A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea. Locked

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MrFlash
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A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
Jul 23, 2013

I posted a few days ago that I had ordered an OM-D (E-M5). I was tempted to do so primarily by the availability of fast medium telephoto primes. The reviews and specs of the OM-D are truly impressive. The camera is small, fast and full featured. The system has many, well regarded and reasonably priced lenses from which to choose.

While the battery was charging I admired the small size and the quality construction of the OM-D. The little jewel makes my X-Pro1 look absolutely huge. I really wanted to like this camera.

After the battery charged I took to the back yard with the OM-D with the 45mm 1.8 and the XE-1 with the 60mm. I took many shots. I tried to keep the settings, compositions and conditions as close to the same as possible. I shot in bright light, mixed light, deep shadow and dim indoor lighting. RAW and Jpeg. I cropped the Fuji files to 4/3 to keep the same image aspect ratio.

I then spent some time comparing the images on my 27” iMac monitor. No pixel peeping, just the full image displayed full screen.

When I compared the images, the OM-D files were just, for lack of a better word, inferior. The difference was completely obvious. The difference was so apparent that I was a little surprised, considering the reviews and raves on the net.

The experience reminded me of when I would compare the files from my 5DII to the output from my 7D. The 7D files were good, but the 5DII files were obviously better, in every way. Same thing holds true here. The detail, color, gradation and dynamic range are all obviously better on the Fuji files.

I got the camera about 5 hours ago and it is all boxed up and is ready to go back.

So thanks Oly. I enjoyed the test drive. But you’ve still got a ways to go.

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kewlguy
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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Now, I hope you wear your flame retardant suit...:)

I was a 4/3 and m4/3 user - and I do understand what you're saying. I still use Canon and Leica but due to legacy lenses fever I added Fuji X-E1 (with 18-55 kit) last month and I feel the Fuji files are simply excellent. It's with me everyday

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Ray Sachs
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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

MrFlash wrote:

When I compared the images, the OM-D files were just, for lack of a better word, inferior. The difference was completely obvious. The difference was so apparent that I was a little surprised, considering the reviews and raves on the net.

I gotta better word - it's actually a few: "not to your taste".

I've shot with a LOT of gear over the past few years, including extensive time with both Fuji and m43 (OMD and others). And I know when you're comfortable with / used to one system and the files it produces, unless you move to something that's pretty overwhelmingly better in some way (like the RX1 in low light / shallow DOF, the Sigma DPxM for clarity and detail in good light, etc), it takes a while to grow to like the second system.

I will say you didn't give the OMD a chance, but that's your prerogative. I can certainly understand preferring the look of the Fuji files to those from the OMD. I can also understand the opposite, but it's largely a matter of taste, not inferior or superior or better or worse. I'd also say the Fuji 60 is a better lens than the $350 Olympus 45 (although that's a great bargain lens) unless having fast enough AF to actually GET the shot matters - the Fuji really falls down on that one with that lens. But if you'd tried the Olympus 75mm against some hypothetical Fuji I think you'd have had a different reaction. At least if you'd given it a chance.

Your time, your money, your choice. No problem doing what you did or preferring what you prefer. But "inferior" is a characterization I can't buy, having used both extensively. But, whatever, enjoy your gear - it's great stuff and it sounds like its clearly a better fit for you, particularly if it was just gonna be the 45 vs the 60.

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Davidgilmour
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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

MrFlash wrote:

I posted a few days ago that I had ordered an OM-D (E-M5). I was tempted to do so primarily by the availability of fast medium telephoto primes. The reviews and specs of the OM-D are truly impressive. The camera is small, fast and full featured. The system has many, well regarded and reasonably priced lenses from which to choose.

While the battery was charging I admired the small size and the quality construction of the OM-D. The little jewel makes my X-Pro1 look absolutely huge. I really wanted to like this camera.

After the battery charged I took to the back yard with the OM-D with the 45mm 1.8 and the XE-1 with the 60mm. I took many shots. I tried to keep the settings, compositions and conditions as close to the same as possible. I shot in bright light, mixed light, deep shadow and dim indoor lighting. RAW and Jpeg. I cropped the Fuji files to 4/3 to keep the same image aspect ratio.

I then spent some time comparing the images on my 27” iMac monitor. No pixel peeping, just the full image displayed full screen.

When I compared the images, the OM-D files were just, for lack of a better word, inferior. The difference was completely obvious. The difference was so apparent that I was a little surprised, considering the reviews and raves on the net.

The experience reminded me of when I would compare the files from my 5DII to the output from my 7D. The 7D files were good, but the 5DII files were obviously better, in every way. Same thing holds true here. The detail, color, gradation and dynamic range are all obviously better on the Fuji files.

I got the camera about 5 hours ago and it is all boxed up and is ready to go back.

So thanks Oly. I enjoyed the test drive. But you’ve still got a ways to go.

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Please post this in the Oly forum, so we can have a good laugh.

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to Ray Sachs, Jul 23, 2013

I second this. I used an E-M5 for a year before switching to the - sometimes frustratingly unreliable - X-E1. I did so for the ergonomics and for the somehow more full frame like look of the images. Technically there is nothing wrong with the images from the E-M5. I was surprised about how little difference in iso, resolution and dynamic range there is between those two after all this hype about the Fuji sensor. Right, the colors are pretty different. Depends on your taste. One final note would be: there is no way somebody could get the best out of any camera within 5 hours.

On the sunny side you will be even more satisfied with your Fuji and that is a good thing. Think of it when you struggle to get focus with the 60 next time or when you miss stabilized primes or reliable and speedy autofocus or ...

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Not surprise!

Never own the OM-D ... but I have GH2 before, and I find the GH2 images only comparable to my Nikon V1 today.  The mFT has no comparison to an 2012+ APS-C sensor.

P.S. I use 27" and 30" monitors, and I could see the detail easily.

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photo perzon
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X-M1 smaller than OMD and X-E1. Same as E-PL5. Now APS=m4/3 size.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

MrFlash wrote:

While the battery was charging I admired the small size and the quality construction of the OM-D. The little jewel makes my X-Pro1 look absolutely huge. I really wanted to like this camera.

When I compared the images, the OM-D files were just, for lack of a better word, inferior. The difference was completely obvious. The difference was so apparent that I was a little surprised, considering the reviews and raves on the net.

The X-M1 makes the OMD and the X-E1 look huge.  The X-M1 is the same size as the Oly E-PL5, and with the 27mm pancake it is like the PL5 with the 20mm Pana lens.  Maybe even the 14mm lens.

Yes m4/3 IQ is simply inferior.  Theoretically should not be, practically the difference is clear.

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Yup.

Saw your initial post but didn't think you'd listen...

I just bought an X-E1 with speedbooster and loving it.

REShultz
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Not the Right Way to Test a Camera
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Five hours, of which a few were presumably spent reviewing images?

Shooting in your back yard?

Eeeeek!

It takes a long time to learn to bring the best out of a camera.

John Pennington
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Re: Not the Right Way to Test a Camera
In reply to REShultz, Jul 23, 2013

REShultz wrote:

Five hours, of which a few were presumably spent reviewing images?

Shooting in your back yard?

Eeeeek!

It takes a long time to learn to bring the best out of a camera.

It does, but it takes considerably less time to assess general image quality.

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Craig from Nevada
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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Sound like you made the right choice for you.

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Re: Exactly what are you comparing?
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

Raw or JPEG?  If raw, what converter are you comparing in?  If JPEG, which of the Olympus colour modes were you shooting in, for the comparison?

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

MrFlash wrote:

I posted a few days ago that I had ordered an OM-D (E-M5). ...

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X-Pro1 ...

Err ... you do know that neither is an Olympus DSLR, right?

Nevertheless I had a similar experience but in a shop and money didn't change hands.

I preferred the Jpegs produced from a couple of Olympii rather than the Fuji X100S, XE-1 or X-Pro1 except in one instance where the X-Pro & 35mm prime did a nice job.

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

SIGH.

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

MrFlash wrote:

I posted a few days ago that I had ordered an OM-D (E-M5). I was tempted to do so primarily by the availability of fast medium telephoto primes. The reviews and specs of the OM-D are truly impressive. The camera is small, fast and full featured. The system has many, well regarded and reasonably priced lenses from which to choose.

While the battery was charging I admired the small size and the quality construction of the OM-D. The little jewel makes my X-Pro1 look absolutely huge. I really wanted to like this camera.

After the battery charged I took to the back yard with the OM-D with the 45mm 1.8 and the XE-1 with the 60mm. I took many shots. I tried to keep the settings, compositions and conditions as close to the same as possible. I shot in bright light, mixed light, deep shadow and dim indoor lighting. RAW and Jpeg. I cropped the Fuji files to 4/3 to keep the same image aspect ratio.

I then spent some time comparing the images on my 27” iMac monitor. No pixel peeping, just the full image displayed full screen.

When I compared the images, the OM-D files were just, for lack of a better word, inferior. The difference was completely obvious. The difference was so apparent that I was a little surprised, considering the reviews and raves on the net.

The experience reminded me of when I would compare the files from my 5DII to the output from my 7D. The 7D files were good, but the 5DII files were obviously better, in every way. Same thing holds true here. The detail, color, gradation and dynamic range are all obviously better on the Fuji files.

I got the camera about 5 hours ago and it is all boxed up and is ready to go back.

So thanks Oly. I enjoyed the test drive. But you’ve still got a ways to go.

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MrFlash

Trolling like this is a bad idea. You like your gear of the original choice - fine, enjoy it, have fun with it and be happy. Why bother to post a negative (and quite an un-educated) message on the brand-specific forum? This is not even the right forum to begin with. There is a mFT forum for the OM-D users. I find this post to be stuipid and useless. MrFlash belongs to the Off Topic forum, there are plenty of trolls there to share his company. We have enough critics of the Oly system here without an outsider with a bad attitude and lack of actual experience with equipment. God knows, I've seen plenty of terrible shots with Fuji cameras and plenty of excelent ones from OM-D and versa-versa. It isn't the camera, most of the time, it is who is behind one.

Good luck!

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Re: A dedicated Fuji fanboy ordered the OM-D. Bad idea.
In reply to vadimraskin, Jul 23, 2013

Moderator please move this to the m4/3 forum where it belongs.  If the OP wants to start a flame war, he can do so in the correct forum, and not here.

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This thread is off topic in the Oly SLR forum. Bad idea.
In reply to MrFlash, Jul 23, 2013

and is, therefore, LOCKED.

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