Epson 4900 "Factory Refurbished" printer...

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inhaliburton
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Epson 4900 "Factory Refurbished" printer...
Aug 28, 2013

Has anyone had any experience with these "factory refurbished" printers?

Any ideas under what circumstance Epson gets these printers to "refurb?" I'm wondering if they are "well used."

I have one on order from:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Refurbished-Epson-Stylus-Pro-4900-Digital-Photo-Inkjet-Printer-/390646664198?pt=COMP_Printers&hash=item5af45b0c06

They still have about 6 left in stock.

Thanks for any input.

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In reply to inhaliburton, Aug 28, 2013

inhaliburton wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with these "factory refurbished" printers?

Any ideas under what circumstance Epson gets these printers to "refurb?" I'm wondering if they are "well used."

I have one on order from:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Refurbished-Epson-Stylus-Pro-4900-Digital-Photo-Inkjet-Printer-/390646664198?pt=COMP_Printers&hash=item5af45b0c06

They still have about 6 left in stock.

Thanks for any input

I would be very wary about any 4900 bargain refurbished printer. Although some users seem to have had good experiences, the forums are replete with terrible experiences of intractable clogging of new printers and multiple returns - one individual with four returned before giving up. I assume the replacements are previously returned machines, and I seriously doubt they have had the prindheads replaced, as this is a very pricey  parts and labor job.

There seems to be a systemic problem with the x900 printers in general with printhead problems - very unlike the 3800 series with many more sold, and rare problems.

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In reply to Pete Berry, Aug 28, 2013

Thanks for that. I haven't pulled the trigger yet. The vendor tells me the 4900 likes to be "used" on a very regular basis.
I have a Canon iPF-5100 with a clogged head that needs replacing and the tanks are very low on ink. It has been lightly used. The original starter carts, and a second set dated May of 2010 It was purchased in the fall of 2008. It's free to anyone who wants to pick it up.

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inhaliburton wrote:

Thanks for that. I haven't pulled the trigger yet. The vendor tells me the 4900 likes to be "used" on a very regular basis.
I have a Canon iPF-5100 with a clogged head that needs replacing and the tanks are very low on ink. It has been lightly used. The original starter carts, and a second set dated May of 2010 It was purchased in the fall of 2008. It's free to anyone who wants to pick it up.

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Likewise a 5100,  going strong after two and a half years, never a nozzel check or forced cleanings - simply leave it on to do its self-maintenence. And previously an iPF 5000 with five years and several thousand sq ft printed before head failures.

I suspect you'll be better off in the long run replacing the heads yourself for $900, getting   an Epson 3850, or a new iPF5100 than a refurb'd 4900. Are you aware of the hassle and considerable ink expense of switching matte and photo blacks in the 4900?

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In reply to inhaliburton, Aug 28, 2013

inhaliburton wrote:

Thanks for that. I haven't pulled the trigger yet. The vendor tells me the 4900 likes to be "used" on a very regular basis.
I have a Canon iPF-5100 with a clogged head that needs replacing and the tanks are very low on ink. It has been lightly used. The original starter carts, and a second set dated May of 2010 It was purchased in the fall of 2008. It's free to anyone who wants to pick it up.

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What they really mean is DAILY use as in printing several large prints a day! The reason there are refurbished, is simple. These printers are malfunctioning almost universally. The lines, dampers and heads will clog if you do not print DAILY!

These printers have had the heads replaced and hopefully ( thought hey have not yet admitted that there is even a problem ) repaired any problems and made it a more reliable printer.  They are likely taking a huge loss as the repairs cost as much as a new one.

If you are using one of a printing shop environment that has the work volume to keep this beast clog free it is a great printer. The output is magnificent! But you simply can not just print a few prints once a week. Nope!

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In reply to inhaliburton, Aug 28, 2013

others say my experience with the 4900 is quite different. I have had it for 20 months and love it.

I have not had problems with clogging. I do make sure that I print once ever 4 or 5 days ...often just a card or a print pattern test.

As far as the switching from photo blk to matte blk I consider there is none. Push a button and it is done. I suppose if one was switching often back and forth then there may be an ink loss issue but I just do not do that. I set up my matte printing sessions and print them and then the photo blk session, etc.

Not saying buy the referb but...

So far (knock on wood) I love this printer and the output.

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In reply to Kim R, Aug 28, 2013

Kim R wrote:

others say my experience with the 4900 is quite different. I have had it for 20 months and love it.

I have not had problems with clogging. I do make sure that I print once ever 4 or 5 days ...often just a card or a print pattern test.

As far as the switching from photo blk to matte blk I consider there is none. Push a button and it is done. I suppose if one was switching often back and forth then there may be an ink loss issue but I just do not do that. I set up my matte printing sessions and print them and then the photo blk session, etc.

Not saying buy the referb but...

So far (knock on wood) I love this printer and the output.

You are indeed one of the few lucky ones. As I said, this printer family ( X900 ) needs to be used on a regular basis and apparently you have found the correct amount of work to keep it going. If you let it sit for weeks on like a lot of people tend to do because of trips and such. You will end up with a printer that will not be able to be revived by performing simple cleaning cycles.

The only remedy will be a total refurbishing of the printer. Thus the reason for these units showing up on EBAY.

The HDR ink set of the X900 family is about the only way to almost print the complete Adobe RGB color space. Not 100% still, but it's pretty much the best there is.

If only these printers were as reliable as the PRO 3800 and 3880 line!

Joe

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My main printers ( there are more though )
2200/R800/R1900/R2000/R2400/R2880/PRO3800/R340/R380/1400/Artisan 725/Canon Pro9000MKII/Canon PRO9500 MKII
My videos!
New way to refill EPSON OEM carts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6fi9VCOo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gccxLvfknuE&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJepnArTdo&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeDpEIUkkQ&feature=youtu.be
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQju7xOKy4&feature=youtu.be
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In reply to jtoolman, Aug 29, 2013

I would only buy a Refurb unit directly from Epson.  They will swap back and forth as needed within the one-year warranty.

As these printers get so expensive, there should be TSBs (Technical Service Bulletins) issued as with automobiles.  Doesn't trigger a recall, but if you have an issue and a TSB applies, the repair is free.

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In reply to inhaliburton, Sep 1, 2013

The Refurbished Units are not eligible for Extended Warranties.

I wish I had purchased an Extended Warranty...would have saved me a lot of trouble.

Clogs are a real issue and need to be factored into the cost.

In fact, running cleanings using the printers menu actually causes more clogs in my experience.

I do use a purge print every day on plain paper which appears to help. It would be nice if I had a program that would print on a "timer." This way each day I could make a "purge" print automatically. It would save a lot of ink, paper, and money in the long run.

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might be interested in this s/w...............

http://www.harveyheadcleaner.com/howWorks2.html

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Howard Moftich wrote:

might be interested in this s/w...............

http://www.harveyheadcleaner.com/howWorks2.html

I love this forum!

The only problem is no 4900...

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