Nik and Photoshop CC

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Nik and Photoshop CC
Jun 18, 2013

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

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bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

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Another reason not to upgrade...

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Unlike many, I have no problem with the overall CC concept but there is so little new in Photoshop CC that it should embarrass Adobe to issue the product as a fully new version. At best, it is a point release from a functionality viewpoint.

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In reply to bunyarra, Jun 18, 2013

Damn.

Bad deal twice for people who bought the nik suite before the massive sale and use ACC, when they no longe work with CC as probably development is finished in CC.

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Damn.

Bad deal twice for people who bought the nik suite before the massive sale and use ACC, when they no longe work with CC as probably development is finished in CC.

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It is just an installer issue - if you fiddle, you can get them working.  To say Nik development is finished on CC is just about as daft a statement as I've heard for a while. why on earth would you think that despite everything nik people have said? Adobe have even shown Nik running in CC ... just a shame they did not have the installer pre-prepared.

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In reply to bunyarra, Jun 18, 2013

in the adobe forum there is a clear answer (via email) from google (nik) stating there is no plan currently for any future development on nik products for CC and that these are officially considered not compatible with CC.

thus, the suspicion of nik plug ins being at eol is not a stupid one.

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In reply to fpessolano, Jun 18, 2013

Well, I would assume that the EOL status of NIK tools depends on the size of the market for editors compatible with such plug-ins and Google's perceived desire to take advantage of such a market.  Adobe's move changes market dynamics considerably for everyone not just Adobe and Adobe users.

Even if Nik dies a slow death as a standalone product line, there are other vendors.  And we may see greater emphasis from them on making sure thier products are compatible with PSP, Photo-Paint, and Serif Photo Plus

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fpessolano wrote:

in the adobe forum there is a clear answer (via email) from google (nik) stating there is no plan currently for any future development on nik products for CC and that these are officially considered not compatible with CC.

Please do link to this - it does not seem publically known.

Edit : Found it.

"I am sorry to inform you that Adobe Creative Cloud is not compatible with the Nik Collection and we don't have information if it will be in the future."

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5355429

This is from 6th June and it's not a statement that they are not developing but simply there is no information avail yet on it. If you have a glass half-empty view, it can be read as "dead" or, alternatively, just that they will not pre-announce products not yet released.

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And the current reply from Google as of 2 mins ago :

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Dear Michael,

Thank you for contacting Nik by Google.

Now that Adobe's new Creative Cloud has been released, our engineers are quickly working to test compatibility and release any necessary updates. We will update our compatibility listing on our website (here) once we are sure that the software is compatible and any updates to the Nik Collection have already been released.

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I thus refer back to my prior observation. Why people think Nik s/w is being abandoned I really can't fathom

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bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

you can copy the content of plug-ins folder from CS6 to CC, that works (Windows)

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In reply to bunyarra, Jun 18, 2013

bunyarra wrote:

And the current reply from Google as of 2 mins ago :

Very curious!  Is this another adobe flub?  It is clear that vendors of plug-ins got releases early in the past in order to prepare for the formal release.  But now not?  Seems a big problem with CC releases to me.  Or should you see CC releases as the betas?

It would also seem to be a very bad sign that already something about plug-ins has changed. I don't remember having to upgrade plug-ins in the past for a new CS release.

Plugins are very important to me.  But it doesn't matter because I'm not going to rent their software.  CS6 forever!

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I don't think anything has changed with plug-ins Google is just being cautious with there answers and a untested product.

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exdeejjjaaaa wrote:

bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

you can copy the content of plug-ins folder from CS6 to CC, that works (Windows)

IT ALSO WORKS IN MAC...I DID IT THIS MORNING. THE PLUGINS WORK GREAT....oddly... faster as well.

Instal the Nik software into a new folder somewhere and then drag/copy the "Google" folder into the CC plugins folder and you will see all the Nik SOFTWARE IN THE USUAL FILTERS OPTION.

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exdeejjjaaaa wrote:

bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

you can copy the content of plug-ins folder from CS6 to CC, that works (Windows)

Yup - it seems to for some. But .....

http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2013/06/updatingupgrading-to-photoshop-cc-faq.html#plugins

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Do not manually drag plug-ins from a previous version of Photoshop’s plug-ins folder to a newer version of Photoshop’s ‘Plug-Ins’ folder

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In reply to bunyarra, Jun 18, 2013

bunyarra wrote:

exdeejjjaaaa wrote:

bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

you can copy the content of plug-ins folder from CS6 to CC, that works (Windows)

Yup - it seems to for some. But .....

http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2013/06/updatingupgrading-to-photoshop-cc-faq.html#plugins

DO NOT:

Do not manually drag plug-ins from a previous version of Photoshop’s plug-ins folder to a newer version of Photoshop’s ‘Plug-Ins’ folder

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Interesting...I copied in a new freshly downloaded set from Nik.  Time will tell.....so far so good. Easy to uninstall  and start CC if it doesn't work out.

Got to love the Nik plug ins...

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In reply to fpessolano, Jun 18, 2013

fpessolano wrote:

Damn.

Bad deal twice for people who bought the nik suite before the massive sale and use ACC, when they no longe work with CC as probably development is finished in CC.

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and another nail in your pessimistic coffin containing Nik

https://support.google.com/nikcollection/answer/3212033?hl=en&ref_topic=3000839

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In reply to Walter, Jun 19, 2013

Walter wrote:

bunyarra wrote:

exdeejjjaaaa wrote:

bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

you can copy the content of plug-ins folder from CS6 to CC, that works (Windows)

Yup - it seems to for some. But .....

http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2013/06/updatingupgrading-to-photoshop-cc-faq.html#plugins

DO NOT:

Do not manually drag plug-ins from a previous version of Photoshop’s plug-ins folder to a newer version of Photoshop’s ‘Plug-Ins’ folder

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Interesting...I copied in a new freshly downloaded set from Nik. Time will tell.....so far so good. Easy to uninstall and start CC if it doesn't work out.

Got to love the Nik plug ins...

Walter

If this is true, then all plugins could be broken, which could result in additional expense of upgrading plugins plus more expensive CC, so all the more reason not to change to Photoshop CC

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In reply to bunyarra, Jun 19, 2013

bunyarra wrote:

If you rely on Nik apps inside Photoshop, you might want to wait a few days before upgrading to CC - the current installer does not recognise the updated Photoshop.

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...all my NIK and Topaz plugins installed fine and work as in PS6. PSCC is noticeably faster starting up and loading photos. I see no basic differences in operation.

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You can no longer create folders in the Plugins folder. PSCC automatically segregates the individual plugins into a source group when you look in the Filters dropdown. It seemed for me dragging and dropping the individual plugin files from CS6 works as well as doing the more formal installs. Just don't drag and drop the folders.

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In reply to digital ed, Jun 19, 2013

This looks stranger and stranger.

While no plugins are visible when CC is launched via LR5 or directly, they all pop into existence if you load an image via Bridge.

Very odd. Either the plugin scanning is broken or the rules for how plugins get registered has changed.

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Re: No Problem...
In reply to bunyarra, 11 months ago

I have been using Nik Color Efex and Silver Efex Pro 2 for years with Photoshop but recently started using Photoshop CC

With the new Google Nik Silver Efex Pro 2 I received a free upgrade by supplying my key from one of the products and manually installed it in Photoshop CC.

But when I use Silver Efex Pro 2 with many of the high contrast filters such as Full Dynamic (harsh) or (smooth) or any of the others there is a noticeable two line band on all my images. Sometime in both a horizontal or vertical direction. These lines are two line and mathematically spaced.

see this of a shot from a Nikon D300 .jpg using Silver Efex Pro 2:Full Dynamic (harsh)

http://www.connare.com/normandy_beach-banding.jpg

This happens with RAW or jpg image from a Canon 5D mark iii, a Nikon D300 D2X or a Leica M9-P so it isn't camera specific or cheap camera specific.

I have emailed them the complaint but I have heard nothing. I also notice my Nikon D2X NEF RAW files previews are not fully rasterized in Photoshop CC.

Anyone have a similar problem?

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vinceconnare

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