Looking for the best Wifi SD Card for tethering, can anyone recommend an EyeFi alternative?

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Looking for the best Wifi SD Card for tethering, can anyone recommend an EyeFi alternative?
Jun 27, 2013

Hello,

I was looking into some solutions for wireless tethering as I just hate cables, my strobes are already triggered by Pocket Wizards and I was looking for a way to show the client/model the images as they come out of my D800 either on a laptop or iPad/Tablet. Since the D800 has dual card slots I was going to send my RAW images to the CF card and send (Small?Medium?Large?) JPEGs to a WiFi SD card.

Looking at the different options for wireless tethering I saw two names pop up more than any others: Cam Ranger (Not for me as I don't want a thing that I have to plug into the camera that dangles about and that I have to recharge) and the EyeFi (Not my thing either as you apparently have to make an EyeFi account before you can change settings or anything like that) but I don't want to have to make an account to use my WiFi SD card so I am looking for something else, a solution that does not rely on external servers in any way (Who knows, services could shut down in a few years!).

Can anyone recommend a good alternative? Thanks!

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Look into the Transcend WiFi card + ShutterSnitch running on an iPad.

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I remember discussing this in another thread. I do have almost all wi-fi SD cards, and the best one is

http://www.transcend-info.com/products/CatList.asp?FldNo=24&LangNo=0&Func1No=0&Func2No=203

It works in server-client mode, so the card is the (http) server and clients connect with a browser and download whatever they want. However be careful, as even the best wi-fi card is no match for a cable, so you may be dissatisfied anyway (I am...)

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RL Photography wrote:

Look into the Transcend WiFi card + ShutterSnitch running on an iPad.

Does the Transcend work for laptop tethering? Are you happy with it? Following your post I just looked at the ShutterSnitch website and they mentioned a couple of other solutions such as the Transcend Wifi, the Toshiba FlashAir and the PQI Air. Has anyone tested these? Pros/Cons?

Ideally I want a solution that will work on tablets and laptops and that will never rely on the manufacturer's servers (long term operability). The PQI seems very interesting as you can upgrade the memory and card class (Couldn't find much info though!) but the manual says that when using a browser with the card you need to connect to 192.168.1.1 is that the IP address for their servers or for the card? Is the software for the interface hosted on the card itself or on their servers?

Thanks so much for the help!

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I don't believe that the new EyeFi Mobi cards need an account to function at all.  I have the PQI and an EyeFi Pro.  They are very different and for just casual send every photo to my tablet, the EyeFi wins.  The PQI requires me to connect to it and 'request' specific photos be sent.  That said having the ability on the PQI to use any microSD card means I can use it in a non-WiFi mode as a regular memory card and transfer the images to a non-WiFi system easily via the microSD.  Some readers on low powered tablets seem to balk at the EyeFi since the radio drains some current.  My Nexus 7 has an unpowered USB port so it can not manage to see the EyeFi card memory structure due to the overhead draw of the radio.

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Fashion Photographer wrote:

RL Photography wrote:

Look into the Transcend WiFi card + ShutterSnitch running on an iPad.

Does the Transcend work for laptop tethering?

Yes.

Are you happy with it?

I don't have one.  I have an Eye-Fi Pro that I no longer use because I now have a Canon 6D.  Just suggesting an alternative based on your requirements that has been well reviewed.

Following your post I just looked at the ShutterSnitch website and they mentioned a couple of other solutions such as the Transcend Wifi, the Toshiba FlashAir and the PQI Air. Has anyone tested these? Pros/Cons?

Ideally I want a solution that will work on tablets and laptops and that will never rely on the manufacturer's servers (long term operability).

Why?  These cards are cheap.  By the time Eye-Fi goes out of business, you won't care because you will be using something else.  This part of the industry isn't fully mature yet, so worrying about long term use of a particular product isn't very productive.  Note that after having an Eye-Fi for a few years, I left them, they didn't leave me.

However, the Eye-Fi Mobi doesn't require any connection to their servers, but I don't think there is software for it for laptops, just iOS and Android mobile devices.

The PQI seems very interesting as you can upgrade the memory and card class (Couldn't find much info though!) but the manual says that when using a browser with the card you need to connect to 192.168.1.1 is that the IP address for their servers or for the card? Is the software for the interface hosted on the card itself or on their servers?

Thanks so much for the help!

192.168.1.1 is a standard address on the local network being generated by the card.

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Ken Gosden wrote:

I don't believe that the new EyeFi Mobi cards need an account to function at all. I have the PQI and an EyeFi Pro. They are very different and for just casual send every photo to my tablet, the EyeFi wins. The PQI requires me to connect to it and 'request' specific photos be sent. That said having the ability on the PQI to use any microSD card means I can use it in a non-WiFi mode as a regular memory card and transfer the images to a non-WiFi system easily via the microSD. Some readers on low powered tablets seem to balk at the EyeFi since the radio drains some current. My Nexus 7 has an unpowered USB port so it can not manage to see the EyeFi card memory structure due to the overhead draw of the radio.

So if I understand you correctly the PQI does not allow me to just put a laptop/iPad in front of my client where the images progressively pop up while I am shooting in the room next door?

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Fashion Photographer wrote:

Ken Gosden wrote:

I don't believe that the new EyeFi Mobi cards need an account to function at all. I have the PQI and an EyeFi Pro. They are very different and for just casual send every photo to my tablet, the EyeFi wins. The PQI requires me to connect to it and 'request' specific photos be sent. That said having the ability on the PQI to use any microSD card means I can use it in a non-WiFi mode as a regular memory card and transfer the images to a non-WiFi system easily via the microSD. Some readers on low powered tablets seem to balk at the EyeFi since the radio drains some current. My Nexus 7 has an unpowered USB port so it can not manage to see the EyeFi card memory structure due to the overhead draw of the radio.

So if I understand you correctly the PQI does not allow me to just put a laptop/iPad in front of my client where the images progressively pop up while I am shooting in the room next door?

Actually, I am not fully qualified to answer that.  I only use these with my Android tablet.  It could be possible, but was never my main goal.  As another poster indicated the new EyeFi Mobi card might be 'tablet' only.  But with decent tablets well under $200 they might make a great remote display for sharing.

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Thank you all, I think I might get a Transcend. One thing still worries me though, some cameras are apparently incompatible due to power consumption and whatnot and while the D800 is supported by the Transcend Wifi Card I'm worried it may be harmful to the camera in the long run? After all the cameras were not built to support "special" SD cards, were they?

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I would not expect any harm from using these cards in a camera due to the minor additional current draw.  I doubt that the circuits take much more current than a full erase of a card in camera.  DSLR batteries are pretty substantial in their output capabilities.

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I don't think the cameras were made to have "WIFI SD Cards" inserted. If they use more power than regular SD cards then yes, it may short out the camera in the long run since it wasn't made to use that much power I should think. Why is it so important to you to shoot tethered? Reading your post one could think that you didn't do so until now and you were doing just fine, did some of your clients specifically ask for tethered shooting? Why do you even have the client in the same room?

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Evil Genius wrote:

I don't think the cameras were made to have "WIFI SD Cards" inserted. If they use more power than regular SD cards then yes, it may short out the camera in the long run since it wasn't made to use that much power I should think. Why is it so important to you to shoot tethered? Reading your post one could think that you didn't do so until now and you were doing just fine, did some of your clients specifically ask for tethered shooting? Why do you even have the client in the same room?

Really? Well I want to be able to show clients my images as they come and be able to check things on a larger display than the back of the camera. Is it really harmful to the camera?

Still haven't bought anything btw, maybe I will get the Toshiba Flash Air after all but one thing that worries me and still puts me off is that apparently if you format the card in camera it will stop working, is this true? Is there a card you can format in camera without deactivating WIFI capabilities?

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Evil Genius wrote:

I don't think the cameras were made to have "WIFI SD Cards" inserted. If they use more power than regular SD cards then yes, it may short out the camera in the long run since it wasn't made to use that much power I should think. Why is it so important to you to shoot tethered? Reading your post one could think that you didn't do so until now and you were doing just fine, did some of your clients specifically ask for tethered shooting? Why do you even have the client in the same room?

Really? Well I want to be able to show clients my images as they come and be able to check things on a larger display than the back of the camera. Is it really harmful to the camera?

Still haven't bought anything btw, maybe I will get the Toshiba Flash Air after all but one thing that worries me and still puts me off is that apparently if you format the card in camera it will stop working, is this true? Is there a card you can format in camera without deactivating WIFI capabilities?

I will have to check on my PQI card.  I believe it can be formatted in camera, but the big difference with this card is that it has no built in memory. It is just a microSD adapter that has a WiFi router built-in.  So you could format your selected microSD card in a separate SD adapter, then insert it into the PQI card.  I do know that it places some control images onto the card, but it has been a few weeks since I played with it.

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Fashion Photographer wrote:

Evil Genius wrote:

I don't think the cameras were made to have "WIFI SD Cards" inserted. If they use more power than regular SD cards then yes, it may short out the camera in the long run since it wasn't made to use that much power I should think. Why is it so important to you to shoot tethered? Reading your post one could think that you didn't do so until now and you were doing just fine, did some of your clients specifically ask for tethered shooting? Why do you even have the client in the same room?

Really? Well I want to be able to show clients my images as they come and be able to check things on a larger display than the back of the camera. Is it really harmful to the camera?

Still haven't bought anything btw, maybe I will get the Toshiba Flash Air after all but one thing that worries me and still puts me off is that apparently if you format the card in camera it will stop working, is this true? Is there a card you can format in camera without deactivating WIFI capabilities?

I will have to check on my PQI card. I believe it can be formatted in camera, but the big difference with this card is that it has no built in memory. It is just a microSD adapter that has a WiFi router built-in. So you could format your selected microSD card in a separate SD adapter, then insert it into the PQI card. I do know that it places some control images onto the card, but it has been a few weeks since I played with it.

Are you using a D800?

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Fashion Photographer wrote:

Ken Gosden wrote:

Fashion Photographer wrote:

Evil Genius wrote:

I don't think the cameras were made to have "WIFI SD Cards" inserted. If they use more power than regular SD cards then yes, it may short out the camera in the long run since it wasn't made to use that much power I should think. Why is it so important to you to shoot tethered? Reading your post one could think that you didn't do so until now and you were doing just fine, did some of your clients specifically ask for tethered shooting? Why do you even have the client in the same room?

Really? Well I want to be able to show clients my images as they come and be able to check things on a larger display than the back of the camera. Is it really harmful to the camera?

Still haven't bought anything btw, maybe I will get the Toshiba Flash Air after all but one thing that worries me and still puts me off is that apparently if you format the card in camera it will stop working, is this true? Is there a card you can format in camera without deactivating WIFI capabilities?

I will have to check on my PQI card. I believe it can be formatted in camera, but the big difference with this card is that it has no built in memory. It is just a microSD adapter that has a WiFi router built-in. So you could format your selected microSD card in a separate SD adapter, then insert it into the PQI card. I do know that it places some control images onto the card, but it has been a few weeks since I played with it.

Are you using a D800?

Sorry not a Nikon user. I have used the card in a number of my Olympus cameras, E-5, XZ-1, XZ-2, E-PM1. I can't recall if I tested it in my friend's Nikon D60 when he visited. I tried the EyeFi, but it failed to communicate with my devices.

From the PQI FAQ pages: PQI Air Card may be formatted like any other memory card. Formatting will not delete any wireless network settings.

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