Windows 8 shocker

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dradam Senior Member • Posts: 2,783
Re: You're making my point
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theswede wrote:

When trivial aspects of the operation of the system are broken that has tremendous impact on the usability of it. The trivial parts are the ones which have to work flawlessly for the system to become transparent to the user and stay out of the way. When they do not, but instead interfere with everyday operation they become a very big deal.

I'd be curious to hear which aspects of the operating system you feel are actually broken.  Meaning, what can you do in Windows 7 that you are now unable to do in Windows 8 (NOT things that you now have to do slightly differently).

dradam Senior Member • Posts: 2,783
Re: You're making my point
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1w12q312qw1 wrote:

ed,

I couldn't agree more. But calling out someone for an "elitist" attitude is not really a personal attack on his moral character or personal ethics. It is moreover a reaction to his "style" or "manner of speaking". Many doctors will talk "at" their patients and not "with" them and that habit is disconcerting to me and reflective of a "superior" attitude. I have no ill will towards anyone here and I will lighten up as soon as certain people stop talking down to everyone else here. It's the little catch-phrases that give a window into a person's heart and mind.

Stan

It's all in your head mate.

I AM surprised that some folks have such trouble doing things that seem rather obvious to me, and I AM confused when someone makes a statement about a feature that is factually just false (ie. Page break is no longer under "Insert" with the ribbon), and I do wonder at the apparent anger people feel towards a piece of software.

I would consider myself an above average computer user (no expert by any means) with very average demands for my computer usage.

You do keep bringing doctors into this for some reason, which confuses me.  Perhaps you are just really angry with your general practitioner.

theswede
theswede Veteran Member • Posts: 3,936
Re: Not intutive

"UI" (User Interface) is generally used to described software, not hardware. I use the term "touch UI" to refer to the "Metro"-style user interface, just as I use "desktop UI" to refer to the traditional Windows DWM (Desktop Window Manager) GUI interface.

"Touch" is a hardware characteristic. When you say "touch UI" I (and most likely everyone else) will read that as "the UI you use with your touch device". I have none, so I have no touch UI.

If you dislike Metro, call it Modern.

Swipes from the side are a standard touch UI technique, similar to right-clicking for a desktop UI.

Except they're not. The only thing side swipes are used for in the iOS applications I use are for side scrolling. I have no applications where side sweeps provide basic functionality.

No, they're not obvious for someone used to a desktop, but they're par for the course for mobile devices.   Anyone used to a touch UI who wasn't familiar with a particular mobile OS would try swipes from the side to see what they do.   I don't see that as a failing of Windows 8.

I wouldn't, unless the screen looks like it can scroll sideways. What other functions do side sweeps usually provide? Where is this supposedly standard use documented?

Jesper

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theswede Veteran Member • Posts: 3,936
Re: You're making my point

I'd be curious to hear which aspects of the operating system you feel are actually broken.  Meaning, what can you do in Windows 7 that you are now unable to do in Windows 8 (NOT things that you now have to do slightly differently).

What I can do in Windows 7 is work and support family and friends without the OS getting (all that much) in my way.

This is impossible in Windows 8 without using third party utilities and/or registry hacks.

Jesper

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Re: You're making my point
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theswede wrote:

When trivial aspects of the operation of the system are broken that has tremendous impact on the usability of it. The trivial parts are the ones which have to work flawlessly for the system to become transparent to the user and stay out of the way. When they do not, but instead interfere with everyday operation they become a very big deal.

Jesper

You should be aware that making over the top declarations can destroy your basic premise. For those of us that use Win 8 with minimal problems we cannot relate to your statements that trivial aspects of the program are broken and interfere with everyday operation. While this may be true for you it is not for others.

My interpretation of many of your comments cause me to believe you are unwilling to deal with changes in a constructive way.

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