Welcome to M43, Kodak

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Sergey Borachev
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Welcome to M43, Kodak
Apr 25, 2013

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

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Excellent

I'll keep an eye out for shiny new Kodak lenses. I bet they'll make some more affordable options.

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This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

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tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

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tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Oh come on! Even when KODAK was a monster corporation they used Canon and Nikon for many elements of their DSLRs. The list of companies that outsource part or all of their product is very long indeed!

Anyway, I welcome another name to the m4/3 table, it will only raise the profile and expand the choices available.

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Thorgrem wrote:

tedolf wrote:

ogremage wrote:

This is great news, I'm very glad to see another manufacturer with a recognized brand name join the system.

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a camera made by Olympus for Kodak.

So not really another manufacturer.

Kodak is now just a name like "Vivitar" or "Spiratone"  used to be.

They don't actually make anything.

Tedolph

Is it made by Olympus? The kitlens is not the same as the Olympus ones it seems.

A lot of company's don't actually make anything. Like Apple for example.

It's not a real Kodak but most people in this market segment don't know and tan Kodak is a familiar name. It can be a good thing for Olympus and Panasonic. More people to sell lenses.

no, its not made by Olympus, but a new Chinesse company called something like JK Imaging or something like that. They bought the rights to use Kodak name.

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The lens looks really ugly!

http://dcdv.zol.com.cn/368/3680754.html

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The president of the Taiwan-based Asia Optical said in an interview at P&E2013 in China that:

1. they have R&D facilities in Japan, Taiwan, and mainland China.

2. they will focus on the R&D and manufacturing of "higher end" Kodak cameras (like the S1?), large aperture lens, and ultra long telephoto lens. Their first telephoto lens would be available in 2014.

Well, something like that as I don't speak their language well!

So the S1 will not be exactly cheap, I suppose.

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Wow, the S1 looks like a camera straight out of Star Wars. It should be carried by a Stormtropper.

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Sergey Borachev wrote:

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

Kodak joined with Olympus to form the FourThirds sensor standard, so maybe saying 'welcome' for an offshoot of same sounds a bit strange?

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Well, the more the merrier, I guess.

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Over all if this gives more options that is a good thing.  I just hope they aren't the cheap looking cheap performing cheap quality Kodaks that were produced before.  Their consumer point and shoots were awful by and large IMHO.

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The Kodak Stormtrooper 1. Nice. Presumably the suggested telephoto lens is for taking shots of things far, far away?

I'll stop now...

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gmac68 wrote:

Over all if this gives more options that is a good thing.  I just hope they aren't the cheap looking cheap performing cheap quality Kodaks that were produced before.  Their consumer point and shoots were awful by and large IMHO.

There is a need to have cheaper options and therefore it is not entirely bad if this is a line of cheap M43 cameras.  They will catch the P&S upgraders and bring them into M43, where they can have a good continuous upgrade path to the OMD and GH3 etc.  This would also be good for M43, to increase the user base.  I think this is what will happen.

If OTOH, some better cameras than the usual Kodak compacts we have seen in recent years appear, that would also be good for competition within M43 and provide even more choices for us and for potential buyers coming from DSLRs etc.  I would suggest that the Chinese maker will look for niches in the beginning, e.g. a tough waterproof and small M43 camera.

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Sergey Borachev wrote:

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

Kodak joined with Olympus to form the FourThirds sensor standard, so maybe saying 'welcome' for an offshoot of same sounds a bit strange?

OK, I see. I welcome Kodak or its new owner to actually start making M43 cameras.

Fuji has also joined.  I would welcome Fuji to also make M43 cameras.

Casio?  Pentax/Ricoh, or Sigma too.  These companies have little chance of getting into or being successful in the mirrorless system market, a market which could become very significant in future, as the Stone Age mirror flapping cameras give way to ever more powerful, true digital cameras.  By joining M43, they can have an easy path and assured way to get a foot in, since all the lenses, the most difficult part of any such venture, are already there in M43.  And if more would start making M43 cameras and accessories, this could become BIG.  It could be similar to what happened to the PC industry in the 70s when some tiny "clone" companies like Compaq, AST, Gateway, ... started using the same data base, BIOS, DOS, memory boards...   and the rest was history and we quickly had standards, for power supplies, for ports, accessories and Presto!  affordable computers, and then a huge market and choices, innovation and even more affordable products.  IBM's monopoly was broken.

If more companies do this, they can break the current duopoly of Canikon too. Win-Win-Win. 

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Sergey Borachev wrote:

dinoSnake wrote:

Sergey Borachev wrote:

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

Kodak joined with Olympus to form the FourThirds sensor standard, so maybe saying 'welcome' for an offshoot of same sounds a bit strange?

OK, I see. I welcome Kodak or its new owner to actually start making M43 cameras.

Fuji has also joined.  I would welcome Fuji to also make M43 cameras.

Casio?  Pentax/Ricoh, or Sigma too.  These companies have little chance of getting into or being successful in the mirrorless system market, a market which could become very significant in future, as the Stone Age mirror flapping cameras give way to ever more powerful, true digital cameras.  By joining M43, they can have an easy path and assured way to get a foot in, since all the lenses, the most difficult part of any such venture, are already there in M43.  And if more would start making M43 cameras and accessories, this could become BIG.  It could be similar to what happened to the PC industry in the 70s when some tiny "clone" companies like Compaq, AST, Gateway, ... started using the same data base, BIOS, DOS, memory boards...   and the rest was history and we quickly had standards, for power supplies, for ports, accessories and Presto!  affordable computers, and then a huge market and choices, innovation and even more affordable products.  IBM's monopoly was broken.

If more companies do this, they can break the current duopoly of Canikon too. Win-Win-Win. 

Correction - the same data bus, like ISA, PCI...,  not data base.

IBM does not even make PCs, having sold it to off to a Chinese company as it becomes less and less competitive. Every family has more than a PC and they get continually upgraded, unlike in the 70s when a PC was like - What!  You have a computer at home?!

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Msnap wrote:

Excellent

I'll keep an eye out for shiny new Kodak lenses. I bet they'll make some more affordable options.

Lol... so we're going to expect the 7th 14-42 kit lens?
Seriously, why doesn't anyone focus on making affordable constant f4 or f2.8-4 stuff.

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Sergey Borachev wrote:

Lets hope this new Kodak S1 rumour is true.  Sony sensor.  Could it also have s sensor like the OMD one?  I don't think it can afford to get some brand new one designed for just this camera.   Release in Q3!

http://www.43rumors.com/new-pictures-of-the-kodak-s1-mft-camera/

This could be a very significant, strategically speaking, development, to have another maker of M43 cameras, after the recent Black Magic cinema camera announcement.  That will make M43 more attractive to independent lens makers and hopefully attract even more support from other hardware and software suppliers.  A universal mount standard is taking shape  

Probably, you did not read camera announcement carefully. This is not M43 camera, this is the camera with 4/3 sensor. I think you understand the difference.

Anyway, I appreciate new evolving brand and new competitor.

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In reply to Sergey Borachev, Apr 26, 2013

Huh, They leaked the storm trooper camera. Will it come with a white helmet that wireless connects to the body so we don't need a VF2 or VF3?

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