More specs on ILC-3000

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Keit ll
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Re: More specs on ILC-3000
In reply to spacemn, Aug 26, 2013

How sad , that rules me out then. I did find it difficult to believe but I wanted to believe that Sony would do the right thing , oh well.

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Bummer!-rules me out too...
In reply to spacemn, Aug 26, 2013

Will keep Rebel after all.

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Re: No IBIS in ILC-3000
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Keit ll wrote:

The ILC-3000 is now said to have IBIS & a metal lens mount , sounds too good to be true for £300 ? If AF only matches current cameras this could be an absolute winner ! A lot of current users will seriously consider this camera as a back-up.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

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SAR just retracted the rumor.

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Re: No IBIS in ILC-3000
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blue_skies wrote:

Keit ll wrote:

The ILC-3000 is now said to have IBIS & a metal lens mount , sounds too good to be true for £300 ? If AF only matches current cameras this could be an absolute winner ! A lot of current users will seriously consider this camera as a back-up.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

SAR just retracted the rumor.

As I already suspeted! 

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Re: ILC-3000 cheaper to make
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Think of it as an a37 without the pellicle or the separate PDAF module.

It is cheaper to build than competing DSLRs from Canon/Nikon/Pentax.

IBIS allows Sony to make cheap non-OS E-mount lenses for the ILC line. They will be affordable alternatives for NEX users as well. (Look at the Olympus 40-150 m43 lens. Cheap and light and optically quite decent)

My guess is that Sony has decided to attack the DSLR market from the bottom. The ILC-3000 is cheaper to make, so Sony can hold margin at low prices. To attack DSLRs it has to look like a DSLR, and it does! Expect to see this one at Costco.

Whether on-sensor PDAF is sorted out on the ILC-3000 is not critical. It is cheap and NEX level AF will be good enough. Later mid and up-market DSLRish E-mount cameras will need DSLR-level AF. Canon has shown it can be done with the 70D.

You have advanced some very good points here. And I actually own the Ollie 40-150R lens you just mentioned and yes it's cheap/small/light plastic lens-mount and very accurate. Being m43, it's 35mm equivalence is 80-300mm which would be equivalent to a NEX e-mount lens of 54-200mm!

The NEX E-55-210 lens is double the size and weight, and triple the cost! Point made.

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Re: More specs on ILC-3000
In reply to spacemn, Aug 26, 2013

spacemn wrote:

captura wrote:

spacemn wrote:

captura wrote:

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4thnebula wrote:

Now that we have been straightened out that 300 pounds is about $450 that allows for the real possibility of Sony covering the cost of IBIS and tilting LCD screen. That would put the ILC-3000 ahead of the Canon SL1 rather than just equally competing with it.

No IBIS, no articulating screen, it's just a big 3n. With an EVF.

Well the rumor say it has IBIS and no-one know about it having an articulating screen or not.

The 3N is an expensive contructive due to the extreme compactness, like the other NEX cameras. The A3000 can share quite a few components with the A58.

SAR will drive us crazy with their rumors. How can the a-3000, a $400 camera, include a flip-screen and IBIS for that price? It has the old 230 K screen from the a37. The 3N is a cheap camera and built cheaply. It is now discontinued.

The a-5000 is more likely to get an articulating screen and IBIS.

Is the 3N discontinued?? It was released this year?!

What I mean is not that 3N is made of expensive materials and high grade, but for what it can and in that tiny form factor, is more expensive components required than putting the samme functionality in a larger body such as the ILC3000.

Who knows about the IBIS, we will find out tomorrow, but what will you do if it indeed has articulating screen and IBIS?

Announcement of the ILCE3000 in about 12 hours. It will have the simple form of IBIS.

No articulating screen and said to have only the 230K screen from the a37, a real let-down. But basically a 3n sheep in wolf's clothing? 20 mp sensor from a58. Maybe I'll get a body only.

Question I have..how good will the video be on this? A hypothetical ILCE7000 might be developed by Sony to be a great video platform, exceeding the Panasonic's similar-looking GH3.

Shoot! You were right, no IBIS after all:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/rumor-correction-ilc-3000-has-no-in-body-stabilization/#comments

As I said, SAR will drive us all crazy with their mistakes! I think they looked at the specifications for the ILCa5000 or the ILCa7000 (which they say they already have ) and got the stuff about stabilization from there. I am guessing it was the ILCa7000 because it's Olly's 5-axis IBIS which is a very expensive proposition.

More OPINIONS and QUESTIONS on 7x:

- If the ILCa7000 has 5-axis IBIS, then the NEX-7x should have it too, right?

- I think maybe $1400 for the NEX-7x? (they already said it will have weatherproofing..not cheap. And if the NEX-7x has weatherproofing, the at least 2 of the new lenses will also have weatherproofing.

???

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Re: More specs on ILC-3000
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Keit ll wrote:

How sad , that rules me out then. I did find it difficult to believe but I wanted to believe that Sony would do the right thing , oh well.

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the 5000 or 7000.

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In reply to captura, Aug 26, 2013

Captura, I don't think the ILC-5000 and 7000 even has been rumored yet, is it a guess or have you read about it somewhere?

They will most probably come, but there has been nothing on them yet as far as I know.

Now I can't wait for the FF NEX or 7 successor!!

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In reply to spacemn, Aug 26, 2013

I was seriously, seriously considering snagging this camera with IBIS and a metabones speedbooster adapter (to C/Y mount), but now I'm less enthusiastic about it now that the IBIS is a no-go.  This could have been the perfect platform, with a decent EVF, for a budget FF-esque MF rig on a nice budget.

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spacemn wrote:

Captura, I don't think the ILC-5000 and 7000 even has been rumored yet, is it a guess or have you read about it somewhere?

They will most probably come, but there has been nothing on them yet as far as I know.

Now I can't wait for the FF NEX or 7 successor!!

Yes I read it on a website where they werre discussing the nomenclature for all of the new Sony MILC cameras.

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In reply to Lucas_, Aug 27, 2013

I was interested in one.  I still can't figure out if there will be a new cheap alpha with it soon.  It was a feature I wanted.

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