The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

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Smiller4128 Regular Member • Posts: 452
The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

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OysteinNL Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...
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I had a 18-70 which has a metal mount.
These you can find relatively cheap (second hand) ... IQ is quite good.

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KennyXL Contributing Member • Posts: 783
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...
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Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

It sounds like you have an issue with the lens, not the D5200.  A D5200 does not dictate whether you must use a metal or plastic lens mount.  Your budget does that.  That being said, I did a quick search on eBay and found a few metal lens mounts.  I don't know if every lens has unique locations for their screws, but if they don't (i.e. the locations of the screws are in standardized locations), then perhaps you can buy one of those $15 and just replace the plastic lens mount with a metal one.  If they aren't in standardized locations, you're handy, and feeling a bit experimental, then perhaps you can drill those holes yourself.  It seems like a relatively cheap and interesting afternoon project.

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DavidPonting Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

At least one of those "Canon"s should read Nikon...

You can get a refurbished/secondhand 24-85 non-VR for very little, and a secondhand 16-85 for I would expect (not being in the US) $400ish, or the very sharp, but non-VR 18-70 for about the same as the old 24-85 (£150-£200 here).

Others will comment on mount durability, but I can add that I've taken a 28-200G, with a plastic mount, mountaineering for a couple of years and not broken it yet, despite the occasional clash with a boulder!

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blue_cheese Senior Member • Posts: 1,722
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...
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Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

So... you would rather have the cheap kit lens stay intact and tear the mount off the plastic attachments in the body?

mosswings Veteran Member • Posts: 7,511
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

Fear not.  I have taken my 18-105 on many trips into sketchy areas - cities, towns, backcountry, safaris - and have not babied it. It has not failed, even though it's gotten knocked about through thousands of images.  This is a pretty rugged lens even with its plastic mount.

I will say that while I do carry my camera and lens exposed a lot, I tend to use the Cinch/sling style carry that tucks the camera in and down against my lower back, when I'm walking:

http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/2012/02/luma-labs-cinch-review/

You can emulate this commercial product (since updated) by using the left strap lug and a tripod plate with a strap attach point with your existing neck strap.  Not as smooth, but extremely effective and your camera almost never flaps and knocks about.  Plus your neck is spared the pain of supporting your equipment, and the straps stay clear of your grip hand.

Also, when traveling in really sketchy territory, I treat my equipment with the respect it deserves and keep it at the ready in a waistbag until I'm ready to shoot.  There's not too much lost in the opportunity with a properly designed waist/shoulder bag...Zip, it's out, zip, it's in and protected. Something with a top zip like a ThinkTank ChangeUp or SubUrban Disguise, or a Tamrac Velocity work well.  Messenger bags don't work as well because the flap opens up the wrong way for quick access.

Pro equipment is heavy metal because pros knock their equipment about a lot.  But pros are also shooting with full metal camera bodies as well...remember, it's better for your lens' plastic mount to snap off with a really hard knock than your plastic mirror box - on which your lens is mounted - to break instead.  It's relatively easy to replace the lens' mount; not so much the mirror box.  Both would have to go in for realignment and a thorough check after such an incident, in any case.

Save the metal mounts for the heavier lenses.  That's why they have them and the lighter lenses don't.

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io_bg Regular Member • Posts: 193
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

I've had the 18-105mm for almost 2 years and it's still going strong.

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toomanycanons Forum Pro • Posts: 10,757
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

Don't worry about it.  Or be scared to death about it, your choice.  In the meantime I've been using my 18-105 "plastic mount" lens for two years under all conditions and...wait for it...never broke it!

mistermejia Senior Member • Posts: 3,340
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

You don't have to spend $1300 for the kick ass Nikon 17-55.  If you are interested i can sell it to you for $800.  Let me know.

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Petroglyph Senior Member • Posts: 4,981
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest

Canon makes one invest in lenses for D5200?

quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what

I thought Canon made one invest more but they have more options for less money?  Yep, I wont argue with the expense being high regardless.

it is.

I'd say go with the 16-85 unless you have primarily low-light applications.

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GerardHaines Regular Member • Posts: 496
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Now that we've established that it's not the D5200 that you're disagreeable with, but the cheaper plastic kit lens mounts...my 18-55mm has been on winter camping trips, multiple canoe trips in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness complete with portages, backpacking trips, etc. and the lens has held up admirably the past 14 months.  Unless you're some sort of evolutionary throwback without opposable thumbs, I wouldn't worry too much about the lens if you take reasonable care of it.

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nfpotter Veteran Member • Posts: 4,080
Plastic is fine...

Just don't pick your camera up by the lens, and don't bash into anything!

toomanycanons Forum Pro • Posts: 10,757
Re: Plastic is fine...

nfpotter wrote:

Just don't pick your camera up by the lens, and don't bash into anything!

"The only thing we have to fear is...fear of plastic itself."

Smiller4128 OP Regular Member • Posts: 452
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Petroglyph wrote:

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest

Canon makes one invest in lenses for D5200?

Yeah My bad, I meant Nikon

quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what

I thought Canon made one invest more but they have more options for less money?  Yep, I wont argue with the expense being high regardless.

it is.

I'd say go with the 16-85 unless you have primarily low-light applications.

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Shunda77 Senior Member • Posts: 1,866
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

As far as plastic mount Nikon lenses go, there are only 3 that are commonly used that might break: the 18-55 kit, the 55-200 kit, and the 18-105kit.

Even the 55-300vr has a metal mount and it certainly isn't expensive.

If the lens is light weight, plastic is fine.

Anfy
Anfy Veteran Member • Posts: 3,411
Personally...

...the only thing I dislike about the D5200 is that AF does not work with those oldelish and great, metal AF and AF-D lenses Nikon still makes.

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Bill Eadie Regular Member • Posts: 379
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

We're assuming the plastic mount is weaker than the metal mount. Does anyone know if this is true?

It could be the plastic mount is cheaper to make but it's just as strong or even stronger than the metal mount.

demarren 123 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,616
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

Smiller4128 wrote:

I'm loving my D5200, but have recently read about the 18-105mm lens I have for it being a plastic mount and subsequently a lot of people seem to have broken theirs at one point or another. Now I'm scared to death to use it! So I began looking at some other options for lenses with a metal mount and it seems Canon makes you invest quite a bit of money for a medium zoom lens with metal
Mounts. The first lens up is the AF-S 24-85mm at $600, then the 16-85mm at $630, and an 18-200mm at $800, and finally the 17-55mm at $1300...I only wish there were more options for less money like Canon seems to have, but I suppose it is what it is.

I have 18-70 with is metal all my other lenses are plastic never got a problems.

I agree canon have more options but the cheap ones are plastic to.

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Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

If you were to disassemble your D5200, you would find that the metal  lens mounting flange on the camera is just screwed into a plastic mirror box. This is true for all Nikon DSLRs until you reach the D800 level camera where the metal lens flange is actually screwed into the metal body of the camera. Drop your camera on it';s lens,  and chances are that plastic mirror box will be broken and need to be replaced. OTOH, if the plastic mount on the lens breaks, you just pop on another lens and you are back in business! As they say, a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link and that weak link is the plastic mirror box compared to a lens with a metal mount. Worrying about the plastic mount of some Nikon lenses is just silly IMO, when the mount can be replaced cheaply and  easily if broken, while the plastic mirror box replacement will be a trip to Nikon repair and cost you almost as much as a new D5200 to fix it! So stop worrying so much, or just get a D800!

BTW, the 18-105mm is a very nice lens optically and has served me well in the  100 degree heat of Arizona and the freezing  cold of a  Pacific Northwest winter.

Here are some of my shots taken with the plastic fantastic 18-105mm Nikkor "kit"  lens:

- Jon

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Smiller4128 OP Regular Member • Posts: 452
Re: The only thing I dislike about the Nikon D5200 are the plastic mount lenses...

jonikon wrote:

If you were to disassemble your D5200, you would find that the metal  lens mounting flange on the camera is just screwed into a plastic mirror box. This is true for all Nikon DSLRs until you reach the D800 level camera where the metal lens flange is actually screwed into the metal body of the camera. Drop your camera on it';s lens,  and chances are that plastic mirror box will be broken and need to be replaced. OTOH, if the plastic mount on the lens breaks, you just pop on another lens and you are back in business! As they say, a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link and that weak link is the plastic mirror box compared to a lens with a metal mount. Worrying about the plastic mount of some Nikon lenses is just silly IMO, when the mount can be replaced cheaply and  easily if broken, while the plastic mirror box replacement will be a trip to Nikon repair and cost you almost as much as a new D5200 to fix it! So stop worrying so much, or just get a D800!

BTW, the 18-105mm is a very nice lens optically and has served me well in the  100 degree heat of Arizona and the freezing  cold of a  Pacific Northwest winter.

Here are some of my shots taken with the plastic fantastic 18-105mm Nikkor "kit"  lens:

- Jon

Jon, Thank you very much for your input. Perhaps I am indeed just over-worrying about it. Just curious though, you say its cheap to fix the plastic mount on the lens if it breaks, any idea how much that is off the top of your head?

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