Good long lens?

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behyer
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Good long lens?
Jun 20, 2013

Okay, I'm spoiled, I'm used to pretty nice lenses on my NEX-7, including the Zeiss 24/1.8, the Touit 32, a Biogon 35/2, and a Leica Summicron-M 90/2 (pre-Aspherical model). I'd like a long lens, the faster the better, but not so big that it dwarfs the camera (so I'm not interested in a DSLR lens with an adapter).

I've tried two so far, the Olympus Zuiko 200/4, and the Leica Elmarit-R 180/4. The Leica is okay, I guess, but it's not in the same class as my other lenses. The Zuiko is disappointingly poor, especially since I used to shoot OM cameras and I expected it to be better. (Maybe the poor performance is a function of the NEX-7 sensor, but the other lenses I have give great results.)

Any suggestions? Did I buy the wrong Leica 180? I can't afford the newer ones but how about the 180/3.4 APO? That can be had for $1100 +/- and it's supposed to be good. Or should I scrap the 180-200mm focal length idea (270 to 300mm equivalents) and try a 135 (200mm equivalent)? Leica R or M?

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In reply to behyer, Jun 20, 2013

I get good results from a Nikon 200mm f/4, but only at high shutter speeds. The least bit of camera shake loses its sharpness.

Aim for speeds of 1/1000 or higher. If on a tripod, use the remote release - tripods can vibrate a little. ISO 800 is OK.

I suspect your lenses are better than you think.

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In reply to behyer, Jun 20, 2013

behyer wrote:

Okay, I'm spoiled, I'm used to pretty nice lenses on my NEX-7, including the Zeiss 24/1.8, the Touit 32, a Biogon 35/2, and a Leica Summicron-M 90/2 (pre-Aspherical model). I'd like a long lens, the faster the better, but not so big that it dwarfs the camera (so I'm not interested in a DSLR lens with an adapter).

I've tried two so far, the Olympus Zuiko 200/4, and the Leica Elmarit-R 180/4. The Leica is okay, I guess, but it's not in the same class as my other lenses. The Zuiko is disappointingly poor, especially since I used to shoot OM cameras and I expected it to be better. (Maybe the poor performance is a function of the NEX-7 sensor, but the other lenses I have give great results.)

Any suggestions? Did I buy the wrong Leica 180? I can't afford the newer ones but how about the 180/3.4 APO? That can be had for $1100 +/- and it's supposed to be good. Or should I scrap the 180-200mm focal length idea (270 to 300mm equivalents) and try a 135 (200mm equivalent)? Leica R or M?

How about Minolta APO 200 f2.8 G APO HS with a LA-EA2. I have 300 f2.8 APO HS but that is a big lens. 200 is supposed to be better and it's smaller too. With LA-EA2 you can get use of PDAF - quite useful for lonegr FL.

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In reply to behyer, Jun 20, 2013

The Olympus OM 200/4 was a consumer-grade lens, lacking ED glass, fluorite, or other exotic materials found in pro-grade telephotos. It was rated "average" by this user survey:

http://www.photozone.de/active/survey/querylenstxt.jsp?filter=%22brand='Olympus%20Zuiko'%22

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In reply to behyer, Jun 21, 2013

If you're careful you can find a Nikkor 180/2.8 ED for under $300 (but make sure you get the ED. I found mine for $250 a few years ago). Sharp, reasonably light, relatively fast. I'm quite happy to use this wide open. My only beef is lack of a tripod mount.

If you're willing to drop $1100 you might also consider the CV 180/4. If you can find one.

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In reply to behyer, Jun 21, 2013

Shot with a 135mm f3.5 Canon LTM (Leica Thread Mount) lens at f3.5

I know of no 135mm lens more compatible (size-wise) and sharper than the latest (black) version of this classic rangefinder lens. They occasionally come up on eBay. Longer than 135mm is pretty hard to hand-hold at slow speeds - this isn't as sharp as it could be because of being hand-held.

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In reply to verybiglebowski, Jun 21, 2013

verybiglebowski wrote:

behyer wrote:

Okay, I'm spoiled, I'm used to pretty nice lenses on my NEX-7, including the Zeiss 24/1.8, the Touit 32, a Biogon 35/2, and a Leica Summicron-M 90/2 (pre-Aspherical model). I'd like a long lens, the faster the better, but not so big that it dwarfs the camera (so I'm not interested in a DSLR lens with an adapter).

I've tried two so far, the Olympus Zuiko 200/4, and the Leica Elmarit-R 180/4. The Leica is okay, I guess, but it's not in the same class as my other lenses. The Zuiko is disappointingly poor, especially since I used to shoot OM cameras and I expected it to be better. (Maybe the poor performance is a function of the NEX-7 sensor, but the other lenses I have give great results.)

Any suggestions? Did I buy the wrong Leica 180? I can't afford the newer ones but how about the 180/3.4 APO? That can be had for $1100 +/- and it's supposed to be good. Or should I scrap the 180-200mm focal length idea (270 to 300mm equivalents) and try a 135 (200mm equivalent)? Leica R or M?

How about Minolta APO 200 f2.8 G APO HS with a LA-EA2. I have 300 f2.8 APO HS but that is a big lens. 200 is supposed to be better and it's smaller too. With LA-EA2 you can get use of PDAF - quite useful for lonegr FL.

I stopped by to recommend this lens... one I have and love.

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