Help with extraction...

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Sunshine_boy
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Help with extraction...
Jun 29, 2013

Although this image looks fairly easy to extract the f/g, yet I don't seem to manage to get straight, smooth lines due to the shadows and the similarity of the wall paper pattern to the skin. I tried with Topaz Remask and with CS6 Refine mask but my results are full of blemishes. Could one of our extraction experts please help by producing a B&W mask at the original size? I will very much appreciate it.

(The lad is a relative who got all dressed up to receive a prize at the end of year college ceremony but I think this background spoils it...). Feel free to edit the image and use a b/g of your choice but I'd like to have the mask and keep it for further use. Thank you

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will link to mask when it's finished uploading.

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My try using Topaz Labs Remask within PSPX5:

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Photoshop Content Aware did a good job
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Not a perfect job though.

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While delete worked well move not good at all
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JJMacks wrote:

Not a perfect job though.

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Try this.., Done in Corel and Vertus. Click image then view original to see original file. Let us know the results from the other masks that come your way.

Sunshine_boy wrote:

Although this image looks fairly easy to extract the f/g, yet I don't seem to manage to get straight, smooth lines due to the shadows and the similarity of the wall paper pattern to the skin. I tried with Topaz Remask and with CS6 Refine mask but my results are full of blemishes. Could one of our extraction experts please help by producing a B&W mask at the original size? I will very much appreciate it.

(The lad is a relative who got all dressed up to receive a prize at the end of year college ceremony but I think this background spoils it...). Feel free to edit the image and use a b/g of your choice but I'd like to have the mask and keep it for further use. Thank you

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In reply to Sunshine_boy, Jun 29, 2013

The original background isn't to bad if you get rid if the Motif and Shadow. The other two were done with Fluid Mask, and as Mike has already posted a Mask to try out, let us know how you get on, if you still encounter problems you could always post the background you would like him on.

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My effort. Extracted with Topaz Remask 3 and adjusted with Portrait Professional. Vignette and background added.

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First, a big THANK you to all respondents.

Second, I need to practise my Topaz Remask a LOT more

Lastly, all posted versions, images or masks were incredibly good

It appears there isn't much between Topaz Remask and Vertus. You have shown that they can both do a great job if handled expertly/properly. I don't know what extraction method PixelP used but his mask (sent to me by message) was top class too.

As I had Mike's mask as well, I worked with both Mike's and PixelP's masks to produce my own final edit and background. Both masks were near perfect. Mike's had an almost imperceptible white line along the left side of the boy's face (right of image) and PixelP's mask was slightly soft on the left shoulder and part of the arm (right of image). Both were only detectable at large magnifications. So, I combined the two masks, using PixelP's head and Mike's body to make my final mask. Here is the result:

Combined Mask (Mike's & PixelP's) + my edit

A cropped version of the final image

Patsy's extraction looks perfect too, and so does Jack's who's b/g I particularly liked.

Thanks for the laugh JJMack. I will tell the boy that's how he'd look behind that wall!...

All in all, there was very little between the masks used by all of you and that leaves me with the big task of catching up with you!...

Many-many thanks for your time and effort

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Thanks for the mask sent through PM PixelP. Could you tell us the extraction method you used?

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I used Topaz Remask 3, it's easy and fast but feel that with more work and time Vertus does a better job with edges, sorry I forgot to include what was used.

Your final result is very good, thumbs up

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Ah yes, I forgot to mention, move the mask, pixel by pixel, to the left, and that line will dissapear. Then place the image on a pure white background, then a pure black background. In fact, please try it and post back.

Sunshine_boy wrote:

First, a big THANK you to all respondents.

Second, I need to practise my Topaz Remask a LOT more

Lastly, all posted versions, images or masks were incredibly good

It appears there isn't much between Topaz Remask and Vertus. You have shown that they can both do a great job if handled expertly/properly. I don't know what extraction method PixelP used but his mask (sent to me by message) was top class too.

As I had Mike's mask as well, I worked with both Mike's and PixelP's masks to produce my own final edit and background. Both masks were near perfect. Mike's had an almost imperceptible white line along the left side of the boy's face (right of image) and PixelP's mask was slightly soft on the left shoulder and part of the arm (right of image). Both were only detectable at large magnifications. So, I combined the two masks, using PixelP's head and Mike's body to make my final mask. Here is the result:

Combined Mask (Mike's & PixelP's) + my edit

A cropped version of the final image

Patsy's extraction looks perfect too, and so does Jack's who's b/g I particularly liked.

Thanks for the laugh JJMack. I will tell the boy that's how he'd look behind that wall!...

All in all, there was very little between the masks used by all of you and that leaves me with the big task of catching up with you!...

Many-many thanks for your time and effort

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In reply to Sunshine_boy, Jun 30, 2013

This was a hard one for me.  Hope you like it.

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My attempt...........Ralph

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Is this another of those hidden images????  Thanks for the laugh.....Ralph

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photogirl44 wrote:

This was a hard one for me. Hope you like it.

It looks pretty good to me, well done.

Regards Patsym

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Thank you.

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Yes, indeed the line fades away as you described Mike. But, since I got a perfect mask by combining yours with PixelP's I am very happy with the end result... Thanks for your assistance and the excellent edits you consistently provide to this forumĀ 

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Pixel Poetry wrote:

I used Topaz Remask 3, it's easy and fast but feel that with more work and time Vertus does a better job with edges, sorry I forgot to include what was used.

Your final result is very good, thumbs up

I like using Topaz Remask but I don't seem to hit the 'excellent' mark yet. Very often I get some fuzzy or jagged lines that are too laborious to correct (as was the case in this exercise). I need to go through some more tutorials and spend more time practising with it. Thanks for your timeĀ 

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