I have a Canon T4i, but I'm thinking of getting a D7100. Need Help!

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I have a Canon T4i, but I'm thinking of getting a D7100. Need Help!
Jun 5, 2013

Hello all!

Yes, you've read that right. I've had quite a bit of fun shooting with my Canon T4i (And T3i before that) but I'm looking to maybe upgrade my camera and go with something that offers me more features. Specifically when it comes to getting the sharpest images I can. I've looked at Canon's next step up to my T4i which seems to be the Canon 7D (the 60D I think is too close with the T4i and I would therefor not consider it). However the Canon 7D seems to be somewhat...dated (3 1/2 years). Which would normally be fine except for the fact that I'm being constantly teased by the new Nikon D7100 which looks like an AMAZING camera itself! It has an awesome feature set that I'm sure would work for me rather well. The small buffer was worrisome at first for me but the more I think about it, I tend to shoot in a rather "Burst-Mode" anyways, setting my canon to multi-frame and firing 3-5 shots before recomposing and going again. I know that's not how everyone typically does it but it's just my method and it's worked well for me so far.

I know the other factor in this is lens that I've bought into. Well, I had tried many lenses with my canon rebel's and ended up with the kit 18-135mm IS STM (which hardly ever gets used) and the 15-85mm (which is always on and which I think is the greatest lens ever made! It's amazing!) So i'm not too invested in lenses and switching systems really doesn't bother me that much. Although I am wondering how nikons 16-85mm is? Anybody have any sort of mini-review they can give me on that? being the comparable Nikon version of the canon lens I love, I'd be very interested in what people think of it. It would probably be my main lens as well.

Third comes down to price. The D7100 sits at a very nice price in my opinion. There's "rumors" of the Canon 70D coming out soon maybe but even if it does I'm getting a bigger and bigger feeling that it'll be much more expensive than the D7100. So that's a big factor too.

I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who could give me some advice for the situation I'm in and let me know if the D7100 would be a good step up from shooting with my Canon Rebel? and how the Nikon 16-85mm lens is as well?

Thanks!

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4 weeks ago you bought the D5200, what happened.

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4 weeks ago you bought the D5200, what happened.

Well I was looking at it as a replacement to the T4i I had but ended up returning it as there really wasn't much difference between the two and I had just begun to look at the D7100 then but wanted to wait and see what other reviews came out first before really considering it.

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In reply to Smiller4128, Jun 5, 2013

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pixd90 wrote:

4 weeks ago you bought the D5200, what happened.

Well I was looking at it as a replacement to the T4i I had but ended up returning it as there really wasn't much difference between the two and I had just begun to look at the D7100 then but wanted to wait and see what other reviews came out first before really considering it.

IQ will be basically the same as the D5200 you had so the improvement over that will be features related, built in focus motor, and focus differences. Do any of the features really appeal to you vs the D5200?

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Smiller4128 wrote:

pixd90 wrote:

4 weeks ago you bought the D5200, what happened.

Well I was looking at it as a replacement to the T4i I had but ended up returning it as there really wasn't much difference between the two and I had just begun to look at the D7100 then but wanted to wait and see what other reviews came out first before really considering it.

IQ will be basically the same as the D5200 you had so the improvement over that will be features related, built in focus motor, and focus differences. Do any of the features really appeal to you vs the D5200?

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Several actually. Dual Card Slots, more AF points, Built-In Focus motor, I find the lack of an AA filter to be interesting as well, and of course more controls.

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Okay this is my first post (after reading quietly in the background) and I apologize for my english (I'm not a native speaker). I moved up from Canon T4i to Nikon D7100 - and yeah, my pictures are getting better. But I don't think that it's the reason because I switched the camera. The reason is, that I switched my lenses: From zoom to fixed focal length.

Here are my recent experiences:

- It's much easier to access all functions. After reading the camera guide I could change nearly every setting without using a menu. This is one real advantage because you can control the camera much faster.

- I like the bigger viewfinder. It's much easier for me now to see, if I hit the focus.

- I really like the big amount of auto-focus sensors. If you already used the 9 Sensors (which I did with my T4i) you will love the big range of auto-focus sensors.

- Using lenses with better apertues (I'm using the 35mm F1.8 as a standard lens, the AF 50mm F.14d for portraits and the Tamron 90mm VC 2.8 USD Macro) is the biggest advantage so far. And even Canon would have offer me such lenses. But I had to start from the beginning (after I've sold my lenses) and that's one reason why I was interested in the Nikon (Because it's the newest prosumer APS-C). I used the Canon 24-105 F4 IS and the 70-200 F4 and after on week with my new camera and new lenses I can tell you, that those old lenses just never quite fit into my way of photography. They produced really sharp pictures but I alread had problems with the noise at higher ISO.

- Noise: In my opinion I dont see a big advantage of the D7100 compared to the Canon. Maybe there is a better noise performance but I couldn't finde this in real life. But I have to mention: I'm not a pixel peeper.

My conclusion: I had to sell my lenses for Canon because they coulnd't make me happy. And after I've sold all lenses I thought: Why not look in neigbours garden? I lost 25 - 35 of my money (compared to the prices I paid for my Canon lenses and the body) and you should think about your glasses you got for Canon. If you got some really good lenses (... and my Canon lenses were good, but they would be better on a full-frame camera, which I can't afford), then stick with Canon.

But if you are willing to switch and if you would use those advantages I mentioned before, the Nikon will offer you a lot of fun. Oh and by the way: I agree with you, that Canon offers no real upgrade to the T4i. The 60D and 7D are a bit old fashioned. Comparing only the camera in this area (I mean 60D, 7D etc., not the profesionall cameras) Nikon is actual ahead. Compared to lenses I don't know, which one is really ahead. In my budget they are even (Because I'm not interested in spending over 2000$ in a lens).

Last but not least: Feel free to look in my clickr account (I've uploaded some macros): http://www.flickr.com/photos/34111854@N02/

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In reply to Smiller4128, Jun 5, 2013

Smiller4128 wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

Smiller4128 wrote:

pixd90 wrote:

4 weeks ago you bought the D5200, what happened.

Well I was looking at it as a replacement to the T4i I had but ended up returning it as there really wasn't much difference between the two and I had just begun to look at the D7100 then but wanted to wait and see what other reviews came out first before really considering it.

IQ will be basically the same as the D5200 you had so the improvement over that will be features related, built in focus motor, and focus differences. Do any of the features really appeal to you vs the D5200?

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Several actually. Dual Card Slots, more AF points, Built-In Focus motor, I find the lack of an AA filter to be interesting as well, and of course more controls.

Why don't you wait? This summer Canon will come out with a 70D and also the 7D is slated for replacement between now and a year. Nikon is busy refreshing its advanced DX cameras (new D7100, rumored D400 for the late summer), so Canon will not be far behind.

Waiting will save you on having to replace lenses.

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croveans wrote:

Okay this is my first post (after reading quietly in the background) and I apologize for my english (I'm not a native speaker). I moved up from Canon T4i to Nikon D7100 - and yeah, my pictures are getting better. But I don't think that it's the reason because I switched the camera. The reason is, that I switched my lenses: From zoom to fixed focal length.

Here are my recent experiences:

- It's much easier to access all functions. After reading the camera guide I could change nearly every setting without using a menu. This is one real advantage because you can control the camera much faster.

- I like the bigger viewfinder. It's much easier for me now to see, if I hit the focus.

- I really like the big amount of auto-focus sensors. If you already used the 9 Sensors (which I did with my T4i) you will love the big range of auto-focus sensors.

- Using lenses with better apertues (I'm using the 35mm F1.8 as a standard lens, the AF 50mm F.14d for portraits and the Tamron 90mm VC 2.8 USD Macro) is the biggest advantage so far. And even Canon would have offer me such lenses. But I had to start from the beginning (after I've sold my lenses) and that's one reason why I was interested in the Nikon (Because it's the newest prosumer APS-C). I used the Canon 24-105 F4 IS and the 70-200 F4 and after on week with my new camera and new lenses I can tell you, that those old lenses just never quite fit into my way of photography. They produced really sharp pictures but I alread had problems with the noise at higher ISO.

- Noise: In my opinion I dont see a big advantage of the D7100 compared to the Canon. Maybe there is a better noise performance but I couldn't finde this in real life. But I have to mention: I'm not a pixel peeper.

My conclusion: I had to sell my lenses for Canon because they coulnd't make me happy. And after I've sold all lenses I thought: Why not look in neigbours garden? I lost 25 - 35 of my money (compared to the prices I paid for my Canon lenses and the body) and you should think about your glasses you got for Canon. If you got some really good lenses (... and my Canon lenses were good, but they would be better on a full-frame camera, which I can't afford), then stick with Canon.

But if you are willing to switch and if you would use those advantages I mentioned before, the Nikon will offer you a lot of fun. Oh and by the way: I agree with you, that Canon offers no real upgrade to the T4i. The 60D and 7D are a bit old fashioned. Comparing only the camera in this area (I mean 60D, 7D etc., not the profesionall cameras) Nikon is actual ahead. Compared to lenses I don't know, which one is really ahead. In my budget they are even (Because I'm not interested in spending over 2000$ in a lens).

Last but not least: Feel free to look in my clickr account (I've uploaded some macros): http://www.flickr.com/photos/34111854@N02/

Thank you very much! That was quite helpful!

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The D7100 body certainly has more features than a Rebel body, as does a Canon 60D or 7D. You mention a desire for more "sharpness". You will need to print AT LEAST 13x19 and more likely 16x20 to see ANY appreciable increase in apparent sharpness of your print in going from an 18 to a 24 MP APSC camera at low ISOs. If you doubt this, download sample images from here or other test sites and print them. I have done this and was amazed at how little difference at the print level a substantial increase in MP actually showed. If you used the D5200 you have a good idea of the sharpness of the D7100.

You mention you love your 15-85 lens. The tests I have seen show it to be slightly better than the Nikon 16-85 and slightly more expensive so a change would result in a slight downgrade optically.

You are buying into a system and a company. At this time in the U.S. I think Canon is a much friendlier company toward the consumer than Nikon. Repairs on Nikon take 3 times as long to get back and cost twice as much as Canon per Roger at lensrentals. Nikon's policy of not selling parts to independent repair shops was enough to keep me from purchasing any more Nikons until (if) they change their policy. Canon seems to have avoided most of the quality control problems dogging Nikon, although to be fair the D7100 seems to be fairly trouble free compared to other recent Nikon cameras.

Since you seem to reasonably happy with your Rebel and 15-85 lens, I would recommend that you wait a few months to see what new Canon products are released, you have a more than adequate system to use in the meantime.

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Can you post some pictures/examples of where the Canon 4ti & 15-85 are not giving you enough sharpness?  If so, some folks here might be able to more specifically offer advice for your specific application.  Otherwise, like others have stated, I'm doubting switching to the D7100 + 16-85 is going to magically give you sharper photos.

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Hi,

See here for a review :

http://www.bythom.com/Nikkor16-85lensreview.htm

Good luck with your choice.
Greetings,
Marc

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