40-150 or 75-300 Oly lens?

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n3eg
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40-150 or 75-300 Oly lens?
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I'm planning a micro four thirds camera purchase before the end of summer, and will be deciding between the new JK Kodak S1 (only if it has IBIS) and the Olympus E-PL5.  I researched my previous bridge camera photo EXIF data for focal lengths, and found a significant number (about a third) of my telephoto shots fell in the equivalent 42-75mm lens gap between the kit 14-42 and the 75-300.  Of the remainder, almost all were at the far long end (216mm M43 equivalent on one bridge and 420mm on the other.)

My question:  How many of you would (or do) miss shots / crop extensively / become annoyed with the 14-42 and 75 (or 100) - 300 combination?

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In reply to n3eg, 11 months ago

The 40-150 is tiny compared to the 75-300 and I don't think you can compare as they tend to serve different purposes. I do have the 40-150 and it fits in my pocket pretty easily so that would be my first choice.

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In reply to FredB, 11 months ago

Who knows. You might get more peeved not having the range between 150-300 mm. If money is not the issue, spend the $549 for the 75-300.

The 40-150mm is often marked down as low as $99 new, and is available most of the time as a $179 refurb. I got mine new for $109 for example. Wait for a future sale and you can have both zooms.

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In reply to FredB, 11 months ago

FredB wrote:

The 40-150 is tiny compared to the 75-300 and I don't think you can compare as they tend to serve different purposes. I do have the 40-150 and it fits in my pocket pretty easily so that would be my first choice.

Agree. 40- 150 ( equiv 80 - 300MM)
Very small  ; my "Walking Around" lens
I also have the 100-300 ( 200-600 equiv) but universally use it for sunsets , lunar photography and the ilk.

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I use the 14-150 as my walking around lens and the 75-300 for distant animals. Also use the 12-50 for bad weather and macro.

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Or 45-150mm?
In reply to n3eg, 11 months ago

n3eg wrote: ..... My question:  How many of you would (or do) miss shots / crop extensively / become annoyed with the 14-42 and 75 (or 100) - 300 combination?

The 42mm to 75mm gap will annoy. All for the maybe not so often used 150mm to 300mm range. The 75-300mm lens is one you might buy if a bird watcher or about to do an African wildlife safari.

In my case with E-PL5 the Panasonic 45-150mm made more sense as the unswitched OIS can be used via the E-PL5 menus (it is better built with metal mount and comes with a lens hood).

This gives a nice stabilised preview and makes life easier, especially when the 2x digital teleconverter is used to get the 300mm tele effect. OK that's 4MP interpolated to 16MP but is fine for picking off details for a screen display or print size up to maybe 8x10 inches.

More E-PL5 info found via my pages .

Regards..... Guy

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I have both kit lenses and also 75-300 lens. I was very surprised by how heavy the 75-300mm lens was. But it's great lens for taking the pictures of the birds.

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I have both and seem never to bring the 40-150. 75-300 is not just a bird lens and more useful than people think.

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baxters wrote:

Who knows. You might get more peeved not having the range between 150-300 mm. If money is not the issue, spend the $549 for the 75-300.

The 40-150mm is often marked down as low as $99 new, and is available most of the time as a $179 refurb. I got mine new for $109 for example. Wait for a future sale and you can have both zooms.

I like that idea - I could always leave one at home.  I'll have to do more Ebaying though to get both.

Also, seeing the latest on M43 rumors showing the JK Kodak S1 with an Oly lens, it seems like the S1 will have IBIS.  Does not look like a repackaged Oly camera though.

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In reply to n3eg, 11 months ago

The 40-150 has been as low as $99, and probably will be again.  I like to pair mine w a closeup lens for bugs and flowers

But it doesn't have enough reach for birding

I have the 100-300, because I was able to get it for much less than the 75-300 at the time, but that 25mm difference at the short end limits the usefulness of the 100-300.

I think the gap between 50 and 75 is not that significant, between 50 and 100 it is definitely noticeable.

But the 40-150 is small, light, and pairs well w the 12-50, and I'm more likely to take that.

I only take the 100-300 when I'm expecting birds or otherwise need the long reach.  (OK recently got a pair of extension tubes, so I can now hunt butterflies as well w the 100-300)

btw, coming from E-520 w 12-60 and 70-300.  Those two lenses covered most of my needs except for low light.  My 4/3 40-150 only collected dust once I got the 70-300.  But today, my m43 40-150 gets more use than the 100-300, due to its small size and fitting my closeup filter.

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I took this with 40-150mm @ 150mm
In reply to baxters, 11 months ago

40-150mm, f8, ISO800, 1/3200 of a shutter.  Why didn't I go down to ISO200 for a slower shutter?  It seemed like I was getting camera shake even at that speed.  I haven't investigated why yet as I just started using the $99 lens.

Regardless of my poor settings, you can see the camera and lens did a good job for a guy who's never photographed the moon before.  16mp cropped:

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In reply to Art_P, 11 months ago

The 100-300 is handy for birds, but also handy for flowers and other small subjects.  Stand back and zoom in.

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Since the 40-150mm is probably sharper at the long end than the 75-300mm lens, it would be interesting to compare a a native 300mm shot of the longer lens with a 150mm shot of the first lens zoomed in to 300mm with the digital teleconverter of the new Oly cams. I can't do that by myself since I neither own the 75-300 nor one of the cameras with new sensor and DTC.

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toporossa wrote:

Since the 40-150mm is probably sharper at the long end than the 75-300mm lens, it would be interesting to compare a a native 300mm shot of the longer lens with a 150mm shot of the first lens zoomed in to 300mm with the digital teleconverter of the new Oly cams. I can't do that by myself since I neither own the 75-300 nor one of the cameras with new sensor and DTC.

I did something like that with my E-PL5 and 45-150mm at 150mm and 2x on. After careful fiddling it was better to take the RAW file which was 1x size and use that cropped 2x to give a slightly better result than the 2x DTC jpeg.

But whatever the way, the 2x crop or the 2x DTC image is always derived from 4MP worth of pixels so is limited to screen display or print size approx 8x10 inches or smaller. So limiting to 150mm and then 2x crop or 2x DTC certainly works for non-critical use of the image, saves carrying the bigger and more expensive tele (that goes to 300mm) for only casual shots needed occasionally at the "300mm" setting.

If continually chasing birdlife or African wildlife, then the longer the tele the better, and it sure makes it way nicer to use with preview stabilisation. Such as half press IBIS on the E-M5 (and the incoming E-P5) or use the E-PL5/E-PM2 (and the incoming E-P5) way of using switched or unswitched OIS on the Panasonic lenses for a stabilised view without having to half press. Naturally switched OIS on E-M5 allows a stabilised preview.

Most times though with extreme tele it is the distance involved which is the limiting factor to image quality, short distances fine, long distance then heat bubbles in the air make it lousy, unless shooting when it's cool.

Regards.... Guy

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In reply to LMNCT, 11 months ago

If I don't need the reach, the 40-150 is a lot more convenient and pocket friendly.

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In reply to Guy Parsons, 11 months ago

Guy Parsons wrote:

toporossa wrote:

Since the 40-150mm is probably sharper at the long end than the 75-300mm lens, it would be interesting to compare a a native 300mm shot of the longer lens with a 150mm shot of the first lens zoomed in to 300mm with the digital teleconverter of the new Oly cams. I can't do that by myself since I neither own the 75-300 nor one of the cameras with new sensor and DTC.

I did something like that with my E-PL5 and 45-150mm at 150mm and 2x on. After careful fiddling it was better to take the RAW file which was 1x size and use that cropped 2x to give a slightly better result than the 2x DTC jpeg.

Interesting, (OK I don't have the 70-300 to compare) but I had done a bit of testing, though with the EM5 (Digital 2X vs cropping the RAW) and the 40-150 and always was very impressed with the outcome of the OOC JPEG from the camera.

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