threads around, so why not?).

The C&C participants will be more than happy to consider all input. Eager, even.

Andrew

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* Our Archives *
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Here is the list of all recent editions of this wonderful experiment: our weekly exercise in ruthless peer-to-peer coaching for better photography; a refuge from gear discussions.

Recent editions:

Week 281 September 11, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52143865

Week 280 September 04, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52103283

Week 279 August 28, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52062505

Week 278 August 21, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52019626

Week 277 August 14, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51978967

Week 276 August 07, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51939855

Week 275 July 31, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51900185

Week 274 July 24, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51858821

Week 273 July 17, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51818864

Week 272 July 10, 2013 - by 19andrew48 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51780764

Week 271 July 03, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51740175

Week 270 June 26, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51702010

Week 269 June 19, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51663951

Week 268 June 12, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51624855

Week 267 June 05, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51585716

Week 266 May 29, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51545941

Week 265 May 22, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51506915

Week 264 May 15, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51468087

Week 263 May 8, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51426258

Week 262 May 1, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51386658

Week 261 April 24, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51345476

Week 260 April 17, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51304082

Week 259 April 10, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51259357

Week 258 April 3, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51201856

Week 257 Mar 27, 2013 - by 19andrew47 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51165522

Week 256 Mar 20, 2013 - by 19andrew47) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51120138

Week 255 (Mar 13, 2013 - by 19andrew47) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/51027207

Week 254 (Mar 06, 2013 - by Zindanfel) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50988892

Week 253 (Feb 27, 2013 - by 19andrew47) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50937262

Week 252 (Feb 20, 2013 - by 19andrew47) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50891576

Week 251 (Feb 13, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50851097

Week 250 (Feb 6, 2013) - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50807522

Week 249 (Jan 30, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50765099

Week 248 (Jan 23, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50720984

Week 247 (Jan 16, 2013 - by Lou Holland) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50677069

All threads of 2012:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50996742

All threads of 2011:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40228457

All threads of 2010:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=37375543

All threads of 2009:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=34168706

All threads of 2008:

(Jonas started this thread on April 2, 2008) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=30596254

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Antique Jewelry
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Well, sort of has that look anyway for me.  Grill details from a 1933 Studebaker that looked like it was in original unrestored condition.  Some visible paint damage, surface rust but all in all in very good shape considering its age.

Andrew

Two versions of the same image.

12 - 50 mm

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Re: Antique Jewelry
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

I'm still waiting for a 1930's ish Packard to grace these pages

That grill has seen some minor damage it seems.  And the grill is what is (or isn't) selling me in these shots.  I like the Art Deco touch to the badge in image one and find the badge in image two less appealing.  But then in image one I don't like the purplishness (new word) of the grill but do like the presentation of that grill in image two.  Dunno how you can fix that though.

Great car.

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Swan Flower..
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Butomus umbellatus, in Dutch.. Zwanenbloem or a simple translation, Swan Flower.

Lou

Thanks for looking & Comments

E3, 14-54mmII, F8.0, ET1/250, ISO100

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In reply to LouHolland, Sep 18, 2013

Lou

Impressive subject, impressive image and composition and dynamic colour range.

My only nit is the numbers on the grey part of the image?  Any reason they are there and if none maybe clone out??

Thanks for making my day

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Echoing Andrew's grillework theme...
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Two-way conversation.

Shot on a ferry ride to Seattle.

The picture quality isn't very good, so I tried to mitigate that by using a vignette tool in PhotoScape.  Not sure why I shot this with such weird camera settings -- not paying attention, I suppose.

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Portrait of an EM5 user (just for fun!)
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

In the portrait below you will note characteristics of an EM5 user:  stout girth supported by huge belt buckle with miniature camera held in large hands and also the very tiny head!  Lest you judge him too harshly though, a close inspection would show an E3 hanging from the spyder holster on his right hip.    In case you are interested the car is a 1928 Ford Model A and part of it will be a subject you will see here in the future.

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In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

A split second timed shot from a comedy skit (definitely some luck involved: a second later the were out of the main light and their backs were turned to me) . I'm still mulling this one over as far as possible B&W version or a tighter crop. So far this is the version I favor, but that could change next week!

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In reply to CharlesB58, Sep 18, 2013

Great timing Charles. You captured the moment. They seem to be lost in their work.

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Rising moon and sunset over Fox Ridge
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

I call this place Fox Ridge for the fox that show up here at sunset. My wife and I hiked up here on Sunday and saw two deer near the top, which is rare for this 4200 foot high ridge, a mile or two from any surface water. Before the Station Fire of 2009 there was a fiberglass cistern just over the rise that saved water for the animals to drink. That water attracted deer and fox. We're starting to see them return again this year. I want to build another watering trough.

The low grey box in the middle is a concrete cistern that holds 6500 gallons of water, locked up for use by the Forest Service. I told Andrew a story about this place below my photo in the Sunday Scapes thread about Strawberry Peak.

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Fox Ridge

For perspective, the same place seen from the other direction a few months ago when the yucca were blooming. Concrete tank on the left and burnt tree just past it.

Fox Ridge

The same ridge looking towards the road/trail. The tank is visible here too. We like to picnic in the shade of these trees.

Fox Ridge

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Re: Echoing Andrew's grillework theme...
In reply to Zindanfel, Sep 18, 2013

Hi Zin,

I don't hear the echo but I see the intersecting lines. She's on a third line in the 4th dimension. Intangible and invisible but implied. Nice work and good eye, as always.

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Re: Antique Jewelry
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Hi mate like detail images launch as this one. Of the two you have posted the first holds my attention longer, I like the colours playing around on the badge.

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In reply to LouHolland, Sep 18, 2013

Hi mate stunning image I would not thought it possible for still water to give such depth to an image. The standout colours and framing have much to do with that as well. The sharpness is first rate too. One of your best.

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Re: Echoing Andrew's grillework theme...
In reply to Zindanfel, Sep 18, 2013

Hi mate great subject, and as you mention the settings used have change the image. It looks like the camera focused (if auto focus was being used) on the vent behind the man. Not surprising as any AF system would like that target.

Your work in post production has add interest to the image and the B/W works for me.

You have reminded me to reset my ISO after shooting last night 

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Re: Portrait of an EM5 user (just for fun!)
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

I knew that there was a reason I did not buy an EM5 

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Re: The Kiss
In reply to CharlesB58, Sep 18, 2013

Hi mate looks like high drama in this image, so well timed and the framing works a treat as well. Not sure about a B/W version, I like the warm colours adds to the mood for me.

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Re: Rising moon and sunset over Fox Ridge
In reply to dave gaines, Sep 18, 2013

Hi mate great series.That will grow over time  (no pun intended) as the trees come back. Looks like a great place to walk.

As a point of interest how tall is that Yucca?

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Some place that you would rather be...
In reply to 19andrew47, Sep 18, 2013

Hi everyone, one from the back of my gallery.

I don't remember posting it here, it's been a busy week and its a place I love to pass some time.

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