Welcome to M43, Kodak

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Winston Loo Contributing Member • Posts: 681
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak
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AndyGM wrote:

The Kodak Stormtrooper 1. Nice. Presumably the suggested telephoto lens is for taking shots of things far, far away?

I'll stop now...

The telephoto lens morphs into a 4 ft long lightsaber.. the Kodak LS-1 14-1000mm

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David J Barber Regular Member • Posts: 478
They are after the Chinese market...politics

'China' is not happy with Japan and recent troubles have highlighted areas where Chinese people cannot buy a Chinese alternative to be "patriotic". After the last 'island' dispute, the Chinese walked past my building in their thousands, trashed local (Chinese owned) Japanese restaurants and business, overturned Japanese cars; the country followed up with a "Boycott Japanese goods" call across their internet. It was not pretty. All of this recorded by Japanese cameras.

One area which is dominated by their sworn enemy (When useful to the Chinese government) is cameras.

Whilst most of the Chinese brands are still in their infancy and, to a great degree, not trusted or bought by the wealthy in China, they are getting better. The potential market in China for a Chinese made camera is huge. That it may be good enough to be competitive in the external world markets is also worth investment.

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Just Having Fun Veteran Member • Posts: 3,869
Olympus, Panasonic, BlackMagic, Kodak...

It really is now a standard rather than a proprietary format.

Sony, Canon, Nikon would sue your pants off if you try to make a camera body that supports their system.

deleted_081301 Senior Member • Posts: 1,862
Re: I'm affraid that it is really just......

nekrosoft13 wrote:

Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

no, its not made by Olympus, but a new Chinesse company called something like JK Imaging or something like that. They bought the rights to use Kodak name.

JK Imaging  is an AMERICAN company all the Chinese are doing is making it  just as they do for Olympus

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Greynerd Senior Member • Posts: 5,647
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak

Do not forget these cameras are probably being targeted at a less sneery, less elitist market and probably with limited funds (the latter a concept E-M5 owners probably would not understand) but they might help m43 however much consternation is caused amongst real photographers.

If the word Kodak makes you grope for your smelling salts the camera is probably best ignored for your own peace of mind.

Winston Loo wrote:

AndyGM wrote:

The Kodak Stormtrooper 1. Nice. Presumably the suggested telephoto lens is for taking shots of things far, far away?

I'll stop now...

The telephoto lens morphs into a 4 ft long lightsaber.. the Kodak LS-1 14-1000mm

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tedolf
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Bingo......

DickyUK wrote:

nekrosoft13 wrote:

Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

no, its not made by Olympus, but a new Chinesse company called something like JK Imaging or something like that. They bought the rights to use Kodak name.

JK Imaging  is an AMERICAN company all the Chinese are doing is making it  just as they do for Olympus

Bingo.

And it is the same company.

And it was designed by Olympus.

Tedolph

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tedolf
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Take a close look......
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Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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blog: http://photographyandtravels.blogspot.co.uk/
flickr: http://ow.ly/eojki
K1000 -> A70 -> K100D -> GF1 -> E-M5
P 20mm + O 9-18mm + O 40-150mm + O 12-50mm

a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

at the filter size for the lens.

It is the old 14-42 in drag.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

Tedolph

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Chatokun
Chatokun Regular Member • Posts: 447
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak

AndyGM wrote:

The Kodak Stormtrooper 1. Nice. Presumably the suggested telephoto lens is for taking shots of things far, far away?

I'll stop now...

Let's hope it at least has better accuracy.

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micksh6
micksh6 Senior Member • Posts: 2,612
Re: Take a close look......

tedolf wrote:

Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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blog: http://photographyandtravels.blogspot.co.uk/
flickr: http://ow.ly/eojki
K1000 -> A70 -> K100D -> GF1 -> E-M5
P 20mm + O 9-18mm + O 40-150mm + O 12-50mm

a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

at the filter size for the lens.

It is the old 14-42 in drag.

Filter size is 37mm, same as new 14-42 has. It does look like old 14-42mm but it pulls out like the new one.

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and then there is unique aperture range - F3.7-5.3. If it stays in production unit we'll get the fastest kit zoom (at the long end).

2

There is a bit of mystery in JK Imaging. It may have something in common with General Electric, which also was a brand name for cameras

http://petapixel.com/2013/01/23/kodak-brand-license-holder-jk-imaging-shrouded-in-mystery/

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Dreeke Contributing Member • Posts: 775
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak
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s_grins wrote:

Probably, you did not read camera announcement carefully. This is not M43 camera, this is the camera with 4/3 sensor. I think you understand the difference.

If you look at the pictures you will see a mft logo to the lower left (the right hand side of the camera) of the lens.

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gandalfII Senior Member • Posts: 1,905
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak

Um uh, Kodak developed the 43 standard...

jimrpdx
jimrpdx Veteran Member • Posts: 3,318
Re: Welcome to M43? Kodak

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

Ironically Kodak in its old form was in the 4:3 consortium early on - I believe 'their' sensor was in the impressive Olympus E500.  I was so very close to buying one of those...

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n3eg
n3eg Senior Member • Posts: 1,521
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak
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Good to see the pictures.   When it comes out, I'll be comparing it to the E-PL5 and checking for important specs like:  where is the image stabilization, type of sensor, focus time, etc.  Hopefully the Oly connection means IBIS and not OIS.  On the negative side, I wouldn't expect it to exceed the features of any Oly camera in production.

The black one really looks like a Kodak.  I hope they make a black lens to go with it. The white one, however, looks like a bathroom accessory.  I'd expect it to come with a toothbrush and lens cleaning floss.

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Rens
Rens Senior Member • Posts: 1,507
How about the screen?

Does anyone know if it has a swivel or tilting screen?

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Revenant Junior Member • Posts: 49
Re: Welcome to M43, Kodak
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s_grins wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

Probably, you did not read camera announcement carefully. This is not M43 camera, this is the camera with 4/3 sensor. I think you understand the difference.

Anyway, I appreciate new evolving brand and new competitor.

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Looking for equilibrium...

This is indeed a m4/3 camera. JK Imaging (the official licensee of the Kodak brand) joined the m4/3 consortium some time ago, and they are listed as a supporting company on the official website. Also, the camera has the official m4/3 logo.

None of this is new, though. JK Imaging made an early announcement of this camera already last year.

Revenant Junior Member • Posts: 49
Re: Bingo......
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tedolf wrote:

DickyUK wrote:

nekrosoft13 wrote:

Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

-- hide signature --

blog: http://photographyandtravels.blogspot.co.uk/
flickr: http://ow.ly/eojki
K1000 -> A70 -> K100D -> GF1 -> E-M5
P 20mm + O 9-18mm + O 40-150mm + O 12-50mm

a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

no, its not made by Olympus, but a new Chinesse company called something like JK Imaging or something like that. They bought the rights to use Kodak name.

JK Imaging  is an AMERICAN company all the Chinese are doing is making it  just as they do for Olympus

Bingo.

And it is the same company.

And it was designed by Olympus.

Tedolph

JK Imaging is an American company, and they are the official licensee of the Kodak brand. The owner of the company also runs Jaacx Distributors, a Miami-based company that distributes consumer electronics products to Latin America. They have no resources to design and manufacture cameras or lenses themselves, so that is certainly outsourced to another company. The Taiwanese company Asia Optical has been mentioned as the manufacturer, which is a more likely candidate than Olympus.

The reason why the camera was pre-announced in China last year, and again announced in China recently, but not in America or Europe, seems to suggest that Asia is the intended main target market of this product.

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