about new XF55/200: I've seen only now

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In reply to Al Valentino, May 24, 2013

My barrel tends to be a scratch magnet. I got over it after a while. Now I don't even see em building up, but if they were on a black anodized metal barrel; I'd be scribbling that black sharpie over those silver scratches all day long and not taking pic's!.

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In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

You make some random call based on a photo, and then loose the plot on DPR

There are more important things in life to worry about

Just MHO - you're quite free to worry abut what ever you like of course

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Re: about new XF55/200: I've seen only now
In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

I share with you what MikeS wrote in response to me in another forum (fuji x forum):

"1) honest - to save weight and expense (as you have added just now, mass is an enemy of speed and acceleration)
2) If made of metal it might have had unacceptable thermal expansion characteristics that would not permit critical alignment for focusing or have created other alignment problems with the particular mechanical/optic design they selected.
3) If made thin enough not to add 200g of weight, it might be prone to impact damage, whereas a good industrial polymer material is stronger for this application.
Implied in the large extension of this lens would have been the need for a really long lens barrel if the extension type design had not been chosen. I do not think we would have wanted to store or carry such a monster. I suppose if I pondered some more another point would come to mind, but as a general principle I will rely on Fujifilm engineers to do design a stable and long lived product.
One thing I know is plastics have come a long way in the past twenty years, but in poplar culture we tend to have experiences with plastics that are miss-applied, of outright poor quality or even designed without consideration to longevity. So we tend to feel anything made of plastic is cheap and short lived. In their place, plastics are a very desirable choice. In fact one can over do it, witness this example: Nylon rollers, simple old fashioned nylon, will wear out stainless steel guide track, not the other way around."

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Are the lens elements also plastic?
In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

Many if not all starter lenses are plastic these days, I'm talking about the lens elements themselves.

Quote of the day from a Leica M owner, when asked about the Leica D-Lux:

"That's not a Leica, it's Plastica."

- Sarcastic, tragic and also true.

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PeterPrism wrote:

"The extending section is made from high-quality plastic" ?!?

source DPR: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-55-200-3p5-4p8/2

Why this damned sort of "high-qualityPLASTIC, don't tell me for the WEIGHT; FUJI you betray my deep faith in your creed.

See the horrible fusion line under my orange written, only to think of touching it with the hands I'm already sick...

damn lightweight and cheap plastic, who invented to  you?

Peter,

Times have changed!!!

Metal lenses were from a different era.

Pentax Spotmatic (Yr 1968) and  GF3 with SUN Zoom lens (Yr 1969)

Cheers,

Luego

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Re: Are the lens elements also plastic?
In reply to calterg, May 24, 2013

calterg wrote:

Many if not all starter lenses are plastic these days, I'm talking about the lens elements themselves.

Quote of the day from a Leica M owner, when asked about the Leica D-Lux:

"That's not a Leica, it's Plastica."

- Sarcastic, tragic and also true.

I decided to buy the lens, tallow into two pieces and seeing if the lenses are made of glass, then I'll let you know!

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In reply to Luego, May 24, 2013

Peter,

Times have changed!!!

Metal lenses were from a different era.

Pentax Spotmatic (Yr 1968) and  GF3 with SUN Zoom lens (Yr 1969)

Cheers,

Luego

I'm tragically obsolete ... (love this pic and also the old book). Cheers!

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Re: Are the lens elements also plastic?
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Thanks for the effort! I await your answer!

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calterg wrote:

Thanks for the effort! I await your answer!

I'm going to sharpen the saw.

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Re: about new XF55/200: I've seen only now
In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

Thanks Peter, I'm sure you'll be happy with your XF55 and I'm happy with my fixed prime...:-)

X100LE and Pentax Spotmatic with Super Takumar 35mm

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PS. In the meantime, replaced X100LE with X100S and I'm "super-happy" now...:-)

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In reply to Luego, May 24, 2013

GREAT PIC! and now, just for you (done in this moment) my Super family

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PeterPrism wrote:

"The extending section is made from high-quality plastic" ?!?

source DPR: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilm-55-200-3p5-4p8/2

Why this damned sort of "high-qualityPLASTIC, don't tell me for the WEIGHT; FUJI you betray my deep faith in your creed.

See the horrible fusion line under my orange written, only to think of touching it with the hands I'm already sick...

damn lightweight and cheap plastic, who invented to  you?

Plastic looks ugly, no question about it. But did you expect a $799 55-200 zoom lens to be all metal and IF???

I used to have Canon 17-55/2.8 which was almost all plastic but IQ was better than 17-40 L and 24-105 L lenses.

Considering all other Fuji lenses to date, I think this 55-200 will deliver excellently.

C'mon Peter, don't look at the lens, take pictures with it :)) Until Fuji or Zeiss come up with 135/2.5 prime lens!

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In reply to vkphoto, May 24, 2013

Considering all other Fuji lenses to date, I think this 55-200 will deliver excellently.

... and I agree 100%. Cheers!

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PeterPrism wrote:

GREAT PIC! and now, just for you (done in this moment) my Super family

Great couple...goes with the artwork...:-D

Cheers,

Luego

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In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

DPR's photo is of a pre-production copy of the 55-200; why not wait for the production version to see if the fusion line is visible?

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Jim King wrote:

DPR's photo is of a pre-production copy of the 55-200; why not wait for the production version to see if the fusion line is visible?

I'm preparing the sandpaper to fix the problem...

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Mark, Definitely going to be a great product but I am a HUGE fetish and that's why I bought a XPro1; Leica does not make these slips...

Sure Leica doesn't, but look at the difference in price tag. You can't really compare the two, there are in different leagues. It's kinda like comparing a Rolex to a Timex. The fuji really offers a lot for the money and is the better price/performance buy.

With that said engineering composites are very strong, and I wouldn't actually call it a slip. I have a 17-50/2.8 Tamron on my desk that took a 5 foot fall onto concrete. It cracked the front element. The lens stayed in one piece, and mechanically it works flawlessly, zooms, focuses and everything.

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oklaphotog wrote:

PeterPrism wrote:

Mark, Definitely going to be a great product but I am a HUGE fetish and that's why I bought a XPro1; Leica does not make these slips...

Sure Leica doesn't, but look at the difference in price tag. You can't really compare the two, there are in different leagues. It's kinda like comparing a Rolex to a Timex. The fuji really offers a lot for the money and is the better price/performance buy.

With that said engineering composites are very strong, and I wouldn't actually call it a slip. I have a 17-50/2.8 Tamron on my desk that took a 5 foot fall onto concrete. It cracked the front element. The lens stayed in one piece, and mechanically it works flawlessly, zooms, focuses and everything.

Ok i understood that in this millenium the plastic can be a good thing. Thanks for the lesson 

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In reply to PeterPrism, May 24, 2013

Similar seam present on 18-55. So what?

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