Edward Snowden -- Running like a coward

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Re: Sure is -- Running like a coward
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Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the first remarks out of Snowden's mouth after he fled to Hong Kong was: "I'll accept whatever punishment I get."

Now he has a list of 15 countries he is applying to trying to get asylum.

What a brave soul.

My uncle said the same when this story first broke. Meanwhile, liberals and Libertarians have their panties in a twist acting like drama queens.

Does your uncle still refer to 'reefer smoking negroes' and 'pinko commies in hollywood'..?

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Re: Edward Snowden -- Running like a coward
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sensibill wrote:

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Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the first remarks out of Snowden's mouth after he fled to Hong Kong was: "I'll accept whatever punishment I get."

Now he has a list of 15 countries he is applying to trying to get asylum.

What a brave soul.

Oh, right, he shouldn't avoid 'fair and just' persecution (aka bullet in the eye) the USA is looking to give him.

You'd think the various anti-Obama birther types around here would be cheering the guy.

"When was the last time you put YOUR ass on the line for what you believe in..?"

Every night when I disagree with my wife.

Snowden has been backed into a corner.

If more information is leaked, he will be sent packing by the Russians.

I think if he bad any balls at all, he would turn himself in and let the rest of the data be leaked.

He could then have lots of time to ponder what a hero he is.

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Re: Edward Snowden -- Running like a coward
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"When was the last time you put YOUR ass on the line for what you believe in..?"

Every night when I disagree with my wife.

You either need to become a less disagreeable SOB, or you need to grow a pair.

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Ahender wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the first remarks out of Snowden's mouth after he fled to Hong Kong was: "I'll accept whatever punishment I get."

Now he has a list of 15 countries he is applying to trying to get asylum.

What a brave soul.

You can either consider his revelation as this summer's best soap or say to yourself that Snowden will stop running once he has made public all the dirty secrets he discovered.

I expect the next revelation to include details on he industrial spying done by he NSA and for the sole benefit of American corporations who are willing to pay for it.

Now that's a far stretch, considering that it has been well documented that China is into the spying game strictly for the industrial/corporation secrets. The NSA are certainly not spying on France for their expansive industrial knowledge, as they are not spying on China for their corporate secrets.

And the USA isn't? China is quite frank about their corporate espionage. The USA just controls the media and 'culture' so that we breed cows that don't know or don't care one way or the other.

The NSA biggest concern today is to see to it, that when the Big Bang does goes off, and it someday certainly will, they will know exactly who were the 'friends' involved in the interim of analysing the trail of the lighting that wick.

Whatever the hell that means.

When people are observed covering such trails today, be them friend or foe.... it is time their communications be closely watched.... no matter what country they are from.
And if any one country wants to bitch about being eavesdropped on..... Too Bad!

Except that we aren't the World Police and the USA doesn't have the right to flagrantly violate the privacy of other countries' citizens.

Who you determine is 'friend or foe' and what you do with them is in question, here. Do we waterboard everyone who speaks out against the guvmint? Criminalize dissent? You secessionist teabaggers might not like that last bit.

I think now we can all rest assured that any so called documents won't come from Snowden himself, but rather only statements of such coming from the anti-US crowd overseas.

Kind of telling though, when the ENTIRE WORLD is the 'anti-US crowd'.

There will not be any official 'Snowman' documents for all to see... only fraudulent or undetermined origin of said documents, or other hear-say statements from the IMFA....
International Multinational Fraudsters Association.

If this were true, the NSA wouldn't give a fig about the guy.

Can't have it both ways, there. Either he's correct and you're a sheep fool for attacking a valuable whistleblower, or he's a know-nothing faker and the USA is spending umpteen millions on reeling him in because of... Posturing? Yeah, sure.

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Re: Edward Snowden -- Running like a coward
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Wheatfield wrote:

Ahender wrote:

"When was the last time you put YOUR ass on the line for what you believe in..?"

Every night when I disagree with my wife.

You either need to become a less disagreeable SOB, or you need to grow a pair.

My comment was a poor attempt at humor.

Guess I need to use those ridiculous smiley symbols.

Nope, not going to do it!

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US government charges man for spying, because he warned US citizens they are being spied on
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This should be the thread title:

"US government charges man for spying, because he warned US citizens they are being spied on"

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Bravery is not the issue...
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Ahender wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the first remarks out of Snowden's mouth after he fled to Hong Kong was: "I'll accept whatever punishment I get."

Now he has a list of 15 countries he is applying to trying to get asylum.

What a brave soul.

... more of these guys are needed now more than ever.

Besides, just because he will accept punishment doesn't mean he has to stand still while his prosecutors beat the sheesh out of him.  When he gets a chance for justice we will se what happens but at the moment he is up against America.  Justice is a pliable concept there.

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Now that's a far stretch, considering that it has been well documented that China is into the spying game strictly for the industrial/corporation secrets. The NSA are certainly not spying on France for their expansive industrial knowledge, as they are not spying on China for their corporate secrets.

See your not good informed. NSA was attacking Airbus in France more then twice and Airbus lost 2 orders because of that.

So no diffrence to china, but that wouldn´t make me proud.

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Edward Snowden should seek asylum in the only place..
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beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

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The US has become DANGEROUSLY psychotic
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beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

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Re: The US has become DANGEROUSLY psychotic
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Brian D. Schneider wrote:

beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Who gives a fvkc besides some nutcase like you? LMFAO! "Risking the life!" U r such a a drama queen Squidly.

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

Whatever, pussy.

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Re: Edward Snowden -- Running like a coward
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Ahender wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the first remarks out of Snowden's mouth after he fled to Hong Kong was: "I'll accept whatever punishment I get."

Now he has a list of 15 countries he is applying to trying to get asylum.

What a brave soul.

Running like a coward? Wow you are a giant dumbass! The us government effed you up thr ahole and the one trying to stop it is the bad guy? I guess you are gay & like to take it from the government hard

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Re: The US has become DANGEROUSLY psychotic
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Johnsonj wrote:

Chato wrote:

Brian D. Schneider wrote:

beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Who gives a fvkc besides some nutcase like you? LMFAO! "Risking the life!" U r such a a drama queen Squidly.

They should have just shot it down right Unkafuker?

I mean who cares if a head of state dies it's just some greaseball south american.

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

Whatever, pussy.

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Brian D. Schneider wrote:

Johnsonj wrote:

Chato wrote:

Brian D. Schneider wrote:

beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Who gives a fvkc besides some nutcase like you? LMFAO! "Risking the life!" U r such a a drama queen Squidly.

They should have just shot it down right Unkafuker?

I mean who cares if a head of state dies it's just some greaseball south american.

U said it, not me.

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

Whatever, pussy.

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Johnsonj wrote:

Brian D. Schneider wrote:

Johnsonj wrote:

Chato wrote:

Brian D. Schneider wrote:

beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Who gives a fvkc besides some nutcase like you? LMFAO! "Risking the life!" U r such a a drama queen Squidly.

They should have just shot it down right Unkafuker?

I mean who cares if a head of state dies it's just some greaseball south american.

U said it, not me.

It's just the way you think Unkafker

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

Whatever, pussy.

Dave

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Brian D. Schneider wrote:

Johnsonj wrote:

Chato wrote:

Brian D. Schneider wrote:

beyond the reach of US law enforcement.

Risking the life of the President of Bolivia on the mere suspicion Snowden was on board

Who gives a fvkc besides some nutcase like you? LMFAO! "Risking the life!" U r such a a drama queen Squidly.

They should have just shot it down right Unkafuker?

I mean who cares if a head of state dies it's just some greaseball south american.

Forcing his plane down in Austria, after they stopped him from flying over France.

These are some dangerous psychopathic enemies that Snowden has made; so dangerous that they would actually risk the lives of world leaders to catch someone whose revelations are dangerous to the government, but not the country.

Completely out of control...

Whatever, pussy.

Dave

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This psychotic risk taking is endangering all our relatons with South America. We are literally running amuck when we endanger the lives of World Leaders. ONe can only imagine US reaction to such an event.

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Now that's a far stretch, considering that it has been well documented that China is into the spying game strictly for the industrial/corporation secrets. The NSA are certainly not spying on France for their expansive industrial knowledge, as they are not spying on China for their corporate secrets.

And the USA isn't? China is quite frank about their corporate espionage. The USA just controls the media and 'culture' so that we breed cows that don't know or don't care one way or the other.

No the US isn't. Japan and the US have been the world leaders concerning the numbers of world patents granted for decades. So much so that the US and Japan had more patents together than the rest of the world combined!

Until... The age of cyber-espionage.

Since 2007 the number of patents granted to China has risen more than twenty fold in comparison to the rest of the world.

In a little over five years....

2007

  • China - 19,000 patents
  • US - 400,000 patents

2010

  • China - 203,000 patents
  • US - 410,000 patents

2013

  • China - 435,000 patents
  • US - 425,000 patents

NOW WHO ARE THE FREAKING THIEVES?

The NSA biggest concern today is to see to it, that when the Big Bang does goes off, and it someday certainly will, they will know exactly who were the 'friends' involved in the interim of analyzing the trail of the lighting that wick.

Whatever the hell that means.

It's not quite rocket science now is it?

Hey sensibill...

Think Man!

When people are observed covering such trails today, be them friend or foe.... it is time their communications be closely watched.... no matter what country they are from.
And if any one country wants to bitch about being eavesdropped on..... Too Bad!

Except that we aren't the World Police and the USA doesn't have the right to flagrantly violate the privacy of other countries' citizens.

Oh yea we do.....!
Just like everyone else does to the US. The freaking thieves!

Who you determine is 'friend or foe' and what you do with them is in question, here. Do we waterboard everyone who speaks out against the guvmint? Criminalize dissent? You secessionist teabaggers might not like that last bit.

So now only those who waterboard everyone, and only those who believe in a strong USA are only teabaggers and no one else.

Excellent!

I think now we can all rest assured that any so called documents won't come from Snowden himself, but rather only statements of such coming from the anti-US crowd overseas.

Kind of telling though, when the ENTIRE WORLD is the 'anti-US crowd'.

You really seem that you don't have the full understanding of how or why that became so.....

The very reasons for the USA to establish the NSA communication rational, is indeed for national security.... albeit friend or foe.....and nothing else.

If you are a person who can truly trust anyone outside of your family.... then you are indeed a very lucky man.

There will not be any official 'Snowman' documents for all to see... only fraudulent or undetermined origin of said documents, or other hear-say statements from the IMFA....
International Multinational Fraudsters Association.

If this were true, the NSA wouldn't give a fig about the guy.

But it is true. There is really nothing more that this traitor can leak, beyond the make believe.

Can't have it both ways, there. Either he's correct and you're a sheep fool for attacking a valuable whistleblower, or he's a know-nothing faker and the USA is spending umpteen millions on reeling him in because of... Posturing? Yeah, sure.

Well now that you've stated that he 'Snowden' is "valuable whistleblower", we know how you stand on the subject. My stance is that he did indeed do domestic harm, in that the US will be hindered in some small way..... but not in any sense of harming international diplomacy. The smarter of the diplomats of said countries know better than that.... and they will keep their mouths shut in public.

You see, all the international boo-ha-ha your reading about, is the biggest international farce since the 9/11 political conspiracy idiots, and their media backers (hackers) broke out onto the net. All to try and convince the plain everyday idiots how to think about the US.

That would include the propagandist magazines of Germany, Der Spiegel, Bild, Stern, Das Beste, the Blick of Switzerland, the RT of Russia, and a host of newspapers in France. And yes some components of even the BBC. These are the majority of journalist along with a few politicians speaking out against the USA/NSA, who have a personal agenda of their own.

This grandstanding by these obvious to most, fakes and foreign idiots, is by far the most dangerous component of our time.... not the actions of the NSA..... in fact they are partly the cause for the NSA's actions. Do you now know what "the hell that means."

......relish in all it's splendor. You may not have very long.

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Re: Coming from the IMFA
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Now that's a far stretch, considering that it has been well documented that China is into the spying game strictly for the industrial/corporation secrets. The NSA are certainly not spying on France for their expansive industrial knowledge, as they are not spying on China for their corporate secrets.

See your not good informed. NSA was attacking Airbus in France more then twice and Airbus lost 2 orders because of that.

So no diffrence to china, but that wouldn´t make me proud.

Point me to that intell please....

I also hear today that NZ will lose the America's Cup because of the NSA.

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Breaking News: Snowden gets two asylum offers
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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — The presidents of Nicaragua and Venezuela offered Friday to grant asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua made their offers during separate speeches in their home countries Friday afternoon.

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