Epson 3880 and 3rd party inks in UK

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Epson 3880 and 3rd party inks in UK
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Anyone using third party inks in an Epson 3880 in the UK please

If so, is this a  cis or refillable carts and from which supplier please.

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In reply to camerashy, Apr 28, 2013

Just for info I recently tried to change over my 4800 to Marrutt inks with disasterous results. I am partly changed over and the ink channels with the Epson carts in are just fine but I cannot get a clean nozzle check on the Marrutt ink channels without doing a power Clean and that only lasts 24 hours. Just thought I'd pass you that experience while you are shopping around.

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In reply to camerashy, Apr 29, 2013

PI would not recommend putting third party inks into a great printer that haves been designed to take specific Epson inks. Don't get me wrong, I think thevpricecif inks is prohibitive and we are held to ransom by canon and Epson with thir prices. But good printing is an art. Introducing an unknown as with OMs inks makes that art mre difficult and could not be worth it if you are after great, professional results. If you are not, then get the cheaper you can.

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Anyone using third party inks in an Epson 3880 in the UK please

If so, is this a  cis or refillable carts and from which supplier please.

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In reply to camerashy, Apr 29, 2013

Thanks for your help on this one.

I have heard about Marriott inks before and think I saw  some of your other comments about them so I do intend to stay well clear of them.....thanks.

Jules,, I'm probably aiming too high with this printer as Im only an amateur and OEM inks would be quite expensive so may consider the 3000 instead.

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camerashy wrote:  Thanks for your help on this one.  I have heard about Marriott inks before and think I saw  some of your other comments about them so I do intend to stay well clear of them.....thanks.  Jules,, I'm probably aiming too high with this printer as Im only an amateur and OEM inks would be quite expensive so may consider the 3000 instead.

Hi Dave.  Get in touch with Alex at http://www.inkexpress.co.uk for excellent compatible inks in UK - meaning refillable cartridges and inks - lists at present for the R3000 (you could enquire about the R3880 of course).  You would not be disappointed with the quality of the inks nor their stability on good papers.  I have said before that I would never use the Lyson inks but cannot put "why" into writing - some have certainly put their findings into print on this forum though!

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In reply to Zone8, Apr 29, 2013

Many Thanks, Brian, I have already emailed Alex asking for a price from him on this printer as it is not listed on their website and currently waiting for a reply.

I will certainly be buying from him next week when I return from holiday (Nerja) either the R3000 or the 3880 since I used their cis in my old 1400 and was really happy with it.

As  far as I can see only Fotospeed in the UK are doing refillable carts for the 3880 so if I went with their carts would still buy the ink from Alex

Im sure the sun is shining where you are, Brian, so have a nice day

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In reply to camerashy, Apr 29, 2013

Brian, unfortunately, ink express do not stock the 3880 or their consumables the biggest one they do is the 3000.

I think the 3880 uses the same ink type as the 3000   so will probably speak to Alex directly next week.

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camerashy wrote:  Thanks for your help on this one.  I have heard about Marriott inks before and think I saw  some of your other comments about them so I do intend to stay well clear of them.....thanks.  Jules,, I'm probably aiming too high with this printer as Im only an amateur and OEM inks would be quite expensive so may consider the 3000 instead.

Hi Dave.  Get in touch with Alex at http://www.inkexpress.co.uk for excellent compatible inks in UK - meaning refillable cartridges and inks - lists at present for the R3000 (you could enquire about the R3880 of course).  You would not be disappointed with the quality of the inks nor their stability on good papers.  I have said before that I would never use the Lyson inks but cannot put "why" into writing - some have certainly put their findings into print on this forum though!

My father used Lyson inks in one of his large format Espons (7500 I think).  The print quality seemed to be great actually - but they faded so quickly it was untrue - he ended up reprinting all the photos he had sold on that system as a matter of courtesy - one particular image I can think of ended up looking like a weird tinted monochrome in the end.

This was probably 4 or 5 years ago but it was bad enough that I wouldn't be trying them again personally unless I did it on a much smaller printer first and gave the prints a year to check the lightfastness.

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In reply to JamieTux, Apr 29, 2013

Brian, ink express only do A3+ printer....pity that.

so it's decision time for me do I go for a R3000 or a 3880.

I'm an amateur, print little and often, don't sell any prints and previously a 1400 owner.

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In reply to camerashy, Apr 29, 2013

Hi again Dave,

Sounds like best to go for the R3000 - Alex does pigmented inks and refillables for that:

http://www.inkexpress.co.uk/catalogue/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges/Epson/REFILL_SET_R3000/REFILL_SET_R3000.html#.UX5z7o1Bu9I

Hope you get sorted OK.  Fotospeed are pretty good but expensive.  Marrutt - avoid!

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In reply to Zone8, Apr 29, 2013

My big vote to inkexpress too.

Another great one is the CISS (not the refillable carts) but continuous ink system for R3000, Inkrepublic is making an excellent system for it. In my opinion, the CIS works better than refillable carts in R3000. Normally the old printer like R2400 is not very CIS friendly due to the tube traveling around, but the R3000 has easier design where one can place all the tubes on top of the printer and just station them there without moving anything. For the longterm usage and easier operation and reset, I think inkrepublic ciss is a much better choice.

http://www.inkrepublic.com/R3000.asp

The IRK4-nano inks are awesome! Either one, inkexpress or inkrepublic, you will get great products anyway.

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Hi again Dave,

Sounds like best to go for the R3000 - Alex does pigmented inks and refillables for that:

http://www.inkexpress.co.uk/catalogue/Refillable-Ink-Cartridges/Epson/REFILL_SET_R3000/REFILL_SET_R3000.html#.UX5z7o1Bu9I

Hope you get sorted OK.  Fotospeed are pretty good but expensive.  Marrutt - avoid!

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In reply to williamio, Apr 29, 2013

Thanks, Brian and William for your comments.

ordered the R3000 from Alex at ink express......they only do refillable carts for this printer as we know.

Looking forward to getting hands on and no doubt there will be more questions  flying from me.

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Apparently, with the R3000 I have the option of either refillable carts or a cis. Now I had a cis with my 1400 and was more than happy with it, easy to see the ink levels and fill. The 3000 has the advantage of having static cartridges with the cis.

I have read where constantly removing the refillable carts can cause wear on the contacts but presume this over a long period of time.

Im swaying towards the cis anyone have any experience on both  please.

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camerashy wrote:  Apparently, with the R3000 I have the option of either refillable carts or a cis. Now I had a cis with my 1400 and was more than happy with it, easy to see the ink levels and fill. The 3000 has the advantage of having static cartridges with the cis.  I have read where constantly removing the refillable carts can cause wear on the contacts but presume this over a long period of time.  Im swaying towards the cis anyone have any experience on both  please.

I have used a number of different CIS units over several years but all of the moving tubes variety.  In every case (Epson and Canon) I found it was the Magenta that had problems - no idea why but the ink flow always caused problems that appeared to be nozzle clogs but weren't.  So, I switched over to the (admittedly less convenient) refillables and have had no problems.  In my 1400, for example, the same refillables have been in use for about 4+ years without any problems either with the chips or the seals and same applies to the dye ink office all-in-one Epson DX7400.  I just refill all when one shows empty and reset the chips - that way only one clean takes place, instead of one for each cartridge change.  The CIS without moving bits sounds a superior method but as said, no problems for me even with a lot of cartridge refilling over several years.

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In reply to Zone8, Apr 30, 2013

Many thanks for your experience, I  will have a rethink and speak with Alex next week

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