'France is plagued by bankruptcy and mass immigration’ - Marine Le Pen

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Encourage Christian marriage, produce babies and that populous would prevent the foriegn invasion from occuring since there would be no room for the new folk.   See my earlier post; a very enlightend video to say the least.    Personally, Europe's embrace of hedonism, non-traditional marriage, and the detriment of the church there led to your current situation.   You turned your back on God and this is your reward for doing so.    

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Encourage Christian marriage, produce babies and that populous would prevent the foriegn invasion from occuring since there would be no room for the new folk. See my earlier post; a very enlightend video to say the least. Personally, Europe's embrace of hedonism, non-traditional marriage, and the detriment of the church there led to your current situation. You turned your back on God and this is your reward for doing so.

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At least we are keeping it up (population too).   lolol

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Encourage Christian marriage, produce babies and that populous would prevent the foriegn invasion from occuring since there would be no room for the new folk. See my earlier post; a very enlightend video to say the least. Personally, Europe's embrace of hedonism, non-traditional marriage, and the detriment of the church there led to your current situation. You turned your back on God and this is your reward for doing so.

France has a much higher rate of religious observance and church attendance that the UK.

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Re: 'France is plagued by bankruptcy and mass immigration’ - Marine Le Pen
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There seems to be an agreement that France needs to be put back on its feet and, if anyone wants to propose a plan in 5 simple steps to achieve that, please, be my guest, detail the plan and if I like it, I'll organise a revolution to carry out that plan.
Realistic plans only please, I'm already working on a revolution in the US, I'm to busy for nonsense.

Hmm, I think I am not going to help you with your French revolution; don't want to feel guilty for the rest of my life if it turns out wrong and your new rulers reactivate the good old guillotine and do a first test run on your head! 

But in the case of the US, my advice would be forget about how it was done in Egypt now or in Eastern Germany in 89; you'll never make hundreds of thousands come out of their holes to protest in the streets for several days and nights in the land of the obese and lethargic!

The only way it might work would be some kind of poll that can be done while sitting at home in front of the TV, so no need to interrupt eating popcorn or smoking some grass, something electronic, maybe via  a mobile phone, kind of like texting either "O-B-A-M-A" or "N-O-B-A-M-A", that should even work while eating, stoned or drunk!

But if you prefer some kind of outdoor-revolution, I could only think of something like a drive-in event; people could bring all their nice SUVs to show off a little, these SUVs also loaded with all their fancy Kalashnikows, Colts and Glocks, so they all feel better without being scared and could even "stand their ground" against each other, if necessary.

If Obama is smart, he could suggest the nations biggest FEMA camps as meeting points for these drive-in protests. In case he doesn't feel like resigning, no matter what decision the protesters will come up with, he could simply order to just close the gates of the camps and then send in some drones, maybe colorfully exploding as the 10 p.m. revolutionary fireworks,  problem solved, opposition and revolution finished.

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I can see the FBI rounding up the obese Americans with some music, get them into the corral and spray them with a nice dose of agent orange, to this tune of course :

Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'

Keep movin', movin', movin',
Though they're disapprovin',
Keep them doggies movin' Rawhide!
Don't try to understand 'em,
Just rope and throw and grab 'em,
Soon we'll be living high and wide.
Boy my heart's calculatin'
My true love will be waitin', be waiting at the end of my ride.

Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Move 'em on, head 'em out Rawhide!
Set 'em out, ride 'em in
Ride 'em in, let 'em out,
Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Rawhide.

Full Lyrics

Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rawhide!

Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Though the streams are swollen
Keep them dogies rollin'
Rawhide!
Rain and wind and weather
Hell-bent for leather
Wishin' my gal was by my side.
All the things I'm missin',
Good vittles, love, and kissin',
Are waiting at the end of my ride

CHORUS
Move 'em on, head 'em up
Head 'em up, move 'em on
Move 'em on, head 'em up
Rawhide
Count 'em out, ride 'em in,
Ride 'em in, count 'em out,
Count 'em out, ride 'em in
Rawhide!

Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep them dogies movin'
Rawhide!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope, throw, and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide.
My hearts calculatin'
My true love will be waitin',
Be waitin' at the end of my ride.

Rawhide!

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lylejk wrote:

All of Europe is in trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/6-3X5hIFXYU

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LeRentier wrote:

I can see the FBI rounding up the obese Americans with some music, get them into the corral and spray them with a nice dose of agent orange, to this tune of course :

Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'

LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRae5mRoRE

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snip...

Typically the life expectancy is not doctored, first as it is hard to do, and second because it has no benefit, so that point is weak.

See my reference to the contrary.

The point on Cuba's GDP dropping hard has to do both with their social organization and with US sanctions -

That's not your original contention.

Well - it certainly has to do more with their social organization, but the sanctions helped to make it even worse than it otherwise would be.

While you personally did well in US system, clearly many of your countryman are unable to do the same. Is it just them to blame, or is it your system which perpetuates inequality?

Which "system"?

Under the current Administration, despite Obama's "middle class this and middle class that" who do you think has had their wealth eroded more: The rich, the middle class or the poor?

Take one of the largest groups in the U.S. that are undereducated and underemployed: Young, black males. Listen to this Nobel Laureate's comments regarding that (1:19):

Unholey coalition of "Do-Gooders" and Special Interests and effect of minimum wage on Black Unempoyment

Yes, good old Milton - the issue with this rationale is that the theory does not work like that in practice. What is stopping the Dutch with $10 minimum wages (high - at least comparing to the US), plus a myriad of other labour force protective laws, to have reasonably low unemployment even in the time of crisis in the EU (I think it is about 6.5%), and a highly skilled and paid workforce? There are various other drivers in the society that make it more divided, and that in it's own way is a long discussion with various points and opinions.

Minimum wage laws on their own are not a good point for "wrong regulation", as there is plenty of other regulation that is more damaging (at least in my view) to the ability to employ, or give a chance to the "not-haves" in order to succeed in the society.

Both countries are having issues, and by the looks of it, some Americans would have a lot longer life if nothing else - if they were living in Cuba.

You are the victim of falsification and distortion of statistics by Cuba:

Cuba's "Long Life Expentancy"

The Mythology od Cuban Health Care

But perhaps some Americans would live longer in Cuba. Especially those who, in the U.S. (but not Cuba) can afford to abuse themselves (and sometimes their unborn babies) with alcohol and drugs. One of the flaws in using infant mortality as a proxy for Health Care delivery is that even the best Health care can't counteract a low birth weight babyborn to a mother who has abused herself with drugs and alcohol. Do you suppose a "crack baby" born in the U.S. would fare better if born in Cuba?

US clearly has issues in certain parts of the population, while Cubans are really third world, the main reason they are put up in those discussions is that they are even comparable on some points, which is not what one would expect. If you wanted to compare fairly, or in order to learn something, you would need to pick up some other develped country at this stage which gets superior results in terms of healthcare.. some countries like Japan, Norway or Germany, The Netherlands would be good as well. The Netherlands especially on drugs laws, the impact on their society and the ability for them to control it better with more reasonable regulation that they have in place, most of the world could learn from them in that respect.

That is a good example of "indirect" regulation which has direct impact on healthcare and other aspects of the society, but as such will "never?" or no time soon get on the discussion table in most places.

It is interesting when you compare life expectancy by US States, they range is from 81 years in Hawaii to 75 years in Mississippi. Pretty wide gap, and a four year gap behind Cubans in some of those "red states".

Comparing the methodology of data collection and analysis between the U.S. and Cuba as equivalent is not justified (see above references). Communist Regimes have long be expert at manipulating demographic data (see above reference's which you still have not obviously read).

I did read it, and one can say "fair enough" as Cuba is not a bastion of transparency, but again - how much can they manipulate it - 2 years, 4 years, more? In any case you if one wants to make a fair comparison, US should be compared vs other developed nations and Cuba is not exactly a type of society that anyone is striving for (except maybe environmentalists, as Cubans do have by far the lowest environmnetnal footprint for a nation with reasonably high life expectancy and Human Development Index ) ...

Another interesting point - if you were in the state that voted for Obama on the last elections, you can expect to live 2 years longer .

Are you suggesting a cause and effect? Good Grief....

That was funny - at least for me , but in principle the real issue is a pretty wide disparity that you have in life expectancy across the union, 6 years from top state to the bottom one, is a lot.

One way or another - there are issues everywhere, and making healthcare coverage more universal does not mean that you have to have Obama as a dictator for next 50 years. There is a middle ground, but current rethoric that I see coming from the US is "me - me - me - and the others can screw themselves"

That's not the majority of Americans..

It only looks like that, farily often wither in the media or reading what general people post here, or elsewhere, but I certainly hope it is not the majority.

, which despite of still very high economic production is leaving your country a very divided place, and in many cases like the third world, an "us and them" society.

Have you seen the statistics on the U.S. being a "divided place" since the election of the Divider -in-Chief?

Well those stats on life expectancy of race + education factor, are a good indication, and btw that grew a lot in last 20 years, including the years of the divider-in- Chief, so if anything I would not think that things look like they are getting better with the current admin.

Solution to it is accountability, transparency in a system which provides for both the rich and the poor,

Yep.

As N. Pelosi said regarding the ineptly named "Affordable" Care Act, "you need to pass it to see what's in it". And this under a President who promised transparency, and that any bill would be on the Internet and/or C-span for enough time to have it reviewed by the public. A lie of the first order.

RB

Unfortunatley, transparency is what is missing in most of the developed world, it feels like we had more of it towards the end of 20th century, and in this new one the population is getting less and less, by design. It for sure does not look good.

but you seem to be very resistant on doing anything to help anyone else out.

Who is the "you" that you are referring to? Helping out with what? Healthcare?

Obamacare as drafted, is rife with special treatment for special interests and favored groups, including the ability for some groups to opt out, and other groups not.

You - as in the US at large, that goes with the predominant mantra of "everyone for themselves", at least it looks that way, and is getting more vocal from what I can tell.

Obamacare is severely watered down, and you have to wait for the implementation to see how it turns out, you have to start somewhere. However this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak, the real issue is with transparency and accountability, so that myriad of special interest groups can feed on US taxpayers money on this topic and many others, for nothing but a fraction of resulting profits being funneled back as lobbying money.

That is probably one of the most profitable investment anyone can make, US based or international - lobbying money for US congressmen and senators, ROI on laws passed which ensure that US taxpayers money is funneled into your (sponsors) coffers is enormous.

It is ruining you, but it is also runing the rest of the world by default, given the importance of US as a partner, economic or otherwise and the fact that if you lobby US lawmakers successfully, you already sorted your own ones at home, as state department will ensure that whatever is the US position gets followed by the rest of the "friendly" world, as is the case on most issues.

Just the new American way, or was it a dream?

Part of the emerging "New American Way" is in some ways reminiscent of the Old (Failed) Socialist Ways..

RB

There is a continuum from anarchy to dictatorship, from fully free market to state planned economy, and other aspects... various social and political setups fall on different sides of those spectrums.

Still many nations which would be defined as socialist - such as Norway, Sweden, or most of the central European ones, are nothing if not successful, while many captialist ones like the ones in old Latin America (before recent socialist quiet or not so quiet revolutions) could be seen as failed. Even a Communist country as China can be seen as successful...

Many ways to cut it, and a lot depends on the definition.

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DrugaRunda wrote:

snip...

Typically the life expectancy is not doctored, first as it is hard to do, and second because it has no benefit, so that point is weak.

See my reference to the contrary.

The point on Cuba's GDP dropping hard has to do both with their social organization and with US sanctions -

That's not your original contention.

Well - it certainly has to do more with their social organization, but the sanctions helped to make it even worse than it otherwise would be.

While you personally did well in US system, clearly many of your countryman are unable to do the same. Is it just them to blame, or is it your system which perpetuates inequality?

Which "system"?

Under the current Administration, despite Obama's "middle class this and middle class that" who do you think has had their wealth eroded more: The rich, the middle class or the poor?

Take one of the largest groups in the U.S. that are undereducated and underemployed: Young, black males. Listen to this Nobel Laureate's comments regarding that (1:19):

Unholey coalition of "Do-Gooders" and Special Interests and effect of minimum wage on Black Unempoyment

Yes, good old Milton - the issue with this rationale is that the theory does not work like that in practice. What is stopping the Dutch with $10 minimum wages (high - at least comparing to the US), plus a myriad of other labour force protective laws, to have reasonably low unemployment even in the time of crisis in the EU (I think it is about 6.5%), and a highly skilled and paid workforce? There are various other drivers in the society that make it more divided, and that in it's own way is a long discussion with various points and opinions.

Dutch economy is halted by temp work, nobody gets a contract so nobody can mortgage a house or a car or a boat...the money is there but nobody spends it.

Houses were way overpriced but this only could happen due to banks financing up to 110% of the value of a house (or even more).

Now, all of a sudden you need to save for your new hip, pay off the mortgage (instead of partially) and collect less unemployment for a shorter time in case... So people sit on their wallet. Car sales 36% down. One after another store goes bust. In my country there is no cashflow! Plenty of cash but no flow.

Minimum wage laws on their own are not a good point for "wrong regulation", as there is plenty of other regulation that is more damaging (at least in my view) to the ability to employ, or give a chance to the "not-haves" in order to succeed in the society.

Minimum wages should be relative to maximum wages. So if the president of a company wants more he needs to make more to pay more.

If you let companies decide on what to happen we all end up being slaves.

Both countries are having issues, and by the looks of it, some Americans would have a lot longer life if nothing else - if they were living in Cuba.

You are the victim of falsification and distortion of statistics by Cuba:

Cuba's "Long Life Expentancy"

The Mythology od Cuban Health Care

But perhaps some Americans would live longer in Cuba. Especially those who, in the U.S. (but not Cuba) can afford to abuse themselves (and sometimes their unborn babies) with alcohol and drugs. One of the flaws in using infant mortality as a proxy for Health Care delivery is that even the best Health care can't counteract a low birth weight babyborn to a mother who has abused herself with drugs and alcohol. Do you suppose a "crack baby" born in the U.S. would fare better if born in Cuba?

US clearly has issues in certain parts of the population, while Cubans are really third world, the main reason they are put up in those discussions is that they are even comparable on some points, which is not what one would expect. If you wanted to compare fairly, or in order to learn something, you would need to pick up some other develped country at this stage which gets superior results in terms of healthcare.. some countries like Japan, Norway or Germany, The Netherlands would be good as well. The Netherlands especially on drugs laws, the impact on their society and the ability for them to control it better with more reasonable regulation that they have in place, most of the world could learn from them in that respect.

That is a good example of "indirect" regulation which has direct impact on healthcare and other aspects of the society, but as such will "never?" or no time soon get on the discussion table in most places.

It is interesting when you compare life expectancy by US States, they range is from 81 years in Hawaii to 75 years in Mississippi. Pretty wide gap, and a four year gap behind Cubans in some of those "red states".

Comparing the methodology of data collection and analysis between the U.S. and Cuba as equivalent is not justified (see above references). Communist Regimes have long be expert at manipulating demographic data (see above reference's which you still have not obviously read).

I did read it, and one can say "fair enough" as Cuba is not a bastion of transparency, but again - how much can they manipulate it - 2 years, 4 years, more? In any case you if one wants to make a fair comparison, US should be compared vs other developed nations and Cuba is not exactly a type of society that anyone is striving for (except maybe environmentalists, as Cubans do have by far the lowest environmnetnal footprint for a nation with reasonably high life expectancy and Human Development Index ) ...

Another interesting point - if you were in the state that voted for Obama on the last elections, you can expect to live 2 years longer .

Are you suggesting a cause and effect? Good Grief....

That was funny - at least for me , but in principle the real issue is a pretty wide disparity that you have in life expectancy across the union, 6 years from top state to the bottom one, is a lot.

One way or another - there are issues everywhere, and making healthcare coverage more universal does not mean that you have to have Obama as a dictator for next 50 years. There is a middle ground, but current rethoric that I see coming from the US is "me - me - me - and the others can screw themselves"

That's not the majority of Americans..

It only looks like that, farily often wither in the media or reading what general people post here, or elsewhere, but I certainly hope it is not the majority.

, which despite of still very high economic production is leaving your country a very divided place, and in many cases like the third world, an "us and them" society.

Have you seen the statistics on the U.S. being a "divided place" since the election of the Divider -in-Chief?

Well those stats on life expectancy of race + education factor, are a good indication, and btw that grew a lot in last 20 years, including the years of the divider-in- Chief, so if anything I would not think that things look like they are getting better with the current admin.

Solution to it is accountability, transparency in a system which provides for both the rich and the poor,

Yep.

As N. Pelosi said regarding the ineptly named "Affordable" Care Act, "you need to pass it to see what's in it". And this under a President who promised transparency, and that any bill would be on the Internet and/or C-span for enough time to have it reviewed by the public. A lie of the first order.

RB

Unfortunatley, transparency is what is missing in most of the developed world, it feels like we had more of it towards the end of 20th century, and in this new one the population is getting less and less, by design. It for sure does not look good.

but you seem to be very resistant on doing anything to help anyone else out.

Who is the "you" that you are referring to? Helping out with what? Healthcare?

Obamacare as drafted, is rife with special treatment for special interests and favored groups, including the ability for some groups to opt out, and other groups not.

You - as in the US at large, that goes with the predominant mantra of "everyone for themselves", at least it looks that way, and is getting more vocal from what I can tell.

Obamacare is severely watered down, and you have to wait for the implementation to see how it turns out, you have to start somewhere. However this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak, the real issue is with transparency and accountability, so that myriad of special interest groups can feed on US taxpayers money on this topic and many others, for nothing but a fraction of resulting profits being funneled back as lobbying money.

That is probably one of the most profitable investment anyone can make, US based or international - lobbying money for US congressmen and senators, ROI on laws passed which ensure that US taxpayers money is funneled into your (sponsors) coffers is enormous.

It is ruining you, but it is also runing the rest of the world by default, given the importance of US as a partner, economic or otherwise and the fact that if you lobby US lawmakers successfully, you already sorted your own ones at home, as state department will ensure that whatever is the US position gets followed by the rest of the "friendly" world, as is the case on most issues.

Just the new American way, or was it a dream?

Part of the emerging "New American Way" is in some ways reminiscent of the Old (Failed) Socialist Ways..

RB

There is a continuum from anarchy to dictatorship, from fully free market to state planned economy, and other aspects... various social and political setups fall on different sides of those spectrums.

Still many nations which would be defined as socialist - such as Norway, Sweden, or most of the central European ones, are nothing if not successful, while many captialist ones like the ones in old Latin America (before recent socialist quiet or not so quiet revolutions) could be seen as failed. Even a Communist country as China can be seen as successful...

Many ways to cut it, and a lot depends on the definition.

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DrugaRunda wrote:

Still many nations which would be defined as socialist - such as Norway, Sweden, or most of the central European ones, are nothing if not successful, while many captialist ones like the ones in old Latin America (before recent socialist quiet or not so quiet revolutions) could be seen as failed. Even a Communist country as China can be seen as successful...

You've made a number of good points to think about, that I also agree with.

However, I'd like to take the liberty of focusing on one of my "pet peeves": Using Norway as a model for why socialism works.

Norway's "success" as a socialist Country does not translate to the U.S.

On the Validity of Comparing the U.S. to Norway

Norway is a huge exporter of oil, In fact, it is the 5th-biggest oil exporter in the world. Bigger than Iraq. Bigger than Kuwait. And Canada. And the U.S. And Venezuela. It is behind only Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, and the UAE. And remember, its total population is about the same as Saudi Arabia's second-largest city, Jeddah."

Socialism works pretty well until you run out of money. Norway is essentially sitting on a sea of money/oil.

"Liberals often use Norway to bang conservatives over the head about the virtues of socialistic policies."

Oh, by the way, where exactly is most of the oil being drilled from? Off-shore. Of course, there are no oil spills off Nordic shores, right? Wrong.

"Norway is liberal, but not diverse"

Stick Norway, with a population of 4.7 million, between the relatively open Mexican border and the U.S. and see what happens.

You'd get a flood of entitlement seekers from both directions.

Since cutting and pasting is popular in this forum, here are a few from the above referenced article:

So the simple-minded story is that Norway is some great socialist state yet its economy is humming along just nicely. Let me summarize its real keys to prosperity.

  • A tiny, non-diverse, predominantly white and Christian population.
  • Drilling in its ocean for oil to become one of the biggest oil exporters on the planet, and the biggest by far on a per capita basis, all during a time when oil prices quintupled.
  • Letting its carbon footprint grow at one of the fastest paces in Europe, a pace almost five times faster than the U.S.'s.
  • Shrinking its government spending, the equivalent to the U.S. federal government cutting its spending in half over 16 years. Shrinking its government spending to about the level of the U.S.'s, and smaller than most of Europe's.
  • A tax system that is flatter than flat; it is regressive -- the rich pay less than the non-rich.

And while the U.S. government is "investing" in high-speed rail, solar energy, wind energy, etc., look at this Statoil website to see where Norway put its money. (Norway owns 67% of Statoil's stock.)

I'm convinced. Let's imitate Norway.

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http://on.rt.com/o6tda1

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A completely false  story from an extremist right wing corrupt politician.

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Marine Le Pen is a shining example of the type of leadership the civilized world needs.

You mean to say you want neo nazis to run the world? Im glad you dont get to make any decisions on it

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KEVZPHOTOS wrote:

Todd Ka wrote:

Marine Le Pen is a shining example of the type of leadership the civilized world needs.

YOU are kidding us - right?

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No Kev, Le socialisme doesn't work. Not even Russia is socialist anymore. Cuba and N Korea are, and look at the armpits they are. The world is rebelling against the tribe.

North korea is communist not socialist learn the difference. Socialism is the best system when it is not run by corrupt people, just like democracy could of been a great system for the usa but well there is non left in the us.

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Immigration is what is civilizing Europe today. Without immigrants, Europe would collapse.

How full of crap is your statement? Completely!

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Genetically speaking Europe is already a blend of 3/4 Oriental and 1/4 Aryan (India/Iran) genes. 500 million Semitic immigrants will help improve the gene pool and expand Europe to new and better horizons.

Again you are full of crap, aryan does not mean indian! Nor does it mean Iranian. Your figures are also completely off and europe is Not ASIA! You have failed geography at EVERY level

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Re: 'France is plagued by bankruptcy and mass immigration’ - Marine Le Pen
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Summer School wrote:

Immigration is what is civilizing Europe today. Without immigrants, Europe would collapse.

How full of crap is your statement? Completely!

If aware of Europe's unemployment rate it will soon be clean the very opposite is true.

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Re: 'France is plagued by bankruptcy and mass immigration’ - Marine Le Pen
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carizi wrote:

http://on.rt.com/o6tda1

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There seems to be an agreement that France needs to be put back on its feet and, if anyone wants to propose a plan in 5 simple steps to achieve that, please, be my guest, detail the plan and if I like it, I'll organise a revolution to carry out that plan.
Realistic plans only please, I'm already working on a revolution in the US, I'm to busy for nonsense.

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veni vidi vomi

1) Hire Berlusconi as president now that Italy no longer appreciates him

2) Save the frogs by switching to chicken legs

3) Start making Champagne in lower cost places like Chile or South Africa

4) Send in the foreign Legion to take over Brussels in a Coupe

5) Ban MacDonalds from the Champs Elysees

6) Oh and last but not least, make English the official language of France

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Re: 'France is plagued by bankruptcy and mass immigration’ - Marine Le Pen
In reply to Wellington100, Jul 5, 2013

Wellington100 wrote:

LeRentier wrote:

carizi wrote:

http://on.rt.com/o6tda1

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Photography is more than a medium for factual communication of ideas. It is a creative art.
Ansel Adams

There seems to be an agreement that France needs to be put back on its feet and, if anyone wants to propose a plan in 5 simple steps to achieve that, please, be my guest, detail the plan and if I like it, I'll organise a revolution to carry out that plan.
Realistic plans only please, I'm already working on a revolution in the US, I'm to busy for nonsense.

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veni vidi vomi

1) Hire Berlusconi as president now that Italy no longer appreciates him

2) Save the frogs by switching to chicken legs

3) Start making Champagne in lower cost places like Chile or South Africa

4) Send in the foreign Legion to take over Brussels in a Coupe

5) Ban MacDonalds from the Champs Elysees

6) Oh and last but not least, make English the official language of France

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Doctors are bad for your lifestyle.

Your case of dementia is worse than I thought.

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