Leica Mini M

Started May 23, 2013 | Discussions
Toccata47
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Doubt it is literally "Mini"
In reply to Jim Radcliffe, May 24, 2013

More marketing effort than is typical for a panasonic rebadged release, but significantly less than any M branded camera or lens. Will they ride the wave of M240 enthusiasm and offer a lower priced M to those that just can't stretch quite so far, perhaps undercutting sales of their core product?

The thing that really stands out to me in these speculation threads is the number of people that seem excited about an M with an evf in place of a rangefinder. I wonder if people think this will be a significant cost savings, or if they actually prefer to use an evf. I've long thought the RF was the only reason to use an M. Perhaps evf's really are that good now?

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How much will it cost with a neck strap? :))))
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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

Anything other than a digital Leica CL will be a disappointment.

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In reply to markg26, May 24, 2013

markg26 wrote:

Anything other than a digital Leica CL will be a disappointment.

I totally agree...  there are many photographers who would be interested in such a camera.  It would need to accept ALL the M lenses.. not just two or three lenses designed just for that specific camera.

Some would say that such a camera would cut into the sales of the M but I really don't think so.. the resulting sale of the glass should offset that (while driving up the used M lens prices as well)..

Produced properly and that does not mean crippling the camera, it would be a stepping stone to an M purchase.  Why Leica has not done this in the past instead of re-branding Panasonic cameras is a mystery to me.

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

Ray1684 wrote:

http://us.leica-camera.com/news/new_products/Mini%20M/

Just noticed this post from Leica, comments?

Doesn't look like much but it does have the all important red dot!

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In reply to Hugo808, May 24, 2013

I want this to be a cut price M240 without the RF but the more I think about it the more I think it will end up being a retake on the digilux 2 concept. Basically an X2 with a short range zoom lens and one or two other neat features.

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In reply to NJHr, May 24, 2013

An updated D2 would be great.  I still use mine, but the sensor and LCD/EVF are a little "long in the tooth".

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

Ray1684 wrote:

http://us.leica-camera.com/news/new_products/Mini%20M/

Just noticed this post from Leica, comments?

Greetings!

I presume an APS-C sized sensor with M-mount.

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Re: I have the FIRST leaked comparison image of the "Mini M"!!
In reply to RoelHendrickx, May 24, 2013

Roel, I am sure this is what you meant!...

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In reply to BSweeney, May 24, 2013

BSweeney wrote:

They could do a full-frame mirrorless camera that uses the M-Mount and does not have the RF/optical viewfinder.

OR They could do a Digital Leica CL. I can dream.

Seems like a possibility, but a MF camera with an EVF seems all but DOA against the presumed Sony NEX FF system that would have the AF option as well and would be able to use Leica lenses with minimal compromises.

Sadly, I doubt that Leica ultimately has the resources or the stomach to invest into a whole new independent line of 35mm AF mirrorless lenses. Although I hope that I am wrong because someone will be very successful with that. At this point Sony+Zeiss most likely.

Mini M being an equivalent of RX1 seems more likely.

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

I look forward to seeing what they announce!

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

I mean whatever will be announced will not be available until 2015 anyway, so I am not paying any attention until summer of 2014!

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

Remember the point n shoot Leica mini 35mm f2.8 and the Leica mini zoom 35-70mm? The prices1 and x2 are the digital version of the prime lens mini, I think the digital version oftheleica mini zoom is coming. It seems both Zeiss and Leica are fond of 35-70mm as the top notch zoom, with max aperture to be around f4. With the second tier zoom to be 24-85.

I hope its not full frame. That would be expensive. I would be happy enough with aps c sensor, just like the x2. I won't care what Sony is going to offer, I have Sony. Dslr and contax Zeiss as well as Sony Zeiss. I know how far it can be and the price when it comes close to lLeica.

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In reply to Ray1684, May 24, 2013

I'd like it to be exactly the same as the M240, but with secure strap lugs and a smaller price tag.

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In reply to jase, May 25, 2013

I'm only interested if it does have a rangefinder. Otherwise why spend the extra on a Leica? To me, the point of a Leica IS the rangefinder mechanism and the simplicty, otherwise there are million other bodies that you can mount m lenses on. I'd love this if it's under 3k. DOesn't need to be full frame either. Having shot with an R-D1 for years, it's a little awkward, but worth it.

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In reply to brudy, May 25, 2013

brudy wrote:

I'm only interested if it does have a rangefinder. Otherwise why spend the extra on a Leica?

Because of the potential for mirrorless Leica to be fullframe.

To me, the point of a Leica IS the rangefinder mechanism and the simplicty, otherwise there are million other bodies that you can mount m lenses on.

None of those other bodies (eg GXR, NEX, XE1, u4/3) has a fullframe sensor. It's expensive and excessive to pay $1-3k on a Leica lens and then crop out half the image circle.

Leica users who want the rangefinder experience are currently very well served with the M240.

A mirrorless-M would expand the market to reach a different set of buyers.

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In reply to Ray1684, May 25, 2013

Leica: make it FF please!

Built-in electronic viewfinder would be nice too.

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In reply to starwolfy, May 25, 2013

starwolfy wrote:

Spendthrift wrote:

If one considers that Sony is supposedly coming out with a FF Nex, it would make sense that Leica tries to circumvent the exodus of Leica glass from Leica bodies by coming out with its own mirrorless, EVF only, less expensive FF body to retain or expand its user base.

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True...and they could make scale savings if they use their current FF sensor. Si I guess this is the most "long term" vision they should have.

Risk that against the possible loss of potential sales of the M 240?

Could not make it too good or they might kill their golden goose.  So might they deliberately "cripple" such a beast?  Surely not Leica ...

Take the ovf out completely and replace it with an evf - crippled enough?  Sell a squillion for sure ...

Leave the red dot off and M 240 purchasers will remain happy.

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