NEX-5R vs NEX-5T... scratching my head

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kage
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NEX-5R vs NEX-5T... scratching my head
Sep 6, 2013

Perhaps this has been discussed before...

But is the difference between the two really just the NFC?

I'm trying to figure out which one to buy right now, and am wondering if I am missing some detail.  Maybe there is a performance difference?  Something?

Confused.

-k-

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

I want to know what happened to the 5S ! 

Basically there are minimal differences, a bit of minor tweaking to the Bionz processing but nothing major, its just a face-lift.

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

kage wrote:

Perhaps this has been discussed before...

But is the difference between the two really just the NFC?

I'm trying to figure out which one to buy right now, and am wondering if I am missing some detail. Maybe there is a performance difference? Something?

Confused.

-k-

Nothing serious. It will only result in even more extreme devaluation of the previous models.

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The real difference is PRICE
In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

You can get a 5R and lens for well under $450 these days.

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Re: NEX-5R vs NEX-5T... scratching my head
In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

Even Sony don't know what the difference is.

They have to go to Sony Alpha Rumours to find out about these things.

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

kage wrote:

Confused.

The NEX - initially a big event at the still photography world - quickly lost sense of direction.

Chaotic line-up of the camera models is accompanying by even more irrational lens offer.

Maybe suspension of the "7" release is a sign of the changes in Sony's sick marketing policies.

A few day ago I bought the 5R with two kit lenses and two no-nonsense "free gifts" for the total of $749 and I am happy with that.

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Sonyshine wrote:

I want to know what happened to the 5S !

Basically there are minimal differences, a bit of minor tweaking to the Bionz processing but nothing major, its just a face-lift.

Does anyone know what these tweaks might be?

Does it make the 5T any faster?  Or does it have to do with JPEG performance or character?

I'd like to make as informed a choice as possible.  The 5T is really quite perplexing to me.

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

Personally, I'd grab a 5R since they are a great deal now. The 5T adds very little. Sony cameras are already on a yearly refresh cycle (more or less) so I wonder if this is an attempt by Sony to accelerate this further, taking a page from Apple's playbook.

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Re: NEX-5R vs NEX-5T... scratching my head
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The 5R usually comes with the 18-55 lens.  The 5T comes with the 16-50 lens.

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gwlaw99 wrote:

The 5R usually comes with the 18-55 lens. The 5T comes with the 16-50 lens.

I agree: motorized zoom for an interchangeable lens camera is a nonsense

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How about the screen?
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Is it still the same style of touch screen (non-capacitive)?

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Diopter wrote:

kage wrote:

Confused.

The NEX - initially a big event at the still photography world - quickly lost sense of direction.

Chaotic line-up of the camera models is accompanying by even more irrational lens offer.

Maybe suspension of the "7" release is a sign of the changes in Sony's sick marketing policies.

A few day ago I bought the 5R with two kit lenses and two no-nonsense "free gifts" for the total of $749 and I am happy with that.

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I wonder why you use Sony cameras since you seem to moan all the time. Have you ever considered jumping the ship (and subsequently forum)? Or is complaining something you take pleasure from?

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In reply to paulcraig, Sep 6, 2013

Actually, often these things are the result improved manufacturing processes - integration of two separate chips, reduced size of internal components etc.  It gives Sony the opportunity to launch a new model at a similar price point with little R&D but better margins, with the NFC added to leverage their work in the smartphone/tablet arena.

It's a more compelling product for Sony than the customers.

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

look its really simple if you get a decent discount on a 5R get it if not get the 5T .. simple as that

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alterstill wrote:

I wonder why you use Sony cameras since you seem to moan all the time.

The way, you think would never allow to understand that.

Please do not hesitate and submit any substantial questions.

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Diopter wrote:

gwlaw99 wrote:

The 5R usually comes with the 18-55 lens. The 5T comes with the 16-50 lens.

I agree: motorized zoom for an interchangeable lens camera is a nonsense

I would disagree, the ONLY advantage the NEx has over the small light entry level dslr is compactness, bolt on a big standard kit lens to anyone rational it looses this advantage .. after all the NEX (5/6) is far more expensive, AF is crap in comparison, lens choice is crap in comparison, ergonomics are crap in comparison, battery life is crap in comparison .. etc etc

apart from some people not liking the PZ lever the usual Sony lens QC problem hammered the new folding lens design - a lot of people say its soft - in 99% of cases its crap Sony QC on the AF
- buy the focus bracketing app and test it and if the AF is out send it back to Sony

I got a crap focusing AF PZ kit and with the Focus bracketing app proved easily to Sony the AF was crap and got the lens block replaced with a V2 one which AF properly and is very sharp and at least as good as the std kit lens

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In reply to kage, Sep 6, 2013

kage wrote:

Perhaps this has been discussed before...

But is the difference between the two really just the NFC?

I'm trying to figure out which one to buy right now, and am wondering if I am missing some detail. Maybe there is a performance difference? Something?

Confused.

-k-

It also supports the Triluminous display which is a feature of the 2013 range of Sony LCD televisions

Other than that we don't know - SAR suggested that there had been changes to the user interface but their predictions have been variable recently so that may or may not be the case

The release is very strange as it offers no obvious advantages to new users (unless there are interface changes, which could have been implemented via a firmware change to the 5r anyway) and alienates existing 5R users who just see the value of their camera drop and who will almost certainly not see any firmware improvements which might(?) appear in the new model migrated to the 5R (ie. the 5T effectively becomes a $700 firmware upgrade over the 5R)

I suspect the release is mainly driven by internal Sony politics...  nfc is a feature of the latest Sony phones and triluminous is a feature of the latest Sony TV's.  These features will be of no interest or use to most customers but doubtless the product manager won 'brownie points' (or at least hoped to) for 'leveraging cross product synergy' or whatever terms the senior managment use to define what needs to appear to be done if one wants a good appraisal

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In reply to Diopter, Sep 6, 2013

Diopter wrote:

alterstill wrote:

I wonder why you use Sony cameras since you seem to moan all the time.

The way, you think would never allow to understand that.

Please do not hesitate and submit any substantial questions.

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You are right - I do think. I have also met quite a few smart and friendly folks on forums like this. And since you are neither I have no further questions.

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parallaxproblem wrote:

cross product synergy' or whatever terms the senior managment use to define what needs to appear to be done if one wants a good appraisal

LOL

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Diopter wrote:

gwlaw99 wrote:

The 5R usually comes with the 18-55 lens. The 5T comes with the 16-50 lens.

I agree: motorized zoom for an interchangeable lens camera is a nonsense

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That's supposed to make it more appealing to video makers.

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