Great in all circumstances

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inukshuk Junior Member • Posts: 30
Great in all circumstances
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The market of camera today, like in many other tech department, are creating many useless needs and the last compact camera (HX50V, TZ40) are probably the best example.

20M pixels, 30x zoom in a so compact format, it's more a technical performance than a consumer need.

Who ask for 20M pixels, 30x zoom, WiFi, NFC, touchscreen for a compact travel camera (GPS can be good)? But some of you ask for RAW, too bad for this time.

I was a little bit sceptic about image quality and performance, but finally this camera is a all around camera for almost all my needs.

Photo are great, video is amazing, fast reaction and the manual exposure can help in low light situation, PASM is big step forward, manual focus is something I use on my 7D, but to have it on the HX50V it's a great feature.

I'm not professional, so my experience of shooting style may vary from your level and kind of photographer. If you looking for a compact camera, this one is simply the best camera I own, after the 7D of course. I make this review because I'm waiting for opinion, I finally buy the HX50V instead the TZ40, I hope this help in your choice.

Try it and wait for official DPreview review.

The real down side I found it's the price.

Sorry for my english.

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DMC-TZ7 - EOS7D - DSC-HX50V

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX50V
20 megapixels • 3 screen • 24 – 720 mm (30×)
Announced: Apr 24, 2013
inukshuk's score
4.5
Average community score
4.0
bad for good for
Kids / pets
great
Action / sports
great
Landscapes / scenery
excellent
Portraits
excellent
Low light (without flash)
great
Flash photography (social)
great
Studio / still life
excellent
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Marti58
Marti58 MOD Forum Pro • Posts: 19,988
For me its not clear

if you own the camera already, if so can you please post some samples.

*I make this review because I'm waiting for opinion, I finally buy the HX50V instead the TZ40, I hope this help in your choice.*

maybe i read above wrong ?

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inukshuk OP Junior Member • Posts: 30
Re: For me its not clear

Hi,

Now I own the HX50V, but before making my decison, I'm waiting for some user reviews here. Some user already own the HX50V, but nobody want to review the camera.

I will post some pics here

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Re: For me its not clear

inukshuk wrote:

Hi,

Now I own the HX50V, but before making my decison, I'm waiting for some user reviews here. Some user already own the HX50V, but nobody want to review the camera.

well to make a decision you need to like it, i dont think it matters what others think about it

I will post some pics here

looking forwards to your pictures.

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Moef Regular Member • Posts: 158
Re: For me its not clear

I would also love to see some photos. Especially low light indoor photos, or night photos. ISO 800, 1600 would be great. All these small sensor cams produce some pretty good photos in sun light. But really struggle under low light conditions.

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Enir4 Senior Member • Posts: 2,359
Re: For me its not clear
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MickTarheel Regular Member • Posts: 108
Re: For me its not clear

You mind snapping one in Auto mode? Look forward to your photos..

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Re: For me its not clear

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ? ISO400 ...hmm what should i say.

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Enir4 Senior Member • Posts: 2,359
Re: For me its not clear

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

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Re: For me its not clear

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

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Enir4 Senior Member • Posts: 2,359
Re: For me its not clear

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

I saw another portrait shot at 200 ISO. Same smear.

Enrique

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Re: For me its not clear

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

I saw another portrait shot at 200 ISO. Same smear.

Enrique

not what the OP stated from these samples *Great in all circumstances*

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jonrobertp Forum Pro • Posts: 12,489
Error...

It is an error to look at one sample at 100% and make conclusions.  Check the detailed review at CNET australia...lots of real samples there...at every iso.  I've downloaded and checked at large screen (24") size, and it is really very impressive.

To make judgements at 100% from a hi res small size sensor...., well I won't say that is ___, but really, that is a very amateurish way to look at modern images from modern cams.

And yes, you can take that to the bank. 

I don't own the 50V, but I'm planning to .

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Re: Error...
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what does 100% pixel peeping prove???  Please, comparing cameras in this class, and always understanding its limitations. I'd reckon an 8x10 would still look good.

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jonrobertp Forum Pro • Posts: 12,489
How about the 5D original then if PP'ing is your thing ?

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

I saw another portrait shot at 200 ISO. Same smear.

Enrique

Enrique...maybe you should then only stick to large sensor low meg bodies...maybe like the original Canon 5D.   That way you could be happy at 100%....which most of us no longer use to determine the final usefulness of a unit.

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Re: How about the 5D original then if PP'ing is your thing ?

jonrobertp wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

I saw another portrait shot at 200 ISO. Same smear.

Enrique

Enrique...maybe you should then only stick to large sensor low meg bodies...maybe like the original Canon 5D.   That way you could be happy at 100%....which most of us no longer use to determine the final usefulness of a unit.

I judge all camera im looking at on 50% image size,, i never base my thoughts on one image, instead i use various resources.

i´ve seen base ISO shots in good conditions that already show spurs of.

I shoot FF DX CX M4/3 and several small or smaller censored cameras, my 50% views are always based with cameras the same size.

if one states in *great in all circumstances* that means to me ISO values up to lets say at least ISO400 for tiny sensor cameras.

lets hope the OP is going to provide a wide range of shots.

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Re: How about the 5D original then if PP'ing is your thing ?

jonrobertp wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Marti58 wrote:

Enir4 wrote:

Hi Marti,

I found this: http://mos.techradar.com/art/cameras/Sony/HX50/Sample%20Images/DSC00163a.jpg

Enrique

Hi Enrique, did you look at 100% ?

I'm afraid I did...

Enrique

ISO400.... not for me enough said.

I saw another portrait shot at 200 ISO. Same smear.

Enrique

Enrique...maybe you should then only stick to large sensor low meg bodies...maybe like the original Canon 5D.   That way you could be happy at 100%....which most of us no longer use to determine the final usefulness of a unit.

This is the portrait I mentioned, taken at 200 ISO. As with the other portrait I posted, there is no need to pixel peep to see the smearing, which Marti and I find unacceptable *for us*. Personal stuff, subjective. The objective thing is that the smearing does exist. I don't even know if this semearing, produced in all likelyhood by NR, could be improved setting NR to low or to none, I don't know if the HX50 offers this possibility in settings.
As for your "big sensor low meg bodies", with the very high megapixels of the NEX 7, RX1 and Nikon D800 you can enlarge and crop to your heart's content. It is not mainly a matter of the derogatively intended "pixel peeping", but sheer cropping ability. Besides, some do like pixel peeping, and why not.
As for me, with 1/1.7 sensors I had results I am reasonably happy with. It is the 1/2.3 sensors and smaller that show this smearing due to NR that I don't care for, although others don't seem to mind. Again, it is there, and whether one likes it or not is subjective.

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John McCormack Veteran Member • Posts: 5,034
Samples at Imaging Rescource.com.

Samples posted at Imaging-resource.com. They don't look great to me.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-hx50v/sony-hx50vA7.HTM

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ncsakany Senior Member • Posts: 1,652
That's a rather broad statement
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Even at lower ISOs, even at 25% image size I can still detect loss of detail due to smearing. I really fail to see the logic of such high MP on tiny sensors, I'd rather they dropped it to 10MP and enlarged the photosites. Too bad, it's such a nicely spec'd camera otherwise.

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jonrobertp Forum Pro • Posts: 12,489
50V vs Can260 @1600
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download the samples from IR at 1600iso...size them both the same size on a 24" monitor...and the Sony has more color depth and more contrast.   Just slightly better than the Canon.

That's as good as it gets for a long zoom pocket cam, guys.  Don't like it ?  fine, go with your larger heavier units.

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