70D vs 7D vs 6D

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70D vs 7D vs 6D
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Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

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Re: 70D vs 7D vs 6D
In reply to cannoneer, 11 months ago

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

It depends on:

- $$$ budget

- ergonomics

- the type of photography you shoot

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Anderton wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

It depends on:

- $$$ budget

- ergonomics

- the type of photography you shoot

Let's say I have the $$$ and what I shoot is...well, a general purpose body.

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Forget DIGIC... irrelevant to your decision
In reply to cannoneer, 11 months ago

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

If you're worried about the speed of the Digic processor, then you're focused on entirely the wrong thing. For starters, what do you plan to use the camera for? Are you primarily and landscape and/or portrait photographer, in which case the 6D would be a terrific choice. Of course if you go that route, you'll have to chuck (well... sell anyway) all of your EF-S lenses and replace them with EF (or compatible) lenses. Is that an issue for you? Do you plan to shoot wildlife, sports, birds, or other fast moving subjects? If so, you'd probably be happier with either the 70D or 7D. If you need the fastest and most versatile AF system, then you'll want the 7D. If your needs are not quite as demanding, then the small feature differences between the 7D's and 70D's AF system may not be all that important to you.

You should educate yourself (this site is great for that) on the feature differences of the cameras you're considering and decide what's most important for your own needs. Also, go to a store and handle the cameras that meet your needs and see how you like the handling, weight, ergonomics, etc. That plus the feature and price differences should help you arrive at a reasonable decision.

If you're expecting a quick, easy answer here, you won't get one (at least nothing meaningful)... not without your providing some additional information on your needs and purchase criteria.

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Re: 70D vs 7D vs 6D
In reply to cannoneer, 11 months ago

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

If I were upgrading from a Rebel, I'd start by asking myself what I was trying to achieve with the upgrade.

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Let's say I have the $$$ and what I shoot is...well, a general purpose body.

Of the 3 you listed, the 70D is the most general purpose. That is not to say that the others can't be used for a range of applications, just that they serve certain purposes a bit better.

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In reply to cannoneer, 11 months ago

cannoneer wrote:

Anderton wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

It depends on:

- $$$ budget

- ergonomics

- the type of photography you shoot

Let's say I have the $$$ and what I shoot is...well, a general purpose body.

General purpose could mean anything. Your existing Rebel could tick all the boxes.

You have to be specific i.e.:

- what features do you want

- how much much can you carry

There are Canon 6D users who shoot with a 50mm fast prime all day and would consider their kit general purpose. Likewise, there are 650D users with STM lenses who shoot video and stills.

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Re: 70D vs 7D vs 6D
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One observation....   It seems as if a kit composed of a 6D and a 70D has almost every base covered.

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Re: 70D vs 7D vs 6D
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Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

I'm not sure the Digic5 is faster than the Dual Digic4. According to a Cnet review and others:
http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/canon-eos-70d-with/4505-6501_7-35811200.html

The 70D can buffer 16 raw/65 JPEG
The 7D can buffer 25 raw/130 JPEG

To me, that's a huge difference for shooting sports and action.

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ljudice wrote:

One observation.... It seems as if a kit composed of a 6D and a 70D has almost every base covered.

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Re: 17x faster
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Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

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Re: 70D vs 7D vs 6D
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cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

I have both a 6D and a 7D, but, if I were buying a camera today, I would go with the 70D.

The 70D falls about halfway between the 6D and 7D for low light performance. In my opinion the resolution of 40 million photosite/20 megapixel sensor of the 70D beats them both. The 70D also has the focus system of the 7D, and nearly the frame rate.

In my opinion as a general purpose camera the 70D is the best one out there, bar none.

Pair the 70D with the 18-55 STM, 55-250 STM, and 40mm STM, and you're covered.

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Anderton wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Anderton wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

It depends on:

- $$$ budget

- ergonomics

- the type of photography you shoot

Let's say I have the $$$ and what I shoot is...well, a general purpose body.

General purpose could mean anything. Your existing Rebel could tick all the boxes.

You have to be specific i.e.:

- what features do you want

- how much much can you carry

There are Canon 6D users who shoot with a 50mm fast prime all day and would consider their kit general purpose. Likewise, there are 650D users with STM lenses who shoot video and stills.

Or 7D users with a 15-85.

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Re: 17x faster
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adam1612 wrote:

Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

I don't understand. If the Digic 5 is 17x faster than the Digic 4, how does the 70D buffer less than 60D? Direct quote from the-digital-picture.com:

  • 7 fps for 40/15 images (JPEG/RAW) vs. 5.3 fps vs. 58/16 images
  • DIGIC 5+ vs. DIGIC 4 (17x faster)
  • Canon EOS 7D 8.0 fps 110/130 Images (JPEG/RAW)

Is't the Dual Digic4 In the old, outdated Canon 7D faster than both the 70D & 60D?

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realtor wrote:

adam1612 wrote:

Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

I don't understand. If the Digic 5 is 17x faster than the Digic 4, how does the 70D buffer less than 60D? Direct quote from the-digital-picture.com:

  • 7 fps for 40/15 images (JPEG/RAW) vs. 5.3 fps vs. 58/16 images
  • DIGIC 5+ vs. DIGIC 4 (17x faster)
  • Canon EOS 7D 8.0 fps 110/130 Images (JPEG/RAW)

Is't the Dual Digic4 In the old, outdated Canon 7D faster than both the 70D & 60D?

The output in fps is faster for 7D. However, the internal processing for the 70D "dual pixel" AF is nearly two times faster than 7D.

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Re: 17x faster
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realtor wrote:

adam1612 wrote:

Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

I don't understand. If the Digic 5 is 17x faster than the Digic 4, how does the 70D buffer less than 60D? Direct quote from the-digital-picture.com:

  • 7 fps for 40/15 images (JPEG/RAW) vs. 5.3 fps vs. 58/16 images
  • DIGIC 5+ vs. DIGIC 4 (17x faster)
  • Canon EOS 7D 8.0 fps 110/130 Images (JPEG/RAW)

Is't the Dual Digic4 In the old, outdated Canon 7D faster than both the 70D & 60D?

Buffer size is based on memory size, not processor speed.

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realtor wrote:

adam1612 wrote:

Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

I don't understand. If the Digic 5 is 17x faster than the Digic 4, how does the 70D buffer less than 60D? Direct quote from the-digital-picture.com:

  • 7 fps for 40/15 images (JPEG/RAW) vs. 5.3 fps vs. 58/16 images
  • DIGIC 5+ vs. DIGIC 4 (17x faster)
  • Canon EOS 7D 8.0 fps 110/130 Images (JPEG/RAW)

Is't the Dual Digic4 In the old, outdated Canon 7D faster than both the 70D & 60D?

Sorry, I meant Canon 7D 8.0 fps 110/25 Images (JPG/RAW)

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In reply to realtor, 11 months ago

realtor wrote:

realtor wrote:

adam1612 wrote:

Digic 5+ is 17x faster than Digic 4 according to the-digital-picture.com

I don't understand. If the Digic 5 is 17x faster than the Digic 4, how does the 70D buffer less than 60D? Direct quote from the-digital-picture.com:

  • 7 fps for 40/15 images (JPEG/RAW) vs. 5.3 fps vs. 58/16 images
  • DIGIC 5+ vs. DIGIC 4 (17x faster)
  • Canon EOS 7D 8.0 fps 110/130 Images (JPEG/RAW)

Is't the Dual Digic4 In the old, outdated Canon 7D faster than both the 70D & 60D?

Sorry, I meant Canon 7D 8.0 fps 110/25 Images (JPG/RAW)

You have to take a look at how much extra work the 70D has to do and where it is optimised i.e. larger touchscreen, different autofocus, more megapixels, etc, Those are also theoretical speeds, not actual and is like comparing apples to oranges.

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TTMartin wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

I have both a 6D and a 7D, but, if I were buying a camera today, I would go with the 70D.

The 70D falls about halfway between the 6D and 7D for low light performance. In my opinion the resolution of 40 million photosite/20 megapixel sensor of the 70D beats them both. The 70D also has the focus system of the 7D, and nearly the frame rate.

In my opinion as a general purpose camera the 70D is the best one out there, bar none.

Pair the 70D with the 18-55 STM, 55-250 STM, and 40mm STM, and you're covered.

Are you saying in terms of low light performance 7D is better than 70D is better than 6D?

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cannoneer wrote:

TTMartin wrote:

cannoneer wrote:

Is the Digic5 much faster than Dual Digic4?

If you were upgrading from a Rebel, which way would you go?

I have both a 6D and a 7D, but, if I were buying a camera today, I would go with the 70D.

The 70D falls about halfway between the 6D and 7D for low light performance. In my opinion the resolution of 40 million photosite/20 megapixel sensor of the 70D beats them both. The 70D also has the focus system of the 7D, and nearly the frame rate.

In my opinion as a general purpose camera the 70D is the best one out there, bar none.

Pair the 70D with the 18-55 STM, 55-250 STM, and 40mm STM, and you're covered.

Are you saying in terms of low light performance 7D is better than 70D is better than 6D?

6D > 70D > 7D in low light.  That's my interpretation.

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