2013-14 Lens Roadmap

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2013-14 Lens Roadmap
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Sorry if this has been posted already. It's been a long time since I saw a lens roadmap so I thought I'd pass it along (it was posted on the "The Phoblographer" website recently).

Disappointing to see Olympus abandon the 4/3 line like this.  I understand it - but it would have been nice to finally get an HG 400mm prime and 100mm macro.

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Thanks for posting this, I guess.  The problem is that Olympus seems to have been less than consistent in following through.  One the one hand, we never got the 100mm (or so) macro.

OTOH we did finally get the 14-35 f2.

Does anyone know whether the "super telephoto" in the mFT area is simply a misplaced title for the 300 f2.8 in the FT are above it, or promise of an mFT lense in that category.

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erichK wrote:

Thanks for posting this, I guess. The problem is that Olympus seems to have been less than consistent in following through. One the one hand, we never got the 100mm (or so) macro.

OTOH we did finally get the 14-35 f2.

Does anyone know whether the "super telephoto" in the mFT area is simply a misplaced title for the 300 f2.8 in the FT are above it, or promise of an mFT lense in that category.

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I think the rumor is that they are planning to launch u4/3 300mm F4.

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dahod wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already. It's been a long time since I saw a lens roadmap so I thought I'd pass it along (it was posted on the "The Phoblographer" website recently).

Disappointing to see Olympus abandon the 4/3 line like this. I understand it - but it would have been nice to finally get an HG 400mm prime and 100mm macro.

Dave

Thanks for this info Dave.  Olympus 4/3 has in the past been criticized for a limited lens selection.
The EM-1  pulls both  sides together now.

As for the 400mm,  as a bird shooter a 400mm would be nice for me. However I'm glad it's not there on the map.  why ? because it should mean that the 90-250 and the 300mm will continue to be supported via PDAF as the premium wildlife lenses. A new 400mm mFT lens would IMO give Olympus a way out to ease back on any further PDAF improvements.

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That's an interesting table. It's good to see a statement that the 4/3 lenses are part of the E-M1 system. That may mean a surge in resale value for all those 4/3 lenses out there.

We do have an excellent 100 mm macro lens. When you add the EX-25 to the 35-100 mm f/2 lens you get an amazingly sharp bright lens that focuses at about 3:1 max. It works like the 50-200 mm lens on the EX-25 but sharper with better bokeh if you can imagine that. Take a look at the macro shots I posted in last week's Close-up thread or my thread titled "the Olympus 100 mm macro lens" about 2 weeks ago.

I think a 400 mm telephoto is really long. It's longer than anything the competition sells other than specialty lenses. A prime 300 mm f/4 would be a very expensive lens, as m4/3 lenses go. The diameter would likely be the same as the 150 m f/2.

The m4/3 super zoom is the 40-150 mm f/2.8 shown on the roadmap, scheduled to be released in the middle of next year.

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In reply to dave gaines, 7 months ago

That's right - I'd forgot about your earlier post using the 35-100.  That's a lot of lens but you can't argue with the results.

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In reply to JDCamera, 7 months ago

Looks to me that Oly is about to leverage one of the major advantages of using a smaller sensor. They position that place holder further along than ... say ... their 75 - 300 mm.

In fact, it sort of looks like it STARTS at 150 mm at the 'wide' end.

It's about bl00dy time.

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Thanks. 150-400 mm telephoto?
In reply to dahod, 7 months ago

dahod wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already. It's been a long time since I saw a lens roadmap so I thought I'd pass it along (it was posted on the "The Phoblographer" website recently).

Disappointing to see Olympus abandon the 4/3 line like this. I understand it - but it would have been nice to finally get an HG 400mm prime and 100mm macro.

Dave

Interesting to see that.

I wonder if the "Super-telephoto lens" may be a 150-400 mm, as Sigma have been producing for a while now for other mounts. A constant f/4 version built for MicroFT could be relatively light, judging from the 40-150 f/2.8.

Edit:

Just realised it doesn't say "zoom".  So a wide-angle zoom but not a super-tele zoom?  Hmm.

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A new 400mm mFT lens would IMO give Olympus a way out to ease back on any further PDAF improvements.

PDAF is now also used for improving CAF performance in m4/3, so they will keep PDAFOS (on sensor) for that anyway. Hence 4/3 lens support will be retained in new bodies to come as well.

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Re: Thanks. 150-400 mm telephoto?
In reply to boggis the cat, 7 months ago

The white boxes are just placeholders for the text. We won't be getting a 5-22mm wideangle zoom!

What is promised is a 7-14mm f2.8 and, as stated above, a 300mm f4.

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fraserhadden wrote:

The white boxes are just placeholders for the text. We won't be getting a 5-22mm wideangle zoom!

What is promised is a 7-14mm f2.8 and, as stated above, a 300mm f4.

Fraser

Those are just someone's guesses based on the placeholder.  No one knows exactly what focal length and speed is coming but I too would like a 300mm f4.  I think it would be the best compromise between length and weight.

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Re: Thanks. 150-400 mm telephoto?
In reply to SHood, 7 months ago

Perhaps we are at cross-purposes here.

The poster to whom I replied seemed to think that the spread of the placeholder maybe indicated the focal length range of the lenses described in the placeholders.

My point was that the placeholders aren't the basis for any detailed guess at all. I proposed that they are the size they are to accommodate the descriptive text at a legible font size.

The rumour mill has come up with the 7-14mm f2.8 and 300mm f4 as candidates. This 'information' has appeared elsewhere on the site, but not hitherto in this thread, so I put it in.

I'd like the former and you'd like the latter. We have created a market!

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Right now, there is nothing 'Pro' planned longer than 150mm.

If Oly only releases a 300 F4 prime, then there is a gap between 150 mm and 300 mm in the 'pro range' That's assuming it wouldn't be classed as a 'Premium' lens along with all the other primes.

On the other hand, a 150-600 mm lens, for example, would make a stonking good 'super' zoom. That's the same zoom as the 50-200 (4 x). But even a 150-450 would be an awesome addition.

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How about a u4/3 350/2.8....... that would be awesome!

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How about a u4/3 350/2.8....... that would be awesome!

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I could maybe see a 350/4.0, but a 2.8? I suspect it would be ginormous, certainly in the ballpark of the current 300/2.8. IIUC The transition from 4/3 to µ4/3 doesn't alleviate the ratio required between the front element and the focal length at a given max aperture.

With that said, i'm all in for a prime in the 300mm neighborhood. Native µ4/3 autofocus at this point is much better than 4/3, and the hybrid AF system should increase the gap. And maybe that in turn would get Oly to release a µ4/3 teleconverter.

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erichK wrote:

Thanks for posting this, I guess. The problem is that Olympus seems to have been less than consistent in following through. One the one hand, we never got the 100mm (or so) macro.

OTOH we did finally get the 14-35 f2.

Does anyone know whether the "super telephoto" in the mFT area is simply a misplaced title for the 300 f2.8 in the FT are above it, or promise of an mFT lense in that category.

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I think the rumor is that they are planning to launch u4/3 300mm F4.

It's to short for a lot of our uses. Also no EC's available. A birding lens starts at around 400mm (Just)

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dahod wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already. It's been a long time since I saw a lens roadmap so I thought I'd pass it along (it was posted on the "The Phoblographer" website recently).

Disappointing to see Olympus abandon the 4/3 line like this. I understand it - but it would have been nice to finally get an HG 400mm prime and 100mm macro.

Dave

Thanks for this info Dave. Olympus 4/3 has in the past been criticized for a limited lens selection.
The EM-1 pulls both sides together now.

As for the 400mm, as a bird shooter a 400mm would be nice for me. However I'm glad it's not there on the map. why ? because it should mean that the 90-250 and the 300mm will continue to be supported via PDAF as the premium wildlife lenses. A new 400mm mFT lens would IMO give Olympus a way out to ease back on any further PDAF improvements.

Peter

Peter as a  birder/wildlife shooter I posted above that a 300mm f/4 is to short for birding if you don't have a EC.

A  lot of my stuff is shoot form between 400m to 500mm especially for the small birds. a 300mm with out a tele converter   is a limited lens in that you can only shoot at one length and have to zoom with you feet. I know you have the 300mm F/2.8 + EC's . and maybe have a different view.  Maybe I am wrong but that's  why I got the 90-250 so that I can zoom and use the EC's.

The advantage of a fixed length  lens is the constant performance and not the variables at different focal lengths.

A rumored 150-350 f/4 would be better but not on your pocket. also no EC. It also is not going to be tiny.

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If memory serves, the Pen F range back in the time had a 400mm 6.3 as well as a very nice mirror 800mm f8. I can very well see a 400ish 5.6 or faster show up.

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The rumor is that Olympus is designing a 400mm F/4 for Sony. I Don't know if its A or E mount.

If it E then there could be a m4/3 version. It will cost though.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-the-400mm-f4-0-lens-will-be-the-first-designed-with-olympus/

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Messier Object wrote:

dahod wrote:

Sorry if this has been posted already. It's been a long time since I saw a lens roadmap so I thought I'd pass it along (it was posted on the "The Phoblographer" website recently).

Disappointing to see Olympus abandon the 4/3 line like this. I understand it - but it would have been nice to finally get an HG 400mm prime and 100mm macro.

Dave

Thanks for this info Dave. Olympus 4/3 has in the past been criticized for a limited lens selection.
The EM-1 pulls both sides together now.

As for the 400mm, as a bird shooter a 400mm would be nice for me. However I'm glad it's not there on the map. why ? because it should mean that the 90-250 and the 300mm will continue to be supported via PDAF as the premium wildlife lenses. A new 400mm mFT lens would IMO give Olympus a way out to ease back on any further PDAF improvements.

Peter

Peter as a birder/wildlife shooter I posted above that a 300mm f/4 is to short for birding if you don't have a EC.

A lot of my stuff is shoot form between 400m to 500mm especially for the small birds. a 300mm with out a tele converter is a limited lens in that you can only shoot at one length and have to zoom with you feet. I know you have the 300mm F/2.8 + EC's . and maybe have a different view. Maybe I am wrong but that's why I got the 90-250 so that I can zoom and use the EC's.

The advantage of a fixed length lens is the constant performance and not the variables at different focal lengths.

A rumored 150-350 f/4 would be better but not on your pocket. also no EC. It also is not going to be tiny.

Collin

Hey Coll,

I'm not a zoomer.  Rarely do I find myself too close to shoot with the 300mm.

My 'concern'  with any new lenses is that they will all be mFT, and from what I can see so far the fattest (objective dia) Olympus wants for the mfT lenses  is about 65mm  (the new 40-150mm /2.4). otherwise they won't fit with the compact ethic.   So a new 400mm would imo be slower than f/6.

So It'd expect it to be something like 200-400mm  f/2.8 -f/6.3. As I said I'm not a 'zoomer' and f/6.3 might be a bit slow for my taste.

If I find a nice bigma on ebay for my 5D I might get one, maybe then I'll become a zoomer, but 500 on FF is (as you know) a tad short for birding.

Peter

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