light reverse engineering

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b4cktr4ck
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light reverse engineering
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Hi,

I'd like to take a photo with a similar result

what I can see:

One light camera left high (shadow of the collar left side of model)

One light (beauty dish?) front of model?

One light camera right? (shadow from shirt model right and from face on collar model right)

One light for the hair camera right behind model?

One light on the background

What I like is that on both sides of the model's face there is a bit of shadow, how is this achieved?

I like the position of the head where the right side of the model is in axis with the camera and hides the ear

What I have: 3 lights (Yongnuo flashes) , 2 white shoot thru umbrellas, 1 silver reflective umbrella, 1 softbox, 1 black/white background panel

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In reply to b4cktr4ck, 10 months ago

You haven't accounted for the addition light source in front (look at catch lights in eyes)

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kgbruce01 wrote:

You haven't accounted for the addition light source in front (look at catch lights in eyes)

clamshell?

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Looking at the catchlights, I see a broad softbox directly in front of the subject set high and a second softbox or reflector down low. Both are dead center on the subject. There might be a light hitting the seamless directly behind her, or it might be done PP.

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hotdog321 wrote:

Looking at the catchlights, I see a broad softbox directly in front of the subject set high and a second softbox or reflector down low. Both are dead center on the subject. There might be a light hitting the seamless directly behind her, or it might be done PP.

Maybe the top light is a beauty dish, but yes, I'd say clamshell dead center. And there's a hairlight, camera right.

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Oh yeah, I overlooked the hair light. Might be spill from the light in back, too.

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b4cktr4ck wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to take a photo with a similar result

what I can see:

One light camera left high (shadow of the collar left side of model)

One light (beauty dish?) front of model?

One light camera right? (shadow from shirt model right and from face on collar model right)

One light for the hair camera right behind model?

One light on the background

What I like is that on both sides of the model's face there is a bit of shadow, how is this achieved?

I like the position of the head where the right side of the model is in axis with the camera and hides the ear

What I have: 3 lights (Yongnuo flashes) , 2 white shoot thru umbrellas, 1 silver reflective umbrella, 1 softbox, 1 black/white background panel

Clamshell in the front of the subject (be it with a beauty dish, a softbox, or what ever, and probably a reflector)

Rim light on our right, that gets her shoulder and part of the hair lit.

Background light.

I think that is all. Dont see any more lights there.

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The pose is well done and does hide the right ear perfectly.  You can learn a lot about posing from this free video tutorial.  Watch it, wait a couple of days, then watch it again - you'll learn more fine details of posing the second time than the first.

Sekonic - Frank Dispensa - Classical Posing and Portrait Lighting

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b4cktr4ck wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to take a photo with a similar result

what I can see:

One light camera left high (shadow of the collar left side of model)

One light (beauty dish?) front of model?

One light camera right? (shadow from shirt model right and from face on collar model right)

One light for the hair camera right behind model?

One light on the background

What I like is that on both sides of the model's face there is a bit of shadow, how is this achieved?

I like the position of the head where the right side of the model is in axis with the camera and hides the ear

What I have: 3 lights (Yongnuo flashes) , 2 white shoot thru umbrellas, 1 silver reflective umbrella, 1 softbox, 1 black/white background panel

Im going down the beauty dish above camera, clamshell path. I think there is a good chance that the camera right hair light is doing double duty for the hair and background. I really like the lighting a lot..

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thanks all for the contributions. Will share my attempts soon

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You have too many lights.  There are likely 3 lights, maybe 4.  Main light is centered above face, probably a medium-ish box.  Then either a reflector or active fill below.  There is a very mild hair light, and a background light.  Fairly straight forward setup.

b4cktr4ck wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to take a photo with a similar result

what I can see:

One light camera left high (shadow of the collar left side of model)

One light (beauty dish?) front of model?

One light camera right? (shadow from shirt model right and from face on collar model right)

One light for the hair camera right behind model?

One light on the background

What I like is that on both sides of the model's face there is a bit of shadow, how is this achieved?

I like the position of the head where the right side of the model is in axis with the camera and hides the ear

What I have: 3 lights (Yongnuo flashes) , 2 white shoot thru umbrellas, 1 silver reflective umbrella, 1 softbox, 1 black/white background panel

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DecibelPhoto wrote:

You have too many lights. There are likely 3 lights, maybe 4. Main light is centered above face, probably a medium-ish box. Then either a reflector or active fill below. There is a very mild hair light, and a background light. Fairly straight forward setup.

yep makes sense in line with most of the people guessed.

Would it work to reproduce this setup using a clamshell with softbox up high and umbrella low?

For the hair light what's the best option? can a bare flash do the job?

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