Which one of this is a best one?

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ak1981
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Which one of this is a best one?
Jun 26, 2013

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

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Sony DSLT A-55
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In reply to ak1981, Jun 26, 2013

this is a loaded question I hope your ready lol but out of the 3, the a57 has my vote.

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A77 for me...

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A65 for me

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In reply to ak1981, Jun 26, 2013

... is confirmation bias. I can think of some arguments as to why one particular camera is better, and it would depend on what factors would be weighed the most, but simply which is the best, is likely to result in a measurement in which cameras people happen to own when they come across this poll.

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ak1981 wrote:

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

vote a58 for IQ/VF/operational(response) speed.

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ak1981 wrote:

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

For videos, the A57 and for still images, the A58. the rest is very subjective.

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While comparing cameras before you buy is always a good thing, here is what I ask myself: What is better at taking photos, me or the camera? Also included is, will I survive the after the better-half find out I bought another "electronic device"?

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TristanW wrote:

ak1981 wrote:

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

vote a58 for IQ/VF/operational(response) speed.

A57 is proven to have better IQ than A58, regardless of what you believe.

This "operational response speed" is a new thing. Tell me more about that.

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villebon wrote:

ak1981 wrote:

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

For videos, the A57 and for still images, the A58. the rest is very subjective.

The A57 is proven to have a higher dynamic range and better low light performance than the A58.

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While comparing cameras before you buy is always a good thing, here is what I ask myself: What is better at taking photos, me or the camera? Also included is, will I survive the after the better-half find out I bought another "electronic device"?

I agree that it's silly to bicker over minor differences, or compromises that are not at all unreasonable to live with. It's just that in my case, what irks me, is when people make false claims. Like the repeated "A58 has better eye-queue" thing, which is false, because the measured dynamic range and low light performance was found to be better on the A57 for instance.

As for the wife thing - that's the only thing keeping me from buying a second body, the A77 at this point... $900. $750 used. It needs to sink much lower to pass the wife...

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For awhile, I had the a57 and a65. When I "needed" something else, I picked my favorite to keep, the a57. I still have it and still love it.

I've since bought the a77 and love the camera. It grows on you. In my opinion, it does no better or worse in my uses than the a57, but it's more fun to use and I always keep my most used lens on it.

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123Mike wrote:

villebon wrote:

ak1981 wrote:

I love DSLT cameras. I know loads of forum friends have it. Just want to know in your view which one is the best in terms of Function, Quality, Body (size & Shape) and Budget?

For videos, the A57 and for still images, the A58. the rest is very subjective.

The A57 is proven to have a higher dynamic range and better low light performance than the A58.

Proven by whom? Real world, it won't make any difference. Dynamic range is only .5 EVS in favor of A57 and as for low light, DXOMark test shows that they're about the same.

I've printed RAW images from the A58 to 30"x45" and there's no way that the A57 can match the rez.

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I've printed RAW images from the A58 to 30"x45" and there's no way that the A57 can match the rez.

By that reasoning, an A65 or A77 would literally blow your A58 away....

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Of course all three of these cameras are excellent!

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How about an I don't know option

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123Mike wrote:

As for the wife thing - that's the only thing keeping me from buying a second body, the A77 at this point... $900. $750 used. It needs to sink much lower to pass the wife...

I've been meaning to ask you, why the 77 and not the 65? I mean, 77 obviously wins for features, but the 65 still seems respectable with the same sensor and more affordable. Just curious. Thanks

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Don't they?  I would have thought so.

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123Mike wrote:

As for the wife thing - that's the only thing keeping me from buying a second body, the A77 at this point... $900. $750 used. It needs to sink much lower to pass the wife...

I've been meaning to ask you, why the 77 and not the 65? I mean, 77 obviously wins for features, but the 65 still seems respectable with the same sensor and more affordable. Just curious. Thanks

The AF micro adjust is very tempting of the A77. Plus the LCD screen on the top. ISO limiting, and profiles. It all adds up.

But you're right. The sensor is the same. The results ought to be pretty much on par. Also, the A77 costs 50% more than an A65 where I am (Canada, $900 vs $600).

I can't justify the expense though. I have to come to terms with it. I have the A57 and that's just fine. I think I'll get a used older Alpha for the wife I think. For video she can use an HD camcorder we still have kicking around.

I'm seeing used deals for $150 for an A330. It'll do for casual snapshots. Still a helluvalot better than any P&S.

So, no A65/77 for me for now... What about you, are you looking to upgrade, or getting a second body? The whole second body thing is like cars. Why have so many cars in the driveway? It makes sense to have one good family car, and an old beater to get around.

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123Mike wrote:

The AF micro adjust is very tempting of the A77. Plus the LCD screen on the top. ISO limiting, and profiles. It all adds up.

But you're right. The sensor is the same. The results ought to be pretty much on par. Also, the A77 costs 50% more than an A65 where I am (Canada, $900 vs $600).

I can't justify the expense though. I have to come to terms with it. I have the A57 and that's just fine. I think I'll get a used older Alpha for the wife I think. For video she can use an HD camcorder we still have kicking around.

I'm seeing used deals for $150 for an A330. It'll do for casual snapshots. Still a helluvalot better than any P&S.

So, no A65/77 for me for now... What about you, are you looking to upgrade, or getting a second body? The whole second body thing is like cars. Why have so many cars in the driveway? It makes sense to have one good family car, and an old beater to get around.

I agree about the A77. Very well-appointed camera! But in the US, it's $900 for the A77 and $650 for the A65. I'm thinking about a second body, but only to get more of a good thing. I'm sort of in the same boat you are with my wife. My wife likes her P&S & her phone. She already sees my setup as overkill. So, no way that 77 would fly now. But maybe if I get a cherry deal several months down the road, that could work.

The trouble is, I don't *need* another body. In terms of what I want a camera to do, the 57 is outstanding! I could use a bit more portable lighting, but I've got a nice flash now. And I'm happy with my lenses. They do what I need, as long as I don't get into extreme low-light. But *want* is always a different story.

Twist my arm, make me take that 24MP sensor along with a Sony 16-50 or Tamron 17-50, or even that slick Sigma 18-35 art lens. Then, maybe add a Tamron 200-500 for ridiculously long reach. All that could be a lot of fun! And I could still get the lenses, but I especially like my A57 with the 18-135 for walking around. So, a second body could be like the specialty team. We'll see.

Thanks for your thoughts

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